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How a major broadcaster could acquire KDWN

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Persuade a court that Claire what's her name is no longer competent, based on KDWN's idiosyncratic programming, and have her committed. Force an auction and buy the station there for pennies on the ... uh, penny.
 
Here's my guess if a CC or Citadel etc. acquired the property:
A bunch of you would be whining about how that crazy old
KDWN lost it's flavor, after the lineup of all satellite
delivered shows debuts. Enjoy it, it doesn't hurt anyone.
It's 1950's MOR with no music. My favorite voice, the
cat that does all the sports betting spots for Stardust.



> Persuade a court that Claire what's her name is no longer
> competent, based on KDWN's idiosyncratic programming, and
> have her committed. Force an auction and buy the station
> there for pennies on the ... uh, penny.
>
 
My favorite voice, the
> cat that does all the sports betting spots for Stardust.
>

Is it a real deep voice? If so, you are thinking of Buzz Jones. He voices most of the Stardust spots. I believe he has been with KDWN for their entire 30 year history.




>
> > Persuade a court that Claire what's her name is no longer
> > competent, based on KDWN's idiosyncratic programming, and
> > have her committed. Force an auction and buy the station
> > there for pennies on the ... uh, penny.
> >
>
 
That's him.

> My favorite voice, the
> > cat that does all the sports betting spots for Stardust.
> >
>
> Is it a real deep voice? If so, you are thinking of Buzz
> Jones. He voices most of the Stardust spots. I believe he
> has been with KDWN for their entire 30 year history.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > > Persuade a court that Claire what's her name is no
> longer
> > > competent, based on KDWN's idiosyncratic programming,
> and
> > > have her committed. Force an auction and buy the station
>
> > > there for pennies on the ... uh, penny.
> > >
> >
>
 
> Here's my guess if a CC or Citadel etc. acquired the
> property:
> A bunch of you would be whining about how that crazy old
> KDWN lost it's flavor, after the lineup of all satellite
> delivered shows debuts. Enjoy it, it doesn't hurt anyone.
> It's 1950's MOR with no music. My favorite voice, the
> cat that does all the sports betting spots for Stardust.
>
>
> To be sure, much of KDWN wouldn't go away. I'm sure Stardust, the Truth About Nutrition, and other brokered shows and infomercials would find homes on smaller stations up the dial. Some of the local talent would go away, but given the senior status of some of them, that will happen in a few years in any case.
KDWN will have to re-invent itself sooner or later. Yes, it is a somewhat appealing anachronism, as I myself have pointed out.

What would be fun would be if some relative youngsters with stars in their eyes got hold behind the scenes and began sneaking their own vision on the air to create a talk station that has 1975 localism and charm but works in a 2005 universe. I saw this happen at some of the Florida talk stations that were older-demo-dominant in the 1980s. The arrival of the Limbaugh era and consolidation snuffed out that interesting possibility. Such a demographic underground movement might be the only way KDWN can survive in something resembling its current form.

But I doubt such a "velvet revolution" would get very far before Claire would smack it with a flyswatter. That being the case, a sale to a chain owner, while not being the best possible alternative, is probably better from the average listener's point of view than the current situation.

Finally, I have to wonder if some of those remedies being offered on KDWN are exactly harmless....
 
The three most memorable KDWN hosts were:

Charlie Scott-named the station after his daughter, programmed
it as an oldies/AC 1974-1977, had great ratings. In a dispute
with Williams he left and went on to be a well respected and
loved consultant and Operations Manager. Working with everyone
from Jerry Clifton to Larry King. He was the soul of KDWN.

Art Bell-Obvious reasons

Lee Pete-Pre-figured sports-talk byh 15 years and was far
more credible. His shows with Jim Brown were especially
good.


> > Here's my guess if a CC or Citadel etc. acquired the
> > property:
> > A bunch of you would be whining about how that crazy old
> > KDWN lost it's flavor, after the lineup of all satellite
> > delivered shows debuts. Enjoy it, it doesn't hurt anyone.
> > It's 1950's MOR with no music. My favorite voice, the
> > cat that does all the sports betting spots for Stardust.
> >
> >
> > To be sure, much of KDWN wouldn't go away. I'm sure
> Stardust, the Truth About Nutrition, and other brokered
> shows and infomercials would find homes on smaller stations
> up the dial. Some of the local talent would go away, but
> given the senior status of some of them, that will happen in
> a few years in any case.
> KDWN will have to re-invent itself sooner or later. Yes, it
> is a somewhat appealing anachronism, as I myself have
> pointed out.
>
> What would be fun would be if some relative youngsters with
> stars in their eyes got hold behind the scenes and began
> sneaking their own vision on the air to create a talk
> station that has 1975 localism and charm but works in a 2005
> universe. I saw this happen at some of the Florida talk
> stations that were older-demo-dominant in the 1980s. The
> arrival of the Limbaugh era and consolidation snuffed out
> that interesting possibility. Such a demographic underground
> movement might be the only way KDWN can survive in something
> resembling its current form.
>
> But I doubt such a "velvet revolution" would get very far
> before Claire would smack it with a flyswatter. That being
> the case, a sale to a chain owner, while not being the best
> possible alternative, is probably better from the average
> listener's point of view than the current situation.
>
> Finally, I have to wonder if some of those remedies being
> offered on KDWN are exactly harmless....
>
 
