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How far did Atlantic 252 travel???

M

midwestclubber

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I know this station of the past broadcasted out of Ireland, but could be heard in London during the Day. How far is London from the Atlantic 252 Transmitter? Ive seen it on Maps, but I cant estimate the exact distance, and the amount of Miles--Kilometers it covered, and how far from London was it from the Ireland Transmitting site. THANKS....
 
> I know this station of the past broadcasted out of Ireland,
> but could be heard in London during the Day. How far is
> London from the Atlantic 252 Transmitter? Ive seen it on
> Maps, but I cant estimate the exact distance, and the amount
> of Miles--Kilometers it covered, and how far from London was
> it from the Ireland Transmitting site. THANKS....
>

Dublin Airport to London Heathrow is 280 miles.. Central London is a further 20 from the airport..

That should give you an approximate idea of the distance!

Jazzy
Swing FM Newport RI
BBC Three Counties Early Riser Correspondent
 
> > I know this station of the past broadcasted out of
> Ireland,
> > but could be heard in London during the Day. How far is
> > London from the Atlantic 252 Transmitter? Ive seen it on
> > Maps, but I cant estimate the exact distance, and the
> amount
> > of Miles--Kilometers it covered, and how far from London
> was
> > it from the Ireland Transmitting site. THANKS....
> >
>
> Dublin Airport to London Heathrow is 280 miles.. Central
> London is a further 20 from the airport..
>
> That should give you an approximate idea of the distance!
>
> Jazzy
> Swing FM Newport RI
> BBC Three Counties Early Riser Correspondent
>
Thanks. Yeah that gives me an IDEA, since the RTE transmitter was located on the coast, not too far from Dublin, maybe about 40 miles south east of there. It must have JUST BLASTED into London then...During daylight hours at 500,000 watts. It was probably audible there at night too, at 100,000 watts.
 
Try places like Manitoba in Canada, in OH and definitely in MA. Atlantic 252, and the station presently on 252 - RTE 1 - was heard and can be heard in these places with the right equipment.

Longwave DX hobbyists can and do pull these stations in with the right antennas and equipment like we receive local-distant AM stations. The reason is that they're monster stations - not many longwave stations below 100kw - and they are designed to cover large areas with a single transmitter.

In terms of reception of 252Khz in London: it's not fantastic but it is for the most part a fairly reliable signal. It's better in the day than at night because of the fact they drop down from 300kw to 100kw to protect the Algerian station on 252 (who are on 1,500 kw). They also have to protect a non-existent Finnish station on 252 as well. Reception of 252Khz in the British Isles is best on the western part of the country - basically because of the mountains in the way in Wales, the Pennines in the north and the lowland mountains in Scotland.

I haven't heard 252khz here because all I have is a UK clock radio (a bit crappy one really), but I have heard 198Khz (BBC Radio 4) on it once here in Greensboro - but I don't usually run it here, because it thinks 50 seconds is a minute.

Mark
 
> Thanks. Yeah that gives me an IDEA, since the RTE
> transmitter was located on the coast, not too far from
> Dublin, maybe about 40 miles south east of there. It must
> have JUST BLASTED into London then...During daylight hours
> at 500,000 watts. It was probably audible there at night
> too, at 100,000 watts.
>

It didn't really blast into London - electrical interference is a major problem on LW frequencies, especially in big cities, which is why BBC Radio 4 has a relay for its (much closer) 500kW 198LW transmitter in London (on 720AM).

RTL's French service on 234LW is probably stronger in London both day and night than 252 ever was - that's a whole 2000kW from Luxembourg (I bet that rattles a few fillings in the surrounding area), and without any inconvenient mountains in the way.
 
> Try places like Manitoba in Canada, in OH and definitely in
> MA. Atlantic 252, and the station presently on 252 - RTE 1
> - was heard and can be heard in these places with the right
> equipment.
>
> Longwave DX hobbyists can and do pull these stations in with
> the right antennas and equipment like we receive
> local-distant AM stations. The reason is that they're
> monster stations - not many longwave stations below 100kw -
> and they are designed to cover large areas with a single
> transmitter.
>
> In terms of reception of 252Khz in London: it's not
> fantastic but it is for the most part a fairly reliable
> signal. It's better in the day than at night because of the
> fact they drop down from 300kw to 100kw to protect the
> Algerian station on 252 (who are on 1,500 kw). They also
> have to protect a non-existent Finnish station on 252 as
> well. Reception of 252Khz in the British Isles is best on
> the western part of the country - basically because of the
> mountains in the way in Wales, the Pennines in the north and
> the lowland mountains in Scotland.
>
> I haven't heard 252khz here because all I have is a UK clock
> radio (a bit crappy one really), but I have heard 198Khz
> (BBC Radio 4) on it once here in Greensboro - but I don't
> usually run it here, because it thinks 50 seconds is a
> minute.
>
> Mark
>
I would have loved to had a u.k radio back when Atlantic was on the air. I didnt discover Atlantic 252 untill 6 months before they flipped to Team Talk, on the old Real One stream they used to have. I wish I had discovered it before then. Was there any chance Atlantic 252 ever made it into INDIANA?
 
The best time to try for Eurobroadcasters from Thee States is after it gets fully dark over here but before the crack of dawn over there; from about eight PM local time to around midnight local time, varying with the seasons. Too many NDB's above 190KHz in the Americas. The best station for me has always been Allouise France on 162KHz.<P ID="signature">______________
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Hi Guys,

I was born and grew up in Co.Meath where the Radio Tara(Atlantic 252)Longwave mast
was erected to much consternation by locals in 1987..!
Atlantic 252 was on of the best CHR/Hot AC music radio stations I have ever had the pleasure of listening to and working on air on as a jock.
We received emails from all over the world with our livestream at www.atlantic252.com at the time('00-'02)and also many calls from all over Europe,UK and Ireland.

I myself recieved an email once from a listener who picked us up on 252 Longwave in Finland.. We also had reception reports from Ukraine,Berlin,Long Island USA,France and many other places all over the world.
Whilst on holiday in San Antonio,Ibiza on the Balearic Islands in Spain I was able to hear my voicetracks on a weekend overnight on a simple bedside clock radio.
There are many instances all over the world where I have been for example Philadelphia where I spoke to people who had heard of Atlantic 252.

It was a great radio station,not just good but a truly GREAT radio station.
I presented the very last show on Atlantic 252 on Thursday,December 20th 2001 at
2pm - 4.51pm - We had gone out on our station Christmas party the night before.
As a closedown we ran a tribute cd which myself and Eric Murphy produced which featured highlights and airchecks of Atlantic 252's great 12 year history.
The very last song before the very last live break on Atlantic 252 was Sonique's
"It Feels So Good" - now Officially I was the very last presenter to ever close the microphone channel on Atlantic 252's Alice Air 2000 console.
We ran ident free with commercials at .35 and.50 spots hourly for round 6 weeks into 2002 - new songs featured on that log that weren't introduced by presenter's during this time included "In your eyes" from Kylie Minogue.

It is so heart warming to see people ask about Atlantic 252 after all this time..
By the way I dropped by our purpose built studios this evening whilst on the way home from www.choicefmdublin.com and nowadays they are "Meath County Council Offices" - slightly less rock and roll hey?
"It's the politics of Dancing - the politicians are now DJ's"- Re-flex 1984 hit
has so much more meaning to me now than it did in 1984 on Radio Nova.

Regards,

Enda Caldwell
 
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