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How Many Times an Hour Does 'J' Say "Live and Local?"

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FredLeonard

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Talk about over-kill! One story after another, plus the traffic - all "live and local." No other CBS all news station (or WTOP) beats "live and local" or any other slogan to the death like this. What's the point? Do they think people need to be reminded that 'JR runs syndicated shows much of the day? Or is this some suit and his brainstorm?
 
Doesn't mean as much, now that we're in the age of the PPM.
The programming on these three letter call stations are night and day. The positioner isn't that J is "live and local" it's that the station is "all news".
JR is talk. Both stations news/weather/traffic/sports are "live and local".
 
On the bottom of your reply i read WLYV... When?
I used to own WLYV in Fort Wayne.

That was a long time ago. I was at WLYV from very late 1965 until late 1966. I was one of the first brought in by Mike Joseph for the change to Top-40 on 1/1/66. I left there for WHLO. I used my real name on the air until I arrived in Detroit (CKLW, November 1971) and had to change it to Grant Hudson because there was already a James Reese at WJLB.

The original crew that Mike brought to Fort Wayne was Skinny Bobby Harper, Ron White, Ron Morgan, Bob Todd, Don Beckman and me. Harper, Morgan and Beckman have all since passed and the remaining three (White, Todd and me) are all living in Florida now. I see Bob Todd occasionally; Ron White and I meet for breakfast about once a month.
 
How cool!

I bought it WAAAAY after all of that. 1995-2005. Did you ever see any of the news stories about the riots in 70 or 71 and the torching of their transmitter site?
 
WLYV is one of two AM stations I never heard from Ft. Wayne. WGL 1250 even gets a little groundwave into Michigan. Can hear WKJG/WMEE or whatever it is this week on 1380 quite often at night. I received WANE-TV, WPTA-TV, and WKJG-TV quite often in the 1970s.

I listen to WWJ often for the traffic and weather together, and the traffic reports have gotten much better over the years with newer technology. Usually not fast enough to avoid the backup, but it's wise to tune in to avoid backups on I-75 from North of West Branch to Saginaw with Construction and Holiday Weekends. I was a able to avoid a huge backup once that way, finding out a good half hour North of West Branch.
 
It seems that CBS may be considering throwing in the towel on traffic reports. New technology for gathering traffic data may have improved the quality of the information but new technology also provides better ways to get the information than traffic every 10 minutes (and they decide what's worth mentioning). KYW, the CBS all news station in Philly, is now promoting a traffic app. Don't be surprised if 'J' and the other CBS stations do, too.

Apparently, you get reports customized for your route with on-demand reporting and instant alerts when stuff happens on the route.

Also worth noting that Clear Channel now owns the traffic service (no longer co-owned with CBS radio stations).

Google Play said:
CBS Local YourDrive™ has a new design and NEW features to help you manage your daily commute! YourDrive™ delivers real-time personalized traffic reports for the Philadelphia metro area to your smartphone. Hands-free visual and audio reports advise you of traffic conditions on your route, so you're always able to arrive on time.

CBS Philly, CBS 3 and KYW Newsradio 1060 have teamed up for the best traffic app in Philly. YourDrive™ is your personal traffic helicopter! The app utilizes user reports and traffic data from reliable sources to guide you to your destination with ONLY the information you need, when you need it.

Features:
- Hands-free audio traffic report. No driver distraction.
- Monitors traffic when you input a route and as you drive (5 miles ahead on local streets, 20 miles ahead on highways)
*Covers the following counties: Berks, Bucks, Carbon, Chester, Delaware, Lehigh, Monroe, Montgomery, Northampton and Philadelphia in Pennsylvania and Atlantic, Burlington, Camden, Cape May, Cumberland, Gloucester, Mercer, Monmouth, Ocean and Salem in New Jersey.
- Save your most-used routes and receive daily traffic push notifications before you leave home or work
- Push notifications of major traffic incidents that affect the entire metro area
- Choose from a list of 20 local points of interest, such as Philadelphia International Airport, Sesame Place and King of Prussia Mall
- Help other commuters! Report traffic tips to the YourDrive™ traffic center and we'll use your report to update others
 
I don't think it's a one-or-the-other thing. This falls into the category of creating new revenue sources.

Not yet. Migration takes time. The networks programmed both TV and old time radio for a decade or more before pulling the plug on old time radio. It took almost as long for all theaters to convert to talkies.

This past winter, KYW just gave a brief summary of school closings and referred people online (before they always read the whole damn list).

