How Long Until CBS Cans Imus?

[mostb1]

It will happen. No doubt in my mind. They should do it tonight but they must by the end of the radiothon.

 

[UncleBozzle]

Why must they can Imus? It was a tongue in cheek comment. Notice the only side to this story is what the Black community thinks, we never here those opinions from anyone else. I'd imagine that most people could really care less. If you don't like what he's about just tune him out.

 

[Z-100]

If they do can him, it will mainly be because free speech is "conditional"!
Right, wrong, whatever.

 

[mostb1]

Why must they can Imus? It was a tongue in cheek comment. Notice the only side to this story is what the Black community thinks, we never here those opinions from anyone else. I'd imagine that most people could really care less. If you don't like what he's about just tune him out.

Get a clue, dude. This has snowballed to the point NOBODY can dig him out of this. Sharpton and Jackson are going to lead a HUGE protest in front of Black Rock tomorrow. They've gone to his advertisers. He's TOAST.

He's a racist. He, among others, has LOWERED the bar as far is it is going to go I hope. His filthly racist remarks did him in.

 

[talkjim]

This is in no way a free speech issue--if you don't believe me ask any lawyer. Yes, the constitution guarantees us free speech--it does not guarantee anyone, not even Don Imus, the right to host a talk show.

I hope CBS gets rid of him early and often.

 

[UncleBozzle]

Dude. Tune him out and listen to the Reverend then. You can believe what you want, that's the awesome thing about America. I can do the same. It's a sad day when the Reverends Sharpton and Jackson can deprive someone of their career. Maybe we should look to ban the music played on rap stations. It's all the same if you think about it.

 

[mostb1]

If they do can him, it will mainly be because free speech is "conditional"!
Right, wrong, whatever.

You don't have the right to "free speech" on the PUBLIC AIRWAVES.

He's in freefall. There are too many powerful organizations that want him fired. He'll have NO advertisers since they're pressuring them.

Get a clue. I knew it would happen from MY FIRST POST about Imus.

 

[SuperRadioFan]

"It's a sad day when the Reverends Sharpton and Jackson can deprive someone of their career."

Ehhhhhh NOPE.... Imus has done that.

BTW NO advertisers, NO money to pay salaries of radio station employees including Imus' $10 million salary... Sooooo NO SHOW on the air. Gee that's logical.

 

[tomservo]

There is no implicit free speech on the public airwaves (what a misnomer nowadays!) but unless he violated his employer's standards, he only has to worry about the FCC. Obscene material is always prohibited; this was not obscene. Indecent, yes. Subject to enforcement? Probably not. Against his employer's standards? MSNBC thinks it was. CBS, maybe not.

I've read through several threads on this board about Imus and a few folks have been kind enough to elucidate on Imus' controversial language in the past. Why did they pick now to attack? He said worse things in the past and no one went ballistic. This whole thing would sit easier with me if he had actually said something rascist or overtly sexist towards the general populace... But he didn't. He just insulted some hard-working women from the Rutgers basketball team, who if my news is right, didn't actually win any championship.

If this had been a busy news day, no one would have really paid him much attention. Life would go on, the entire nation wouldn't know who Don Imus is and the Lady Rutgers team would be forgotten as everyone who is #2 eventually is. Oh, and mostb1 wouldn't be all offended and outraged on behalf of others, who likely couldn't care less.

 

[mostb1]

There is no implicit free speech on the public airwaves (what a misnomer nowadays!) but unless he violated his employer's standards, he only has to worry about the FCC. Obscene material is always prohibited; this was not obscene. Indecent, yes. Subject to enforcement? Probably not. Against his employer's standards? MSNBC thinks it was. CBS, maybe not.

I've read through several threads on this board about Imus and a few folks have been kind enough to elucidate on Imus' controversial language in the past. Why did they pick now to attack? He said worse things in the past and no one went ballistic. This whole thing would sit easier with me if he had actually said something rascist or overtly sexist towards the general populace... But he didn't. He just insulted some hard-working women from the Rutgers basketball team, who if my news is right, didn't actually win any championship.

If this had been a busy news day, no one would have really paid him much attention. Life would go on, the entire nation wouldn't know who Don Imus is and the Lady Rutgers team would be forgotten as everyone who is #2 eventually is. Oh, and mostb1 wouldn't be all offended and outraged on behalf of others, who likely couldn't care less.

