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How can I see the national feed of "i"?

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PaulKTF

I have Time Warner Cable. They show our local "i" affiliate (WPXE) which airs the infomercials. The national "i" feed (that shows public domain movies/shows) isn't on the digital cable so I have no access to it. :(

Does anyone reading this have cable, have a local "i" affiliate; and also get the national feed of "i" in addition (or instead of) the local feed? I wish they'd pick up that national feed and air it somewhere on the digitial channels...<P ID="signature">______________
-Paul</P>
 
> I have Time Warner Cable. They show our local "i" affiliate
> (WPXE) which airs the infomercials. The national "i" feed
> (that shows public domain movies/shows) isn't on the digital
> cable so I have no access to it. :(
>
> Does anyone reading this have cable, have a local "i"
> affiliate; and also get the national feed of "i" in addition
> (or instead of) the local feed? I wish they'd pick up that
> national feed and air it somewhere on the digitial
> channels...
>

I think the national "i" feed is available only on DirectTV and Dish network. I'm surprised that this feed isn't blacked out in areas that have an "i" affiliate...the local stations need all the viewers they can get.
Also, I checked and the national feed also has nothing but infomercials and religious programming all day until 5pm central, and home shopping in the overnight hours.
 
> I have Time Warner Cable. They show our local "i" affiliate
> (WPXE) which airs the infomercials. The national "i" feed
> (that shows public domain movies/shows) isn't on the digital
> cable so I have no access to it. :(
>
> Does anyone reading this have cable, have a local "i"
> affiliate; and also get the national feed of "i" in addition
> (or instead of) the local feed? I wish they'd pick up that
> national feed and air it somewhere on the digitial
> channels...

If you're able to receive off-air broadcast signals, the "i" feed that contains all those public domain movies & TV shows instead of infomercials is available using a digital tuner. For example, locally (Dallas-Fort Worth), we get the following on the digital i/Pax stations:
68-1 Standard broadcast feed, with 18 hours/day of informercials
68-2 National feed, with lots of old movies & TV shows
68-3 Worship Network
From what I understand, they're doing this in many of the markets where they have a digital broadcast channel.
 
> I think the national "i" feed is available only on DirectTV
> and Dish network. I'm surprised that this feed isn't blacked
> out in areas that have an "i" affiliate...the local stations
> need all the viewers they can get.
> Also, I checked and the national feed also has nothing but
> infomercials and religious programming all day until 5pm
> central, and home shopping in the overnight hours.

Really? That's interesting. Somebody in another "i" thread said that they saw public domain movies/TV shows (which I'd much rather see than infomercials!) :) <P ID="signature">______________
-Paul</P>
 
> Really? That's interesting. Somebody in another "i" thread
> said that they saw public domain movies/TV shows (which I'd
> much rather see than infomercials!) :)
>

Apparently there is another feed that shows these...I hadn't read the other threads yet. :)
 
> I'm surprised that this feed isn't blacked out in areas that have an "i"
> affiliate...the local stations need all the viewers they can get.

It looks to me like Paxson is taking the same approach as Univision/Telefutura, Telemundo (to a degree) and others in making a deal with dish and DirecTV that allows unrestricted national clearance of its main network feed on DBS in lieu of requiring carriage of all those O&Os.
 
> It looks to me like Paxson is taking the same approach as
> Univision/Telefutura, Telemundo (to a degree) and others in
> making a deal with dish and DirecTV that allows unrestricted
> national clearance of its main network feed on DBS in lieu
> of requiring carriage of all those O&Os.

That certainly comes as a surprise to those of us in Los Angeles with DirecTV who get both the Pax national feed <u>and</u> KPXN.<P ID="signature">______________


</P>
 
> > Really? That's interesting. Somebody in another "i" thread
>
> > said that they saw public domain movies/TV shows (which
> I'd
> > much rather see than infomercials!) :)
> >
>
> Apparently there is another feed that shows these...I hadn't
> read the other threads yet. :)

There are two "national" feeds of "i". One, which I call the "affiliate" feed, has the daytime infomercials and overnight home shopping. (This is apparently the feed for the "i" stations, and is also the feed carried on Dish and DirecTV.) The other feed, which I call the "cable" feed, is the one that is on cable systems outside the range of affiliated stations (and is apparently also carried on the second digital stream on the O&Os).<P ID="signature">______________


</P>
 
> Does anyone reading this have cable, have a local "i"
> affiliate; and also get the national feed of "i" in addition
> (or instead of) the local feed? I wish they'd pick up that
> national feed and air it somewhere on the digitial
> channels...

The cheapest way to get the national "I" feed is to invest a couple of hundred bucks in an "FTA" digital satellite receiver and a 1-Meter dish. You can find complete packages of dish/receiver on ebay.

