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How Long Does Movin Have?

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SeenItAll

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Now that Emmis has bailed on the Movin format reports are that Syracuse is one of three remaining markets in the country.They don't seem to have a lot of commericals on the station and I understand that the ratings are poor.Will they switch formats?
 
Hmmmm. I would hope not in Syracuse. The format has legs as long it's programmed correctly, which it is not. Put the correct personalities that fit the format, which these do not. Fix it now S&C or you'll be in a hole too deep to crawl out of... Do what's right, now or you'll be sorry!
 
ROCKTHEMIC said:
The format has legs as long it's programmed correctly, which it is not.

REAAAAALLLYYY?! The format has been a non-performer wherever it has been. Syracuse is one of the ONLY ones left!

I think something like a "JACK-FM" would be more palatable and find a niche in Syracuse. Plus the low overhead would work for them. Do it!
 
If "Jack" works there like it has in most other markets, it might give them a one year bump, then fade. With a lack of promotions dollars, you might not even get that. In the current marketplace, evolution not revolution seems to be a wiser course.
 
Actually, you guys are wrong. Ther are 5 Movin Stations (syr, seattle, Phoenix, Jacksonville, Anchorage) and there are around another 18 stations doing the Movin format under different names. Ex: KTU-NYC, My106- Philly, and etc.
I think the station sounds great!
 
At some point how it "sounds" becomes irrelevant.How it "rates" and how it "sells" are what counts.This format seems DOA in just about every market.
 
I agree with you Seenitall. I think it is a great format. The problem with the failed markets is that those markets have 2 chr, 2 urbans and 2 ac stations. Way too much comp! In Seattle they do extremely well. In Syracuse I believe there is room for Movin. Hot is way too Hip Hop and Q is way too AC. That makes a space for movin. They dont have great ratings 12+ but the have great ratings F 25-44. And I looked at their TSL and they are Number 1 or #2 (depends on Demo). So the have opportunities. I do hear a lot more commercial than last year even without Billy. It just takes time. That format is perfect as a secordary station. If they had a station doing another format (lets say Country or Rock) and they used Movin as an "Extra Sale". I went to 2 of their events and they were packed (Singles Mingle and Singers). Movin doesnt have to quanity of listeners like 93q (and will never have) but Movin listeners are ACTIVE Listeners. They respond. Movin needs to exploit that. They just need to sell it. Music is great. When they first started ...it was almost like Rhythmic JACK. They were all over the place. Now the music is right (nice mix).
 
To every rule, there is an exception... Movin may be failing elsewhere, but it seems to be doing well here.

Now that my job has me on normal 9-5 hours, I've had a chance to listen to morning radio every day (as opposed to before, when I worked late, and thus, slept late). Usually I've got it on WSYR, but if Galuski has a lame guest (or if Fishman is filling in) then I flip over to the FM dial. I most often find myself listening to either Ted & Amy on Q or Skip & Heather on Movin.

Considering they've been a team for only a few months, Skip & Heather sound pretty good. Better than when it was Nick & Heather... I can't compare to the Skip & Jess days, as I wasn't listening then. S&H sound like they have chemistry, they get alog, and all that jazz. Don't get to listen middays often (at work) but the afternoon guy needs to simply talk less. The guy may have NYC experience, and it's great that he has the permission to break out of the cookie-cutter "read the liner, play the song" format... but his ramblings often go much longer than necessary. Maybe put an egg timer in the studio or something.

The music list isn't quite what I'd call "perfect" (is a "perfect" playlist really possible?) but it's a lot better than it was when the station started. I wasn't a fan of big decade-jumps between songs, or hearing what sounded like the start of a 90s song, only to realize it's the 70s song that 90s song sampled. Those were always letdowns.

If the station has good numbers F25-44 (thanks Radioflow), you do have to wonder why they don't have more national business on the air. And yes, good point about sales -- the reps only have Movin and Radio Disney to offer to clients. Tough to offer those tempting "package deals" when you only have 2 stations... even tougher when neither station is at the top of the P12+ ratings.

Being a smaller, local group is good because you don't have to worry about "corporate" demanding a chunk of your revenue... so as long as the station is profitable, it should survive. There's no pressure to increase profit by 10% year-to-year because "corporate" said so, or else. On the down side, being a smaller owner leaves you lacking in certain areas: seems like it took them forever to begin streaming online, and the morning show blog is on a free wordpress.com account with a generic template (as opposed to being integrated into the station's actual website). That's like when stations post yahoo.com e-mail addresses for their jocks; it just looks silly.

Haven't been to any events, but it sounds (from radioflow and from on-air chatter and online photos) that the events are well-attended. But you don't want to have too many, or you may tire the listeners out. And soliciting new venues -- who may be direct competitors of existing clients -- may annoy those existing clients. Being a smaller, newer station, Movin's not really in the position to burn bridges with solid clients, so I can understand if the sales team might be underachieving in certain areas. Still, I'm sure there must be ways to increase business if they tried (and if they have the manpower... I don't know how many sales reps they have).
 
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