If CBS expects to survive as an audio provider, they need to figure out what terrestrial radio does well and what other means of distribution do better. Traffic reports can be done better in other ways.
 
Traffic reports can be done better in other ways.

That's not the point. Traffic reports are sponsored elements. You don't drop a sponsored element unless you've got something to replace it with. They will continue to do on-air traffic reports. They may change the way they do them, so they're not using Clear Channel's service. But I have no reason to believe they'll stop unless advertisers quit sponsoring them.
 
School closing reports are a key reason why all news ratings spike in the winter. I'm with BigA, they'll keep airing them.
 
That's not the point. Traffic reports are sponsored elements. You don't drop a sponsored element unless you've got something to replace it with. They will continue to do on-air traffic reports. They may change the way they do them, so they're not using Clear Channel's service. But I have no reason to believe they'll stop unless advertisers quit sponsoring them.

The guy from sales speaks. If somebody will buy it, do it - even if it drives away listeners. Listeners don't pay commissions.

The U of M speaks, home of a second-rate communications school. Concern about weather causes spikes. People with kids in school (a) don't listen to all news radio and (b) know how to get the information without waiting for some announcer to finally get to their school. All news listeners are outside the money demos, which means outside the reproductive demos - empty nesters and retirees. Even if all news radio does pick up a few of them, they are doing this by disrupting their regular programming and driving away regular listeners.
 
The guy from sales speaks. If somebody will buy it, do it - even if it drives away listeners. Listeners don't pay commissions.

The U of M speaks, home of a second-rate communications school. Concern about weather causes spikes. People with kids in school (a) don't listen to all news radio and (b) know how to get the information without waiting for some announcer to finally get to their school. All news listeners are outside the money demos, which means outside the reproductive demos - empty nesters and retirees. Even if all news radio does pick up a few of them, they are doing this by disrupting their regular programming and driving away regular listeners.
Unless you're on the road, school closings are best viewed as a chyron, on the local early morning TV news report. At least, that is what we do.
 
WLYV is one of two AM stations I never heard from Ft. Wayne. WGL 1250 even gets a little groundwave into Michigan. Can hear WKJG/WMEE or whatever it is this week on 1380 quite often at night. I received WANE-TV, WPTA-TV, and WKJG-TV quite often in the 1970s.

I listen to WWJ often for the traffic and weather together, and the traffic reports have gotten much better over the years with newer technology. Usually not fast enough to avoid the backup, but it's wise to tune in to avoid backups on I-75 from North of West Branch to Saginaw with Construction and Holiday Weekends. I was a able to avoid a huge backup once that way, finding out a good half hour North of West Branch.

When i was running the Powerside and Clear, you could hear it in Southwest MI. Just a little. Not much you can do with a class 4.
 
Re: WLYV

I heard them once, a couple of years ago, in Carleton, MI. I just happened to be in the right place at the right time when it faded up over the GY din for their ID. When I heard them, they called themselves "Redeemer Radio," and went into Catholic programming -- can't quite remember if it was EWTN or the Rosary.

--Eric B
Carleton, MI

WLYV is one of two AM stations I never heard from Ft. Wayne. WGL 1250 even gets a little groundwave into Michigan. Can hear WKJG/WMEE or whatever it is this week on 1380 quite often at night. I received WANE-TV, WPTA-TV, and WKJG-TV quite often in the 1970s.
 
That was a long time ago. I was at WLYV from very late 1965 until late 1966. I was one of the first brought in by Mike Joseph for the change to Top-40 on 1/1/66. I left there for WHLO. I used my real name on the air until I arrived in Detroit (CKLW, November 1971) and had to change it to Grant Hudson because there was already a James Reese at WJLB.

The original crew that Mike brought to Fort Wayne was Skinny Bobby Harper, Ron White, Ron Morgan, Bob Todd, Don Beckman and me. Harper, Morgan and Beckman have all since passed and the remaining three (White, Todd and me) are all living in Florida now. I see Bob Todd occasionally; Ron White and I meet for breakfast about once a month.

Hope it's not too late too chime in on this thread. First of all, Sarasota Jim, thanks for playing a significant role in the soundtrack of my youth at the Big 8. Secondly, although I occasionally butted heads with Ron White, he pretty much single-handedly led us to a #1 (25-54) book at WGLO Peoria in '90.
Having grown up near Ft. Wayne, I was uber impressed that Ron had worked at LYV. But, even though I mentioned to him that CKLW was my primary influence as a kid, he failed to mention that he had worked with you in Ft. Wayne. I think he owes you breakfast next time around!
 
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