Hello, how is WVNJ 1160am Signal there? Days, and nights? Thank you for your time, from Boston, Massachusetts
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HOW IS THEIR SIGNAL?
- Thread starter MR. JAROME_CALVIN
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Haven't been to Orient Point (fathest tip of the North Fork) ever, but back in the day when they surveyed Westchester County as a separate book, the signal went like this in the day :
With deep nulls toward some NJ stations on 1160 and 1170, WVNJ sent 20,000 watts somewhat east-southeast. Engineers here could state what the effective wattage of that would translate to.
The owners wanted a city-grade/Manhattan signal, or at least one that reached the downtown of Columbus Circle.
Since the signal could go no farther south, it wound up sending great coverage to parts of Passaic county, all of Bergen county, norhtern Manhattan, all of the Bronx, then 90% of Westchester's population before heading out to sea (Long Island Sound).
From there it crashed into all of the north shore of Nassau County and parts of Suffolk's north shore, coming to a sort of rest in Orient Point.
The station used to show up quite respectably in the Westchester ratings, virtually two counties away and in another state. Perhaps someone reading this can state if WVNJ ever made the Nassau-Suffolk book ? Or maybe even the Hamptons-Riverhead book ?
With deep nulls toward some NJ stations on 1160 and 1170, WVNJ sent 20,000 watts somewhat east-southeast. Engineers here could state what the effective wattage of that would translate to.
The owners wanted a city-grade/Manhattan signal, or at least one that reached the downtown of Columbus Circle.
Since the signal could go no farther south, it wound up sending great coverage to parts of Passaic county, all of Bergen county, norhtern Manhattan, all of the Bronx, then 90% of Westchester's population before heading out to sea (Long Island Sound).
From there it crashed into all of the north shore of Nassau County and parts of Suffolk's north shore, coming to a sort of rest in Orient Point.
The station used to show up quite respectably in the Westchester ratings, virtually two counties away and in another state. Perhaps someone reading this can state if WVNJ ever made the Nassau-Suffolk book ? Or maybe even the Hamptons-Riverhead book ?
Steve Green NEPA said:
WVNJ runs 20 kW-D (four towers) and 2.5 kW-N (three towers). I would think that, by incorporating the (unused at night) fourth tower into the night array, a night power of 5 kW (or close) would be possible. That ought to improve the nighttime reception in Westchester while contining to provide adequate protection to co-channel stations in Maine and the Albany area. The cost would probably be in the $250,000 area. Anyone have any info on why this was not done?
Extending Nash FM into LI
There has been much talk on this board about trying to move 94.7 from its current site in NJ to either ESB, or some other tall building in Manhattan.
As the main issue for the country format is putting a stronger signal into eastern Nassau and Western Suffolk counties, might it not be much easier, cheaper and equally effective if Cumulus could buy a station in that area, and simulcast?. One that comes to mind is WWSK on 94.3, which is right in that part of LI. Perhaps owner Conoisseur Media would not be sorry to see it go, as it tends to have low ratings.
As Cumulus apparently has big plans to be a major player in country music programming, perhaps even powerful WALK 97.5, which is still for sale, would not be out of the question. That station blankets most of LI and coastal CT.
There has been much talk on this board about trying to move 94.7 from its current site in NJ to either ESB, or some other tall building in Manhattan.
As the main issue for the country format is putting a stronger signal into eastern Nassau and Western Suffolk counties, might it not be much easier, cheaper and equally effective if Cumulus could buy a station in that area, and simulcast?. One that comes to mind is WWSK on 94.3, which is right in that part of LI. Perhaps owner Conoisseur Media would not be sorry to see it go, as it tends to have low ratings.
As Cumulus apparently has big plans to be a major player in country music programming, perhaps even powerful WALK 97.5, which is still for sale, would not be out of the question. That station blankets most of LI and coastal CT.
Re: Extending Nash FM into LI
agreed but they're putting the Nash brand on their already existing country stations in other markets, not necessarily going around buying up more stations in unproven country markets. Remember Nash-FM, NYC is not a guaranteed success. It's day 2!
luperm said:
agreed but they're putting the Nash brand on their already existing country stations in other markets, not necessarily going around buying up more stations in unproven country markets. Remember Nash-FM, NYC is not a guaranteed success. It's day 2!
thank you all for your responces. Can someone in New York City hear this station?
No.
They have to protect 1160 WOBM at the Jersey shore as well. That pulls the signal in to the south. You can hear it in Yonkers and some of the Bronx. When you get into the big concrete and steel jungle that is Manhattan, it doesn't have the power, proximity or pattern to punch through (that was an alliterative sentence!).
The main lobe shoots right at the Tappan Zee Bridge on the daytime pattern.
Night points a few miles south of the Tappan Zee, but is only 2.5kW and gets beat up all over Bergen county. In fact, you can't even hear it at the studio in Teaneck at night.
In addition, the ground conductivity at the mountain top site in Oakland is horrible, and that's being kind. That's why they were able to bump up to 20kW daytime and not have it get out any more than a 5kW station on 1160.
They have to protect 1160 WOBM at the Jersey shore as well. That pulls the signal in to the south. You can hear it in Yonkers and some of the Bronx. When you get into the big concrete and steel jungle that is Manhattan, it doesn't have the power, proximity or pattern to punch through (that was an alliterative sentence!).
The main lobe shoots right at the Tappan Zee Bridge on the daytime pattern.
Night points a few miles south of the Tappan Zee, but is only 2.5kW and gets beat up all over Bergen county. In fact, you can't even hear it at the studio in Teaneck at night.
In addition, the ground conductivity at the mountain top site in Oakland is horrible, and that's being kind. That's why they were able to bump up to 20kW daytime and not have it get out any more than a 5kW station on 1160.
oh, ok ok ok, I understand now, Thank you all very very very much. You all are a great help very much
How far is their station from New York City?
It's a little less than 40 miles northwest of mid-town Manhattan.LAUROJRM said:
http://radio-locator.com/info/WVNJ-AM
I just looked at this station's website, what a cesspool of infomercials and crazy talk.
Is this the AM signal Family Radio has in its sights?
If not, maybe Townsquare should buy it and put NJ 101.5 onto it, extending that station's coverage north into Bergen/Passaic. It seems pretty useless as it is now.
Is this the AM signal Family Radio has in its sights?
If not, maybe Townsquare should buy it and put NJ 101.5 onto it, extending that station's coverage north into Bergen/Passaic. It seems pretty useless as it is now.
I actually tried getting it today near the George Washington Bridge on the NJ side but there is no signal whatsoever on 1160 AM there, so either they're off the air or the coverage map is fictional.
Yesterday afternoon I had a clear 1160 signal walking along East 116th Street near First Avenue in Manhattan.
thank you all very much
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