The same feed that the "I" stations get is sent unencrypted, and you can get the location of the satellite and feed details at LyngSat's Website.

Later...
Matt Smith, Station Manager
WGSR-TV "Star-39"
Reidsville, NC
 
"FTA" digital satellite receiver?

> The cheapest way to get the national "I" feed is to invest a
> couple of hundred bucks in an "FTA" digital satellite
> receiver and a 1-Meter dish. You can find complete packages
> of dish/receiver on ebay.

Can you explain what this is in detail please?
 
Re: "FTA" digital satellite receiver?

> ..."FTA" digital satellite receiver and a 1-Meter dish.
> Can you explain what this is in detail please?

"FTA" means Free-To-Air, and is a super-sensitive digital satellite receiver and a dish of less than one meter in diameter. You can get all of the details here...

http://www.ftasatellite.com

Later...
Matt
 
> Does anyone reading this have cable, have a local "i"
> affiliate; and also get the national feed of "i" in addition
> (or instead of) the local feed? I wish they'd pick up that
> national feed and air it somewhere on the digitial
> channels...
>

Why on earth would you want to?

KL<P ID="signature">______________
<a href="http://home.nc.rr.com/gttyson/lastradio.html">The Last Radio Station<a></P>
 
> > Does anyone reading this have cable, have a local "i"
> > affiliate; and also get the national feed of "i" in
> addition
> > (or instead of) the local feed? I wish they'd pick up that
>
> > national feed and air it somewhere on the digitial
> > channels...
> >
>
> Why on earth would you want to?

Erm... Because public domain movies and TV shows are about a billion times better than infomercials. <P ID="signature">______________
-Paul</P>
 
> > Why on earth would you want to?
>
> Erm... Because public domain movies and TV shows are about a
> billion times better than infomercials.
>

More power to you. Unless one has access to the national feed, it's wall-to-wall infomercials and storefront preacher shows. Only a dedicated masochist would subject themselves to such torture.

Refer to my earlier posting re "Re: Pax/i national vs. Pax/i local" for more fulminations on the subject.

KL<P ID="signature">______________
<a href="http://home.nc.rr.com/gttyson/lastradio.html">The Last Radio Station<a></P>
 
> > > Why on earth would you want to?
> >
> > Erm... Because public domain movies and TV shows are about
> a
> > billion times better than infomercials.
> >
>
> More power to you. Unless one has access to the national
> feed, it's wall-to-wall infomercials and storefront preacher
> shows. Only a dedicated masochist would subject themselves
> to such torture.
>
> Refer to my earlier posting re "Re: Pax/i national vs. Pax/i
> local" for more fulminations on the subject.
>
> KL

Uh yeah that would be why i started this thread... <P ID="signature">______________
-Paul</P>
 
Hi everyone:

> > Does anyone reading this have cable, have a local "i"
> > affiliate; and also get the national feed of "i" in
> addition
> > (or instead of) the local feed? I wish they'd pick up that
>
> > national feed and air it somewhere on the digitial
> > channels...
> >
>
> Why on earth would you want to?
>
> KL

Took the words right out of my mouth Keith.

Not only that Paul, but NO cable company (or SATELLITE company for that matter!) can take the "national feed" of ANY of the OTA networks (Be it PAX/i, ABC, CBS, WB, NBC, FOX, UPN or even PBS) and simply put it on Digital Cable. There are rules and even LAWS against this sort of thing that date back (at least!) to the 1980s.

I'd love nothing more than to be able to watch Geena Davis in her role as the President on "Commander In-Chief" an hour earlier too, but I know it just isn't legally possible.

Hope this helps. :)

Cheers for now :)

Pat<P ID="signature">______________
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http://patspodcast.blogspot.com/
Radio? Uhh.....What's THAT?? :)</P>
 
> The cheapest way to get the national "I" feed is to invest a
> couple of hundred bucks in an "FTA" digital satellite
> receiver and a 1-Meter dish. You can find complete packages
> of dish/receiver on ebay.

Not necessarily.

This national feed is available over-the-air in some markets, as a digital subchannel on your local "i" owned & operated station. Buy an OTA digital tuner, hook it up to a standard antenna (outdoor or indoor, depending on how good your local reception is), and you'll have access to the national feed.

If you're outside the reception range of a local digital station carrying this feed, then the FTA digital satellite system would be a good option.
 
> That certainly comes as a surprise to those of us in Los
> Angeles with DirecTV who get both the Pax national feed and
> KPXN.

AFAIK, DirecTV never had such a deal with PAX - they did have a deal to carry the national "affiliate"/infomercials feed, but DirecTV was not released from any must-carry obligations.

DISH Network, however, had this deal (PAX giving up must carry in exchange for a national feed) from early on.

Some former PAX affiliates have recently asserted their must-carry rights in the recent election cycle because they now have programming that no longer duplicates the national feed.
 
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