Houston gets Urban Gospel on 92.1

[Tim-In-Houston]

Re: Possible new call for 92.1?

It doens't look like Cox is going to change out the KLDE call letters either, they just bury them with the legal ID at around 50 minutes to the hour. Unless you listened closely to 107.5 you would never know it was not licensed to Houston as the TOH ID is Houston. I really wonder if KLDE's ID at the TOH is legal? Not that the FCC seems the least bit interested in legal ID's. I can't remember when I've read about the FCC nailing a station on the ID.

All the FCC requires is a station ID announcement sometime during every hour of the broadcast day. Most stations, for convience as it's a natural breaking point, choose the top of the hour to air it. I remember when AM/FM, Inc. owned KLDE (on 94.5) they aired the station ID at about ten minutes before the top of the hour with a simple "You're listening to KLDE-FM Houston, a service of AM/FM, Inc" or earlier "a Chancellor Communications Station" (it wasn't even Bobby Ocean giving the ID)," no musical interlude, nothing sung to the jingles package, and then they were right back into the music. I think they may have run a jingle-ID at the top of the hour as well, as a natural lead-in to the DJ's intro, but I don't remember exactly how it was worded.

 

[davideduardo]

Re: Possible new call for 92.1?

All the FCC requires is a station ID announcement sometime during every hour of the broadcast day. Most stations, for convience as it's a natural breaking point, choose the top of the hour to air it. I remember when AM/FM, Inc. owned KLDE (on 94.5) they aired the station ID at about ten minutes before the top of the hour with a simple "You're listening to KLDE-FM Houston, a service of AM/FM, Inc" or earlier "a Chancellor Communications Station" (it wasn't even Bobby Ocean giving the ID)," no musical interlude, nothing sung to the jingles package, and then they were right back into the music. I think they may have run a jingle-ID at the top of the hour as well, as a natural lead-in to the DJ's intro, but I don't remember exactly how it was worded.

It is a little more specific than that. The requirements are that a legal ID consisting of Calls and City of licnese be given as close to the top of the hour as possible in a natural break in programming. In other words, not anywhere in the hour, but near the top when there is natural break. Many stations streach this to mean "at the end of the last stopset" which is truly pusing it, but the FCC is not strict any more.

Stations may put the channel number or the licensee between calls and COL, but nothing else.

Years ago, the ID had to be within 2 minutes of the top of the hour, and the FCC fined staitons for violating this... and before that, the ID was within two minutes of the top AND the bottom of the hour.

 

[Bob E. Nelson]

Re: Possible new call for 92.1?

The requirements are that a legal ID consisting of Calls and City of licnese be given as close to the top of the hour as possible in a natural break in programming. In other words, not anywhere in the hour, but near the top when there is natural break. Many stations streach this to mean "at the end of the last stopset" which is truly pusing it, but the FCC is not strict any more.

Stations may put the channel number or the licensee between calls and COL, but nothing else.

What variations are (or were) allowed when doing an ID for an AM/FM combo, particularly when the complexity of dual (and differing) cities of license come into play? To wit, KVIL(AM) was Highland Park (TX) and KVIL-FM was Highland Park-Dallas. Would ``KVIL and KVIL-FM Highland Park-Dallas'' have fit a narrowly pedantic interpretation of the rule?

 

[Mediafrog+]

I've never really heard any fudging with stations doing a simulcast involving same calls, different COL's. Most were pretty good about keeping things separate.

Back in its 70's heyday, KVIL always had the air personality live announce the Legal IDs: "KVIL Highland Park KVIL-FM Highland Park-Dallas-Fort Worth."

 

[brian6969]

Is is me or is it Casey Casem doing the sweeper IDs on KLDE?

 

[davideduardo]

Re: Possible new call for 92.1?

What variations are (or were) allowed when doing an ID for an AM/FM combo, particularly when the complexity of dual (and differing) cities of license come into play? To wit, KVIL(AM) was Highland Park (TX) and KVIL-FM was Highland Park-Dallas. Would ``KVIL and KVIL-FM Highland Park-Dallas'' have fit a narrowly pedantic interpretation of the rule?

