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How to make something sound like it was on FM radio (Adobe Audition)

Long story short, I have some original material that I'd like to make sound as if it was broadcast on FM radio. Basically I want to make it sound like it was run through a typical audio processing chain, then sent to air and recorded off of an FM radio. I'm going to be using Adobe Audition for this project. Would greatly appreciate suggestions on how to do EQ/dynamics processing to give it that 'radio' sound. Thanks.
 
That's a good start, but keep in mind that the frequency response is different from FM radio to full digital. Is there some sort of way to effectively cut off (or attenuate) frequencies past 15 kHz?
 
You have a 15 band EQ under the effects menu.
 
I suggest SoundSolution...It runs inside WinAmp and you can either record the output or simply export a wav file from within WinAmp. So far, it's the best thing that I have found for the job, short of shelling out cash to Orban.

Emmett
 
Emmett said:
I suggest SoundSolution...It runs inside WinAmp and you can either record the output or simply export a wav file from within WinAmp. So far, it's the best thing that I have found for the job, short of shelling out cash to Orban.

Emmett

I used to use Sound Solution and it is garbage. If you want something REALLY good, get the Breakaway Processor, a free download for 30 days. Use the "Radio Magic" selection. It is a 6 band unit that is far superior to Sound Solutions, which pumps and destroys the human voice.
http://store.claessonedwards.com/product_p/live-001.htm
 
If it pumps, the release is too slow. The algorithm in SoundSolution is fine...Essentially as good as anything else. It does require some knowledge of compression to get the right sound. There are about 80 presets, none of which I like.

Emmett
 
Yes, to a certain degree you are right, but the problem is that it was not psychoacoustically designed. I could never get a good sound out of it due to its source coding. The Breakaway is a far superior product and sounds like a real processor. SS sounds ok on a computer, but you put it into good monitor speakers and it is awful, especially on the human voice. Very harsh.
 
What?! Not psychoacoustically designed? Do you know what you're saying? That doesn't make any sense. Every piece of audio gear and software is psychoacoustically designed. If it wasn't, it would serve no purpose. As I said, the algorithm is fine. I can make it null with any other plug-in, excluding COSM and convolved models. It's just an all in one. For a software-only solution, SS is more than fine. And it's fine on good monitor speakers. If you can't get good sounds from it, that's fine. But don't blame the algorithm.

Emmett
 
My friend, I once thought SS was a decent piece of software, but I started to look at it under the scope and REALLY listen and try to learn more about psychoacoustics. I suggest you read this full thread and get comments from people like Cornelius Gould, who is one of the world's foremost authorities on processing. As he told me in one of his comments, it is easy to make a basic limiter and add EQ to each band, but it is much more difficult to cross reference how all of that is processed inside our gray matter. Have you tried Breakaway, or other REAL processors? (And no, I don't mean Stereo Tool, either.) I have and can hear a major difference. I even purchased 100 settings for SS and while I came up with a modified hot setting that sounding decent on music, there was something "missing," and it sounded awful on voices. I don't have that problem with Breakaway. I was in your place a few months ago, but no longer.
http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,121140.0.html


http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,123567.0.html (Testimonial from a former Stereo Tool/SS user)
 
You're joking, right? Of course I have spent time with REAL processors. How REAL do you want it? Here's a shot of one of our studios: http://a294.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/61/l_8e8b7b66ec2644a0ee0557fa1581812d.jpg

And yes, Cornielius Gould's words might be worth something, if I cared anything about him. All I know is that he's an Omnia employee. I rely on people like George Massenburg and Russ Berger to learn. As I said, if it works for you, great! Use it! If you want to look at things "under the scope" and learn more about psychoacoustics, come spend a day with me. I spent four hours in a meeting yesterday with a physicist debating higher sample rates and discussing 32-bit floating point algorithms vs. 48 bit integer. Today, we're with Magic Dave Roberts, again discussing higher sample rates, but this time with a different angle. You were never "in my place", I assure you. If you want to get into psychoacoustics, I can go all day. But I think you had better learn something about psychoacoustics first.
 
elchupacabras said:
Yes, to a certain degree you are right, but the problem is that it was not psychoacoustically designed. I could never get a good sound out of it due to its source coding. The Breakaway is a far superior product and sounds like a real processor. SS sounds ok on a computer, but you put it into good monitor speakers and it is awful, especially on the human voice. Very harsh.

I agree. Breakaway is a GREAT product. I use it for processing on mobile DJ gigs, and plan to buy it for an internet radio station I'm working on.
 
"My friend (I love that..so condescending, yet polite)..nothing comes right in the same arena as a a good ol' Collins Mod-U-Minder..you give me that and one of those solid EV 664 "Buchannan Hammers" and a G.E. preamplifier all honked up on 12AX7s and 6AU6's and let her rip..toss in a couple of those blast furnace Altec Voice of the Theatre speakers and a big ass old Bogen power amp, and you don't need to record nuthhin'..It's gonna be so loud that you can talk and the world will hear it with thier ears bleedin'..Besides none of these announcers are worth the Shinola it takes to keep thier shoes clean if you ask me"

-Robert Ardner, Merideth Broadcasting..Syracuse, NY 1974-
 
Jeff Laurence said:
"My friend (I love that..so condescending, yet polite)..nothing comes right in the same arena as a a good ol' Collins Mod-U-Minder..you give me that and one of those solid EV 664 "Buchannan Hammers" and a G.E. preamplifier all honked up on 12AX7s and 6AU6's and let her rip..toss in a couple of those blast furnace Altec Voice of the Theatre speakers and a big ass old Bogen power amp, and you don't need to record nuthhin'..It's gonna be so loud that you can talk and the world will hear it with thier ears bleedin'..Besides none of these announcers are worth the Shinola it takes to keep thier shoes clean if you ask me"

-Robert Ardner, Merideth Broadcasting..Syracuse, NY 1974-

Regarding: Mr. Robert Ardner,


"There are two kinds of fools. One says-this is old and therefore good. The other says-this is new and therefore better."
 
CatfishJimPrewitt said:
Jeff Laurence said:
"My friend (I love that..so condescending, yet polite)..nothing comes right in the same arena as a a good ol' Collins Mod-U-Minder..you give me that and one of those solid EV 664 "Buchannan Hammers" and a G.E. preamplifier all honked up on 12AX7s and 6AU6's and let her rip..toss in a couple of those blast furnace Altec Voice of the Theatre speakers and a big ass old Bogen power amp, and you don't need to record nuthhin'..It's gonna be so loud that you can talk and the world will hear it with thier ears bleedin'..Besides none of these announcers are worth the Shinola it takes to keep thier shoes clean if you ask me"

-Robert Ardner, Merideth Broadcasting..Syracuse, NY 1974-

Regarding: Mr. Robert Ardner,


"There are two kinds of fools. One says-this is old and therefore good. The other says-this is new and therefore better."

That's wonderful!
 
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