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How come San Jose TV does not get ranked No.6 by Nielsen but San Fran gets no6
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Does Neilsen base their rankings on MSAs? The SF MSA is about 2.3 times the size of the SJ MSA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_United_States_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_United_States_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas
San Francisco is home to most of the TV stations. You have to remember when TV stations were being allocated in the 1950s, San Francisco had 775,357, while San Jose had 95,280. Things really changed in the Bay Area.
The US Census normally ranks the largest city in a MSA or CSA first, but not always. Cape Coral only recently got promoted to first over Fort Meyers, FL and Baltimore is larger than Washington but gets second place in the CSA.
Nielsen rankings are private and have nothing to do with the government. They can base their markets on whatever they like. The FCC uses these markets simply as it's convenient for them to use Nielsen's markets rather than make up their own.
I would assume Nielsen uses San Francisco as a base as it's has the most licenses allocted to it in the market
The US Census normally ranks the largest city in a MSA or CSA first, but not always. Cape Coral only recently got promoted to first over Fort Meyers, FL and Baltimore is larger than Washington but gets second place in the CSA.
Nielsen rankings are private and have nothing to do with the government. They can base their markets on whatever they like. The FCC uses these markets simply as it's convenient for them to use Nielsen's markets rather than make up their own.
I would assume Nielsen uses San Francisco as a base as it's has the most licenses allocted to it in the market
Re: How come San Jose TV does not get ranked No.6 by Nielsen but San Fran gets n
San Francisco peaked in population (so far) in 2010 with 805,235. It was as small as 678,974 according to the 1980 census.
San Jose officially passed San Francisco in 1990
San Jose 782,248
San Francsico 723,959
San Francisco peaked in population (so far) in 2010 with 805,235. It was as small as 678,974 according to the 1980 census.
San Jose officially passed San Francisco in 1990
San Jose 782,248
San Francsico 723,959
Well, first of all, we call the region "the San Francisco Bay Area," not "the San Jose Bay Area," so it makes sense to call it "the San Francisco market."
Second - if you look at a map of the 9 Bay Area counties, most of the population is to the north - nearer to the city of San Francisco, than to the city of San Jose. Consider the East Bay cities (Oakland, Berkeley, etc.), the San Mateo county cities (Daly City, etc.), and the counties of Marin, Sonoma, and Solano - the majority of the population is considerably to the north of San Jose.
There's a reason that KNTV (licensed to San Jose) moved their transmitter to Mt. San Bruno, between South San Francisco and Daly City. It was so a larger portion of the Bay Area population could get their signal over-the-air. I can see KNTV's tower from my San Francisco neighborhood (Bernal Heights) only a few miles to the south.
Here's a map of the 9 Bay Area counties. San Jose is not listed, but it starts at the southern most tip of the Bay.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bayeconfor.org/media/images/9counties.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bayeconfor.org/baefregion.html&usg=__XddD-0TZUgsKhFVMbJ9a9Sy2Hic=&h=235&w=270&sz=11&hl=en&start=0&sig2=MGoQPuxkmIbulowGPKjbKQ&zoom=1&tbnid=FZr2EhsOM7fKMM:&tbnh=126&tbnw=145&ei=EGggTtuoHY_2swPbuolQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmap%2Bof%2B9%2Bcounty%2Bbay%2Barea%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1008%26bih%3D557%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=152&vpy=88&dur=141&hovh=188&hovw=216&tx=138&ty=106&page=1&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&biw=1008&bih=557
Second - if you look at a map of the 9 Bay Area counties, most of the population is to the north - nearer to the city of San Francisco, than to the city of San Jose. Consider the East Bay cities (Oakland, Berkeley, etc.), the San Mateo county cities (Daly City, etc.), and the counties of Marin, Sonoma, and Solano - the majority of the population is considerably to the north of San Jose.
There's a reason that KNTV (licensed to San Jose) moved their transmitter to Mt. San Bruno, between South San Francisco and Daly City. It was so a larger portion of the Bay Area population could get their signal over-the-air. I can see KNTV's tower from my San Francisco neighborhood (Bernal Heights) only a few miles to the south.
Here's a map of the 9 Bay Area counties. San Jose is not listed, but it starts at the southern most tip of the Bay.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bayeconfor.org/media/images/9counties.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bayeconfor.org/baefregion.html&usg=__XddD-0TZUgsKhFVMbJ9a9Sy2Hic=&h=235&w=270&sz=11&hl=en&start=0&sig2=MGoQPuxkmIbulowGPKjbKQ&zoom=1&tbnid=FZr2EhsOM7fKMM:&tbnh=126&tbnw=145&ei=EGggTtuoHY_2swPbuolQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmap%2Bof%2B9%2Bcounty%2Bbay%2Barea%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1008%26bih%3D557%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=152&vpy=88&dur=141&hovh=188&hovw=216&tx=138&ty=106&page=1&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&biw=1008&bih=557
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