"But I doubt such a "velvet revolution" would get very far
before Claire would smack it with a flyswatter."---FloridaBear1776

I tried. And no, it didn't get very far.

On my first day at KDWN, I found a ramshackle old studio with 3 working cart decks. they had been trying to replace them for at least 6 months that I know of. On my second day, thanks to some dear radio buddies here in town, I delivered 6 cart machines, and a cart recorder deck. They never got wired in.

Running concurrently with that effort, I was able to convince Claire, over the strenuous objections of the several older members of the staff to become the local FOXNews Radio affiliate. (They were going to go with USA Network.) Only half the transponder channel was wired up....so no longform coverage of anything. I also came up with a deal to partner up with FOX-5 News here in town to do election 2004 coverage. (That's when I discovered the missing transponder channel.) So, Jim Dallas, (A real pro, by the way) and I did longform coverage of the most important election in recent history ourselves. (If you'd like an Mp3 of the promo I cut, send me an email.) KDOX is now the FOXNews Radio affiliate...through sheer apathy.

On the third day, I contacted Harris, and Broadcast Electronics about the equipment necessary for 2 new Audio Vault II control studios, and 2 production studios all networked together for 50K. On the fourth day, I put a complete proposal on Claire's desk, and asked for the authority to move forward. She said she'd get back to me. It's been 15 months....

No....KDWN is functioning exactly as it's management wants it to.

Jon-David Wells
Fearless Broadcaster
 
To be sure, much of KDWN wouldn't go away. I'm sure
> Stardust, the Truth About Nutrition, and other brokered
> shows and infomercials would find homes on smaller stations
> up the dial. Some of the local talent would go away, but
> given the senior status of some of them, that will happen in
> a few years in any case.
> KDWN will have to re-invent itself sooner or later. Yes, it
> is a somewhat appealing anachronism, as I myself have
> pointed out.
>
> What would be fun would be if some relative youngsters with
> stars in their eyes got hold behind the scenes and began
> sneaking their own vision on the air to create a talk
> station that has 1975 localism and charm but works in a 2005
> universe. I saw this happen at some of the Florida talk
> stations that were older-demo-dominant in the 1980s. The
> arrival of the Limbaugh era and consolidation snuffed out
> that interesting possibility. Such a demographic underground
> movement might be the only way KDWN can survive in something
> resembling its current form.

Interesting idea - would you have any suggested hosts - for example, *perhaps* Hart Kirch, Doug Basham, Jeff Burke, Ken Landow? Is Ernie Brown still in the Vegas area? Could Art Bell do a local show with Whitley Streiber? How about moving Ed Schultz from 5kW 970 KNUU (who only has 2 of the 3 hours) to 50kW KDWN? What would work overnights?
 
> Interesting idea - would you have any suggested hosts - for
> example, *perhaps* Hart Kirch, Doug Basham, Jeff Burke, Ken
> Landow? Is Ernie Brown still in the Vegas area? Could Art
> Bell do a local show with Whitley Streiber? How about
> moving Ed Schultz from 5kW 970 KNUU (who only has 2 of the 3
> hours) to 50kW KDWN? What would work overnights?

It would not be liberal nor the same local rubbish. Top local (some imported) talent and top national hosts. Art Bell, in his last throes, has no need to do a local show for anyone. No one knows who Whitley Striber is outside of radio. Ed Schultz will stay put; if 970 could have made more selling commercials than throwing up paid financial shows at noon, he'd still be in primetime. Local overnights, a la KABC.
 
No one knows who Whitley Striber is outside of
> radio.


HI - FYI - KJCB - Whitley Streiber and his wife Anne Streiber are both very active in alternative talk radio including both mainstream science topics and the paranormal on the IBC radio networks and by subscriptions to their MP-3 archives.
 
> HI - FYI - KJCB - Whitley Streiber and his wife Anne
> Streiber are both very active in alternative talk radio
> including both mainstream science topics and the paranormal
> on the IBC radio networks and by subscriptions to their MP-3
> archives.

My point exactly. I work in radio, and if I had a life, even I would have never heard of IBC. Alternative talk radio is just that - alternative. How's "Alternative Talk" KKNW/Seattle doing in the ratings these days?
 