"He just insulted some hard-working women from the Rutgers basketball team..." - your quote. Umm, no he did not JUST insult them. He insulted women and African-Americans a whole with a racist, sexist remark. But that is par for the course for him. He can not do that and try and make himself into the place where political leaders and top journalists drop by for a chat.

As for his history, he's been asked before to stop this, promised and then continued his racist, sexist, homophobic ways on the air. So that makes Imus A LIAR. But if you're going to keep doing this kind of thing on the air, which he's done for way too long, it eventually is going to catch up with you. And it did. It just too too long. But what comes around, goes around.

He picked on the wrong group of people. After the coach and players speaking out on Tuesday, he really had no way of recovering although he already was in a freefall. Plus he's handled this SO BADLY. Why did he go to Sharpton? Why is he bad rapping Sharpton now? Why didn't he just shut up in the first place when he was called on this? He's still shooting off his mouth today. Maybe I can't blame him for that. What has he got to loose? He's going to be silenced after tomorrow anyway.

 

[Johnny Morgan]

Obscene material is always prohibited; this was not obscene. Indecent, yes.

It wasn't indecent, either. Indecency, under 18 USC 1464 and 47 CFR 73.3999, is limited to sexual or excretory functions. Racial speech is not indecent.

To quote the FCC's own Enforcement Bureau website:

The FCC has defined broadcast indecency as “language or material that, in context, depicts or describes, in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards for the broadcast medium, sexual or excretory organs or activities.” Indecent programming contains patently offensive sexual or excretory material that does not rise to the level of obscenity.

 

[zoneguy]

Time will tell if CBS caves into pressure. However one distinction needs to be pointed out, MSNBC is essentially a news and information outlet. There is supposed to be some semblence of journalism present in all they do (if you consider blowhard opinionators talking ad nauseum news related), While Imus often provided this, there were parts of his show that clearly did not fit the mold.

Westwood One is not a news operation, nor is WFAN. Unless the advertiser pressure is unbearable, they can say that the suspension is commensurate with the offense and take it from there. To them, it is an entertainment program and thus held to a slightly different standard.

 

[mostb1]

Time will tell if CBS caves into pressure. However one distinction needs to be pointed out, MSNBC is essentially a news and information outlet. There is supposed to be some semblence of journalism present in all they do (if you consider blowhard opinionators talking ad nauseum news related), While Imus often provided this, there were parts of his show that clearly did not fit the mold.

Westwood One is not a news operation, nor is WFAN. Unless the advertiser pressure is unbearable, they can say that the suspension is commensurate with the offense and take it from there. To them, it is an entertainment program and thus held to a slightly different standard.

Would you like to repeat this at the CBS shareholders meeting? I'm sure ALL those protesting at the meeting will drown you out. Not to mention those (who own CBS stock) who will get up and speak out IN the meeting of why CBS continues to "harbour" a racist.

It isn't advertiser PRESSURE on CBS that is unbearable, it's the pressure on the advertisers that has made it impossible for them to continue with the Imus show. And that will not stop until Imus is fired. And it will not be targeted just at Imus if he isn't FIRED soon BUT AT ALL CBS STATIONS, NETWORKS and SHOWS.

Imus can't change his ways after 40 years. He's a racist. He's built an audience of people who like his racist remarks. Now, he'll be watched like a hawk. One more offense and he'd be out anyway. And that would happen, in what, a day or two after he came back?

Come on, people, get real. He's gone. He can't survive this and his show wouldn't be the same if he came back anyway.

 

[klinker]

It all has do about gender. The white population cares less as your seeing. Racist phrase yes. Racist as a person no. Until you explain how he is a racist and give multiple examples and not joking phrases you have no point. It's funny how this country works. We can sing about stuff like this but you can't say. What a double standard. I'm happy it's affecting the radiothon though. Pledges are way up and I even gave $1,000 dollars to support Don and the kids.

 

[mostb1]

It all has do about gender. The white population cares less as your seeing. Racist phrase yes. Racist as a person no. Until you explain how he is a racist and give multiple examples and not joking phrases you have no point. It's funny how this country works. We can sing about stuff like this but you can't say. What a double standard. I'm happy it's affecting the radiothon though. Pledges are way up and I even gave $1,000 dollars to support Don and the kids.

Why don't you read this http://www.slate.com/id/2163872/?nav=fix
I previously posted it. It's ENLIGHTENING.

 

[zoneguy]

Time will tell if CBS caves into pressure. However one distinction needs to be pointed out, MSNBC is essentially a news and information outlet. There is supposed to be some semblence of journalism present in all they do (if you consider blowhard opinionators talking ad nauseum news related), While Imus often provided this, there were parts of his show that clearly did not fit the mold.