The ID rules are very specific. There is no such thing as a "narowly pedantic interpretation".

1. Each station must ID as close to the top of the hour as possible in a natural break in progrmming.
2. The ID must be the calls followed by the city of licence.
3. Only the owner or the frequency or the channel number may go in between, but nothing else.
4. You can add any other city after the city lof license.

That is it.

A simulcast IDs each station separately if the COLs are not identicial. If identical, one can say, KABC and KABC-FM, Los Angeles.

AM statins can not add "AM" after the calls. FMs use it if part of licensed calls. An ID of KFI-AM, Los Angeles is illegal because the suffix "-AM" is not assigned to any station. An ID of KLVE-FM Los Angeles is illegal because KLVE is an FM station, but the calls are KLVE, not KLVE-FM. Some FMs have a suffix, others do not.

It is just a rule. Nothing pedantic or narrow.

 

[hifidistortion]

Not my taste in music but I am listening to get the feel for the station. I agree that this is needed. Very positive, so far.....

BTW, is it me or did it have to take "divine intervention" to get a new, not spanish format in Houston....can I get a Amen?

 

[Mediafrog+]

Not my taste in music but I am listening to get the feel for the station. I agree that this is needed. Very positive, so far.....

I'm hearing some very positive reaction from the African-American community. Some have lived in other cities where the music was available 24/7. Now Houston has its own.

BTW, is it me or did it have to take "divine intervention" to get a new, not spanish format in Houston....can I get a Amen?

It took Radio One finally realizing the obvious and doing what they should have done in the first place when the station was purchased two years ago. La Mera Mera was a stand-alone format that simply didn't fit with RO's other Houston properties, and had no chance against bigger and smarter groups targeting Hispanics.

 

[ChuckTiller]

This brings to mind back in the early 1970s, when Leroy J. Gloger sold KIKK to Egmont Sonderling. Leroy sold because KIKK-AM 650 was a daytimer and KENR 1070 went 24 hours. He didn't realize the powerhouse he could have owned with KIKK-FM.

Sonderling's operations across the country were black American formats. KIKK got even stronger as a country station. The point is: just because the majority of the stations are black doesn't mean it cannot operate another format. Yes, I agree KROI should have gone the route they are going in the first place. Perhaps they felt they could pull it off and make a success. The problem was in the management.

 

[Kent]

The point is: just because the majority of the stations are black doesn't mean it cannot operate another format. Yes, I agree KROI should have gone the route they are going in the first place. Perhaps they felt they could pull it off and make a success. The problem was in the management.

I, and I think pretty much everyone else on the board, would agree with you that the biggest problem with KROI 92.1 was the management. What strikes me is that Radio One had previously made a big announcement that it was going to start launching hispanic-targetting stations, especially in the Spanish-language, because it was a minority targetting company, and it wanted to get ALL minorities rather than just African-Americans. The fastest growing minority was definitely an attractive audience. Shortly afterward, it launched La Mera Mera. It,however, never launched another Spanish-language station. It seems like the wheels just came off shortly after the journey began. Don't know if it was a matter of them not being able to get the stations they wanted or what, but it never happened. So, La Mera Mera sat and languished, probably wondering where its Spanish-language formatted sister stations, and the promise of support from corporate, went.

 

[smallermarket]

Re: Possible new call for 92.1?

really wonder if KLDE's ID at the TOH is legal? Not that the FCC seems the least bit interested in legal ID's. I can't remember when I've read about the FCC nailing a station on the ID.

Yes, it's legal. They could say K-Hits Houston, and be legal. In their case, the TOH isn't the legal ID. As long as between 10 til and 10 after you play "KLDE, Lake Jackson".

 

[ladyd]

Hello all.
New to the forum. I am very excited about the station. I was wondering when we were finally going to have an all gospel/inspirational radio station 24/7. We are a major city and it was quite refreshing to be able to listen to a 24/7 station like 92.1 Fm., just like cities such as the ATL. It is a welcomed change.

Ladyd

 

[sdh483]

is the website up yet?