"IBC" alleged radio "network"

> > HI - FYI - KJCB - Whitley Streiber and his wife Anne
> > Streiber are both very active in alternative talk radio
> > including both mainstream science topics and the
> paranormal
> > on the IBC radio networks and by subscriptions to their
> MP-3
> > archives.
>
> My point exactly. I work in radio, and if I had a life, even
> I would have never heard of IBC. Alternative talk radio is
> just that - alternative. How's "Alternative Talk"
> KKNW/Seattle doing in the ratings these days?
>

IBC has exactly four over the air affiliates, according to their own press releases. THREE OF WHICH are in the same market-- Sarasota/Bradenton FL, although they claim the Bradenton station as a Tampa affiliate because it pushes a weak signal up the bay. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by FloridaBear1776 on 11/13/05 12:30 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: "IBC" alleged radio "network"

If you want to beat up networks there are plenty of 2nd
& third tier talk networks to pick on besides IBC (do
they also make that good Root Beer?) The point is Whitney
Streiber is not a "radio guy". He's way out, a true
believer & actually an author on abductions. Which I
think a couple of you, are likely abductees. No you
just don't have lives.



> > HI - FYI - KJCB - Whitley Streiber and his wife Anne
> > > Streiber are both very active in alternative talk radio
> > > including both mainstream science topics and the
> > paranormal
> > > on the IBC radio networks and by subscriptions to their
> > MP-3
> > > archives.
> >
> > My point exactly. I work in radio, and if I had a life,
> even
> > I would have never heard of IBC. Alternative talk radio is
>
> > just that - alternative. How's "Alternative Talk"
> > KKNW/Seattle doing in the ratings these days?
> >
>
> IBC has exactly four over the air affiliates, according to
> their own press releases. THREE OF WHICH are in the same
> market-- Sarasota/Bradenton FL, although they claim the
> Bradenton station as a Tampa affiliate because it pushes a
> weak signal up the bay.
>
 
"IBC"

> If you want to beat up networks there are plenty of 2nd
> & third tier talk networks to pick on besides IBC (do
> they also make that good Root Beer?)

Collins, you must try Henry Weinhardt's Root Beer in the bottle, incredible!
 
Re: If a major broadcaster acquired KDWN

If Buckley Radio owned KDWN you would not be allowed to say a word about KDWN without your post being pulled. every post on this subject would have been pulled already. As is the case with Buckley Radio Bakersfield.
Any critique of Buckley Radio gets pulled. I know it sounds like a double standard because it is.
I have listened to KDWN since it signed on, You have to admit there is only one KDWN. In a class by itself. It's like KZIQ Ridgecrest Ca deadlocked in 1975.
You can view censored post here www.radiobrandy.com/NewsUpdate.html

Steve
Radio Brandy

> Persuade a court that Claire what's her name is no longer
> competent, based on KDWN's idiosyncratic programming, and
> have her committed. Force an auction and buy the station
> there for pennies on the ... uh, penny.
>
 
Re: If a major broadcaster acquired KDWN

Brandy: What is the Buckley connection?
to Radio-Info? Real curious.


> If Buckley Radio owned KDWN you would not be allowed to say
> a word about KDWN without your post being pulled. every post
> on this subject would have been pulled already. As is the
> case with Buckley Radio Bakersfield.
> Any critique of Buckley Radio gets pulled. I know it sounds
> like a double standard because it is.
> I have listened to KDWN since it signed on, You have to
> admit there is only one KDWN. In a class by itself. It's
> like KZIQ Ridgecrest Ca deadlocked in 1975.
> You can view censored post here
> www.radiobrandy.com/NewsUpdate.html
>
> Steve
> Radio Brandy
>
> > Persuade a court that Claire what's her name is no longer
> > competent, based on KDWN's idiosyncratic programming, and
> > have her committed. Force an auction and buy the station
> > there for pennies on the ... uh, penny.
> >
>
 
But how many second-tier networks admit to sending out press releases with fabricated quotes?

See the Orlando board for more info.
 
Re: If a major broadcaster acquired KDWN

> Brandy: What is the Buckley connection?
> to Radio-Info? Real curious.
Consulting and other financial reasons have everything to do with it, KDWN takes a beating on this board along with its staff regularly yet no post are pulled. I have seen a number of posts critical of Buckley Radio pulled.
I work in broadcasting in the High Desert of California where we can listen to Buckley Radio’s KNZR; I can tell you Radio Brandy is dead on with its critique of Buckley Radio. A perfect example of their running day old newscast: A major event in Mojave on a Monday last week did not make it to their news until Thursday. From hum during commercial breaks to dead air for up to 20 minutes at a time, it’s sloppy radio pure and simple.

Rich
HDR
 
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