Westwood One is not a news operation, nor is WFAN. Unless the advertiser pressure is unbearable, they can say that the suspension is commensurate with the offense and take it from there. To them, it is an entertainment program and thus held to a slightly different standard.

Would you like to repeat this at the CBS shareholders meeting? I'm sure ALL those protesting at the meeting will drown you out. Not to mention those (who own CBS stock) who will get up and speak out IN the meeting of why CBS continues to "harbour" a racist.

It isn't advertiser PRESSURE on CBS that is unbearable, it's the pressure on the advertisers that has made it impossible for them to continue with the Imus show. And that will not stop until Imus is fired. And it will not be targeted just at Imus if he isn't FIRED soon BUT AT ALL CBS STATIONS, NETWORKS and SHOWS.

Imus can't change his ways after 40 years. He's a racist. He's built an audience of people who like his racist remarks. Now, he'll be watched like a hawk. One more offense and he'd be out anyway. And that would happen, in what, a day or two after he came back?

Come on, people, get real. He's gone. He can't survive this and his show wouldn't be the same if he came back anyway.

Actually the Shareholder meeting will have a lot of people trying to figure out if they lose money with him (stock goes down) or they make more money with him (stock goes up). Yes there will be social grandstanding, but at the end of the day, the stockholders (probably plent of them loyal Imus listeners) will have a healthy debate.

You want to call Imus a racist, that's your prerogative. But, my original point was CBS Radio is a different operation than MSNBC and thus may look at this incident differently. If they suddenly applied the Imus standard to all of their holdings, they would have to shut down an awful lot of their mornings shows and close every one of their urban music stations.

 

[mostb1]

Time will tell if CBS caves into pressure. However one distinction needs to be pointed out, MSNBC is essentially a news and information outlet. There is supposed to be some semblence of journalism present in all they do (if you consider blowhard opinionators talking ad nauseum news related), While Imus often provided this, there were parts of his show that clearly did not fit the mold.

Westwood One is not a news operation, nor is WFAN. Unless the advertiser pressure is unbearable, they can say that the suspension is commensurate with the offense and take it from there. To them, it is an entertainment program and thus held to a slightly different standard.

Would you like to repeat this at the CBS shareholders meeting? I'm sure ALL those protesting at the meeting will drown you out. Not to mention those (who own CBS stock) who will get up and speak out IN the meeting of why CBS continues to "harbour" a racist.

It isn't advertiser PRESSURE on CBS that is unbearable, it's the pressure on the advertisers that has made it impossible for them to continue with the Imus show. And that will not stop until Imus is fired. And it will not be targeted just at Imus if he isn't FIRED soon BUT AT ALL CBS STATIONS, NETWORKS and SHOWS.

Imus can't change his ways after 40 years. He's a racist. He's built an audience of people who like his racist remarks. Now, he'll be watched like a hawk. One more offense and he'd be out anyway. And that would happen, in what, a day or two after he came back?

Come on, people, get real. He's gone. He can't survive this and his show wouldn't be the same if he came back anyway.

Actually the Shareholder meeting will have a lot of people trying to figure out if they lose money with him (stock goes down) or they make more money with him (stock goes up). Yes there will be social grandstanding, but at the end of the day, the stockholders (probably plent of them loyal Imus listeners) will have a healthy debate.

You want to call Imus a racist, that's your prerogative. But, my original point was CBS Radio is a different operation than MSNBC and thus may look at this incident differently. If they suddenly applied the Imus standard to all of their holdings, they would have to shut down an awful lot of their mornings shows and close every one of their urban music stations.

Hit the CBS Television Network and CBS Television Stations along with a few local radio stations, which they will do if pushed, and you will see who the loser is...Imus and the execs.

Do you REALLY think CBS execs will put themselves in a continuing firestorm over all of this? If you say yes, you really are out of touch.

There is NO DIFFERENCE between CBS or NBC's situation. IT'S ALL ABOUT GREEN.

The most insightful person during this entire situation has been the Rutgers coach. She knows about GREEN...you should too.

 

[mostb1]

My prediction is they will fire Imus BEFORE Dan Mason officially starts at CBS on Monday. This will relieve him of the stigma of the one who made the decision (as one of or his first acts back at CBS).

 

[Joe_Capitano]

Go to the window and collect. And if you had 4:45 pm ET on Thursday, April 12 in your "pool", do the same. AP says he's gone.