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How about an old school hip hop station on 105.1?

hotpatrick2004

hotpatrick2004

That is a format that has never been tried here and it seems to be the flavor of the month right now around the country so why not? I would love it a tribe called quest whodini LL cool J etc... hey I need love lol Couldn't hurt. I would much rather have an awesomely awesome alternative station. Something inbetween the fox and wfpk like I hearts alt station in los angeles alt 98.7 but that's just me but I do enjoy me some old school hip hop.


What you guys and gals think?

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hotpatrick2004 said:
That is a format that has never been tried here and it seems to be the flavor of the month right now around the country so why not? I would love it a tribe called quest whodini LL cool J etc... hey I need love lol Couldn't hurt. I would much rather have an awesomely awesome alternative station. Something inbetween the fox and wfpk like I hearts alt station in los angeles alt 98.7 but that's just me but I do enjoy me some old school hip hop.


What you guys and gals think?



Later
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I think that would be a good idea for 100.5 not 105.1. MYfm isn't doing anything for CC or IHeartMedia or whatever they are now and they are the ones starting the format in most of the markets where it is now.
 
Old school hip hop is going to happen here sooner or later, the format is spreading too fast for it to NOT happen. I don't know about 105.1 though. I could see Magic 101.3 heading in this direction... I know that they are pulling decent numbers, but from what I've seen, many of these old school hip hop stations are replacing the urban ACs, including some that are top-rated stations in their markets. I think that urban AC is suffering from the same problem that soft rock has been suffering in recent years, it just isn't appealing to young audiences. I mean, just take a listen to Magic 101.3... it is hard to even tell who they're trying to market to, I don't know many people who particularly enjoy listening to Zapp and Roger (I heard "Computer Love" on there the other day, amazingly) and Sam Smith... back to back. But you'll hear just that on 101.3. The question is, though, will old school hip hop be a lasting format?

Let's not forget, though, that iHeartMedia has NOT started getting all of the translators up and running around here. In fact, we've pretty much been translator free (unlike many cities), but there are construction permits floating out there for these right now, and iHeartMedia has at least one for WTFX. I would imagine that 93.3 (or whatever the translator frequency was) is going to be a simulcast of something that'll be on the WTFX-HD2. I think that is alternative right now (in fact, I think it is very similar to Alt 98.7, and I could see them possibly trying that here at some point as well particularly since Fox is less alternative sounding lately), but what they do when they're trying to market a whole separate radio station as something "new" is anybody's guess... I'd put good money on either alternative or old school hip hop though.
 
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Old school hip hop is going to happen here sooner or later, the format is spreading too fast for it to NOT happen. I don't know about 105.1 though. I could see Magic 101.3 heading in this direction... I know that they are pulling decent numbers, but from what I've seen, many of these old school hip hop stations are replacing the urban ACs, including some that are top-rated stations in their markets. I think that urban AC is suffering from the same problem that soft rock has been suffering in recent years, it just isn't appealing to young audiences. I mean, just take a listen to Magic 101.3... it is hard to even tell who they're trying to market to, I don't know many people who particularly enjoy listening to Zapp and Roger (I heard "Computer Love" on there the other day, amazingly) and Sam Smith... back to back. But you'll hear just that on 101.3. The question is, though, will old school hip hop be a lasting format?

Let's not forget, though, that iHeartMedia has NOT started getting all of the translators up and running around here. In fact, we've pretty much been translator free (unlike many cities), but there are construction permits floating out there for these right now, and iHeartMedia has at least one for WTFX. I would imagine that 93.3 (or whatever the translator frequency was) is going to be a simulcast of something that'll be on the WTFX-HD2. I think that is alternative right now (in fact, I think it is very similar to Alt 98.7, and I could see them possibly trying that here at some point as well particularly since Fox is less alternative sounding lately), but what they do when they're trying to market a whole separate radio station as something "new" is anybody's guess... I'd put good money on either alternative or old school hip hop though.
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I looked on Radio Locator and WLGX is supposed to be simulcasting on translators at 95.1 and 97.9 but I have not heard those stations.Maybe iHeartMedia can use those for a new format?
 
