I just visited the thread about the oldest VHF tapes, aknd I got to thinking about the days when I was young. Very young. When I was 8 years old, that was in 1960, my dad bought for me a Pentron reel to reel tape recorder. I new, because my dad new about electronics and audio equipment, how to hook my recorder up directly to our TV's amp. I recorded all these programs from my local Detroit stations with their, promos, IDs and whole newscasts and the like. The bad news is, I don't have a single one now. The tapes either got broken, reused later, or just plain discarded. Does anyone on this board collect old kinies, (not the ones professionally available, like the DVDs from Millcreak, but the real thing, or audio tape as I had from about 1960 to about 1965. I did come across an old clip of a dr. Morgus and the weather program on WJBK channel 2 that I still have.
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How about the oldest TV broadcast in any format
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Michael:
A Buddy of mine, Jerry Immel, who does TV voieceover work in Atlanta, is a Cleveland, Ohio area native. When he was a kid he did as you describe..Hooking a recorder directly to an amplifier..He recorded a lot of KYW-TV and WNBK station ID's and sign-offs, a few commercials, and a full half hour live WEWS Channel 5 music show from DJ/music promoter Bill Randle..All from 1955-56..He has other clips recorded in the same way from TV stations on the East Coast, as well as many radio clips from the same era..
Another person recorded 5 and a half hours (9AM-2:30PM) straight through from WEWS-TV 5 on Friday May 24, 1963 Including commercials and promos..Included was a Live Romper Room show, Seven Keys, and an early General Hospital episode. This was simply a recorder up to a tv speaker..
Someone else I know audio taped portions of the last Eyewitness News Friday June 18, 1965 Including Dick Goddard Weather from KYW-TV 3 Cleveland as the next morning they became WKYC-TV and Goddard was to start in Philadelphia at KYW-TV the following Monday..
Much of this is on my YouTube Page..
http://www.youtube.com/user/TimL2005?feature=mhee
A Buddy of mine, Jerry Immel, who does TV voieceover work in Atlanta, is a Cleveland, Ohio area native. When he was a kid he did as you describe..Hooking a recorder directly to an amplifier..He recorded a lot of KYW-TV and WNBK station ID's and sign-offs, a few commercials, and a full half hour live WEWS Channel 5 music show from DJ/music promoter Bill Randle..All from 1955-56..He has other clips recorded in the same way from TV stations on the East Coast, as well as many radio clips from the same era..
Another person recorded 5 and a half hours (9AM-2:30PM) straight through from WEWS-TV 5 on Friday May 24, 1963 Including commercials and promos..Included was a Live Romper Room show, Seven Keys, and an early General Hospital episode. This was simply a recorder up to a tv speaker..
Someone else I know audio taped portions of the last Eyewitness News Friday June 18, 1965 Including Dick Goddard Weather from KYW-TV 3 Cleveland as the next morning they became WKYC-TV and Goddard was to start in Philadelphia at KYW-TV the following Monday..
Much of this is on my YouTube Page..
http://www.youtube.com/user/TimL2005?feature=mhee
My father set up a reel-to-reel deck to capture a broadcast of Leonard Bernstein's Young Peoples' Concert in March 1958. I've digitized the tape since, and it includes a nice mid-show promo for that evening's Ed Sullivan show on (note emphasis) the CBS *Television* Network. (Fortunately, the random door buzzer that set the dog barking in the middle of the broadcast concluded before the promo aired. No loss - the show's now out on DVD.)
Does anyone have an idea of what they posted onscreen on WCBS-TV in 1958 during this sort of promo? It'd be nice to synthesize some video for the audio...
Does anyone have an idea of what they posted onscreen on WCBS-TV in 1958 during this sort of promo? It'd be nice to synthesize some video for the audio...
http://www.apts.org.uk/recording.htm
The link describes a recording of BBC-TV made in 1938. (they've digitized the recording, you can watch it online)
Not only is the recording 73 years old, but it was made in New York, which was obviously a LONG way from the BBC transmitter!
The link describes a recording of BBC-TV made in 1938. (they've digitized the recording, you can watch it online)
Not only is the recording 73 years old, but it was made in New York, which was obviously a LONG way from the BBC transmitter!
OK, if you count kinescopes or anything similar, is there anything even older than the BBC recording?
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"OK, if you count kinescopes or anything similar, is there anything even older than the BBC recording?"
Doubt it.
Kinescoping was actually a post-World War II development, and while there may have been a few earlier lab experiments from the early days of the NTSC system, it didn't come into use at the network or top-5 market level until 1947, and the next year in most other markets that had TV stations operating. There were a few people trying to film the video portion of television before that, as far back as the late 1930s, using cameras and projectors speeded up from the 24 frame a second film standard to the 30 frames a second that was becoming the TV standard in the late 30s. But none of the surviving ones (and there are a few from W2XBS, the predecessor of WNBC-TV) include sound. If someone DID successfully put a sound track on any of those pre-war shows, they did something unique on two levels; 1)create a synchronous-sound TV video and audio aircheck years before the first known one, and 2)anticipate the invention of the kinescope system that became the norm for off-air recording and time shifting shows in the late 40s through the late 50s. No such film has yet come to light. After 70+ years, none probably will, although you never know...someone had to be the first to try it out in a back room of the lab, and maybe it wasn't thrown out, just stuck in a closet somewhere...
Doubt it.
Kinescoping was actually a post-World War II development, and while there may have been a few earlier lab experiments from the early days of the NTSC system, it didn't come into use at the network or top-5 market level until 1947, and the next year in most other markets that had TV stations operating. There were a few people trying to film the video portion of television before that, as far back as the late 1930s, using cameras and projectors speeded up from the 24 frame a second film standard to the 30 frames a second that was becoming the TV standard in the late 30s. But none of the surviving ones (and there are a few from W2XBS, the predecessor of WNBC-TV) include sound. If someone DID successfully put a sound track on any of those pre-war shows, they did something unique on two levels; 1)create a synchronous-sound TV video and audio aircheck years before the first known one, and 2)anticipate the invention of the kinescope system that became the norm for off-air recording and time shifting shows in the late 40s through the late 50s. No such film has yet come to light. After 70+ years, none probably will, although you never know...someone had to be the first to try it out in a back room of the lab, and maybe it wasn't thrown out, just stuck in a closet somewhere...
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