It is funny that you mentioned this, I was about to make a posting about translators. 97.9 is oddly enough K-LOVE... has been for a while (I don't know how long). You've got to be in the right spot to hear it, but I'm actually tuned into it right now out of sheer curiosity. It's definitely there. I think 95.1 is as well. I don't understand these translators very well, though, maybe somebody can enlighten me on them.

Here are construction permits for some others around here... I bet if I searched deep enough, I could find a translator for WAMZ and/or WQMF somewhere.

W288DA - Clear Channel owns this one, the application says that it will translate WNRW on 105.5 FM from Woodland Hills (i.e. just outside of J-Town), coverage seems to be exclusively east of I-65 (though the coverage comes a little short of everything east of I-65, such as the hospital zone downtown, Germantown, and about half of the Highlands)

W228CY - Owned by Charles M. Anderson, but will supposedly translate WTFX on 93.3 FM from Fairdale, coverage area seems to hit everything between Dixie Highway and Bardstown Road, but it seems that the coverage area cuts off slightly before hitting Eastern Parkway going toward the river.

W261CO - W&B Broadcasting, the one that seems to have the most speculation around here, and it is said to translate WTUV on 100.1. Unlike the other ones, this one has very good coverage in the heart of downtown as well as pretty much everything in Louisville inside the 264 corridor, also makes it into Jeffersonville, Clarksville, and even New Albany.
 
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So I tolerated the Jesus-fest for a solid half hour for a station identification, they definitely do say "WLGX HD-2" on them. Which I guess that is what is on WLGX HD-2, not that anybody would know because what is happening on HD radio is a complete mystery to most people... unless it is on iHeartRadio or a translator (personally I've never seen/used a HD radio).
 
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So I tolerated the Jesus-fest for a solid half hour for a station identification, they definitely do say "WLGX HD-2" on them. Which I guess that is what is on WLGX HD-2, not that anybody would know because what is happening on HD radio is a complete mystery to most people... unless it is on iHeartRadio or a translator (personally I've never seen/used a HD radio).
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I heard the ID too. I live in Okolona and could only pick up 95.1 I guess because they say WLGX that Radio-Locator thinks that they translate 100.5.
 
That's odd, according to their coverage map, 97.9 should be better for you:

95.1: http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=W236AN&service=FX&status=L&hours=U
97.9: http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=W250BD&service=FX&status=L&hours=U

I live close to Cherokee Park, and those maps seem to suggest 95.1 should be a little better for me. It comes in but isn't very clear. 97.9, on the other hand, has a great signal, even on my cheap AM/FM clock radio.

I did a little research and it looks like K-LOVE has been broadcasting on these frequencies for almost three years! I encountered it back around late summer but assumed they were just distant signals of actual K-LOVE stations from elsewhere. I can't imagine that anybody listens to it. We've got countless Christian stations and WAY-FM that get a TON of promotion around here and still come in last place, I don't see any possible way that anybody listens to unadvertised translators that even managed to slip past people on these forums for three years.

I have a feeling there is something more to this WLGX relationship, though. EMF owns a lot of these translators, but they've also been leasing and selling them to anybody who wants them. It's like they have this desire to own them, but don't really care about keeping them. I'm wondering if there is a plan to ultimately lease these to iHeartMedia for them to create their own content.
 
This may be showing my lack of knowledge about the laws and loopholes of translators once again, but here is something else that I don't understand about K-LOVE... EMF does have a class B station on 91.5 FM in Seymour, IN on which they broadcast K-LOVE, and that signal even (barely) makes it into full coverage over all of Louisville. So why is it necessary for them to use WGLX HD-2 to broadcast on 95.1 and 97.9? Is there some reason why they can't just use 91.5 for this?
 
Looks like ol' sdskees really has a thing about those mean ol' Christian music stations.

Yeah. Gimme a radio station playing songs about misogyny, rape and getting crunk any day.

"I had to back up off of it and sit my cup down
Tanqueray and chronic, yeah, I'm f***** up now
But it ain't no stoppin', I'm still poppin'
Dre got some b****** from the city of Compton."

I'll never get tired of hearing Snoop Dog on the radio.
 
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This may be showing my lack of knowledge about the laws and loopholes of translators once again, but here is something else that I don't understand about K-LOVE... EMF does have a class B station on 91.5 FM in Seymour, IN on which they broadcast K-LOVE, and that signal even (barely) makes it into full coverage over all of Louisville. So why is it necessary for them to use WGLX HD-2 to broadcast on 95.1 and 97.9? Is there some reason why they can't just use 91.5 for this?
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Because legally a translator can't extend the theoretical 60 DBU contour of the station it is translating. The 60 DBU contour of a class B station goes about 30 miles if I recall correctly, so the Seymour station's 60 DBU only makes it to maybe Henryville. So they have a deal with iHeart, presumably pay them a monthly fee or wahtever for the HD2 signal, and then they can locate an analog translator within the 60 DBU coverage of WLGX, which covers all of Louisville.

They get 250 watts at 255 feet on 97.9.... that's pretty good! And they get 200 watts at 591 feet on 95.1...that's even better! (Though the location of 97.9 trumps 95.1)


Back to the original question: Alpha won't put urban on 105.1 because Alpha owns the other urban stations already. Another urban would make the ratings of their other two go down.
 
I'm starting to believe that this format isn't exactly a real or lasting thing. Two stations that have supposedly switched to this have backed down, both claiming it was just "stunting." One of them was a Cox station that went to the format just over a week ago and the other was a Cumulus station that apparently stunted for a few months (if that is even possible).
 
It is interesting to note that Cincinnati got a "Beat" just a few days ago, and it was placed on a translator of WEBN that is owned by EMF and (up until recently) carried K-LOVE. This is why I think that these EMF translators that have popped up around here could end up with something that isn't programmed by EMF... old school hip hop seems like a good candidate. And I think that the old school hip hop is enough of a fringe format (at least for a city like Louisville) that it would make more sense to put it on a translator than to have it as the main feed on a class C station like 100.5, although it would still do better than the awful format airing there right now.
 
.... And they will call it My Icons. Sorry, I was playing it off on the icon stations here in Lexington. ;)
 
The K-LOVE translator on 97.9 has been broadcasting dead air for over a week now... for whatever reason, I was picking a very clear signal from WSIX in Nashville (isn't that a little far away to be coming in for Louisville, particularly on a cheap clock radio that can't even pick up many local signals?) on that frequency on the 23rd or 24th... it actually sounded good enough to be a local signal. Then a few hours later there was nothing but some scrambled signal, though it has been completely silent dead air from time to time. It has been that way ever since.

The 95.1 translator is still fine.
 
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I was picking a very clear signal from WSIX in Nashville (isn't that a little far away to be coming in for Louisville, particularly on a cheap clock radio that can't even pick up many local signals?)
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Normally, yes. But WSIX has a killer signal. Not totally unheard of to get one of the Nashville FM powerhouses around here for short periods.
 
sdskees said:
The K-LOVE translator on 97.9 has been broadcasting dead air for over a week now... for whatever reason, I was picking a very clear signal from WSIX in Nashville (isn't that a little far away to be coming in for Louisville, particularly on a cheap clock radio that can't even pick up many local signals?) on that frequency on the 23rd or 24th... it actually sounded good enough to be a local signal. Then a few hours later there was nothing but some scrambled signal, though it has been completely silent dead air from time to time. It has been that way ever since.

The 95.1 translator is still fine.
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I was scanning the FM dial tonight and 97.9 is loud and clear.I never could get it before here in Okolona.Like I posted before I could only get 95.1
97.9 sounds as good as many of the local stations.Maybe IHeartMedia has plans for the translators instead of airing K Love on them?
 
97.9 popped back on the air around Thursday or so. They actually went completely off the air for a day or two and I was even able to (almost) pick up WSLM out of Salem, IN, but they seem to be back up and running now. They were off for two weeks, and honestly I thought that might have been setting the stage for them to do something... but K-LOVE is back.

97.9 does sound really good, and I've been able to pick them up in all parts of the city. I have a feeling that we WILL be hearing something from iHeartMedia on 97.9 (and possibly 95.1) in the future. EMF owns those translators, but if you look at other markets, there are many translators owned by EMF that are being leased by iHeartMedia... and most of these tend to start out as K-LOVE or Air1 stations that are translators of HD2 feeds of iHeartMedia stations.
 
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