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How To Pad Your Resume

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Scribbler

One of the claims to fame by Radio Equalizer/Brian Maloney (on the first page of his blog) is that he was "a 2005 Payne Award for Ethics in Journalism nominee."

If you go to the Payne Award web site...

http://payneawards.uoregon.edu/nominations.html

..you'll see how tough it is to win one of these coveted nominations.

"Journalists and outlets can nominate themselves or be nominated by a third party."

Honey, want to nominate me for a Payne Award?

No? OK, I'll do it myself.
 
Folks, I live in Seattle. Brian used to do talk shows on KIRO on the weekend. IMHO, boy did he suck! Not only was he pretty right wing, which I don't like but can forgive.

But he just was not very good at it. Could'nt hold a conversation to save his arse. So KIRO did well to can him.

But now even THEY have gotten cheap. The replaced Brian, and for a while kept local programming. Now they run "Moneytalk" on weekend afternoons. Even our beloved KIRO is cheaping out. And that is the saddest thing of all.

> One of the claims to fame by Radio Equalizer/Brian Maloney
> (on the first page of his blog) is that he was "a 2005 Payne
> Award for Ethics in Journalism nominee."
>
> If you go to the Payne Award web site...
>
> http://payneawards.uoregon.edu/nominations.html
>
> ..you'll see how tough it is to win one of these coveted
> nominations.
>
> "Journalists and outlets can nominate themselves or be
> nominated by a third party."
>
> Honey, want to nominate me for a Payne Award?
>
> No? OK, I'll do it myself.
>
 
>
> "Journalists and outlets can nominate themselves or be
> nominated by a third party."
>
> Honey, want to nominate me for a Payne Award?
>
> No? OK, I'll do it myself.
>

Any evidence to back it up? Otherwise you're moving into libel territory, pardner.
 
> >
> > "Journalists and outlets can nominate themselves or be
> > nominated by a third party."
> >
> > Honey, want to nominate me for a Payne Award?
> >
> > No? OK, I'll do it myself.
> >
>
> Any evidence to back it up? Otherwise you're moving into
> libel territory, pardner.

Any evidence to back up what? The point is that there's no expert panel that nominates people for this award. Anybody can nominate anybody, including himself. I could nominate my dog and then say, "My dog is a Payne Award Nominee."
>
 
> > >
> >
> > Any evidence to back it up? Otherwise you're moving into
> > libel territory, pardner.
>
> Any evidence to back up what? The point is that there's no
> expert panel that nominates people for this award. Anybody
> can nominate anybody, including himself. I could nominate
> my dog and then say, "My dog is a Payne Award Nominee."
> >
>

Your allegation/accusation has no basis in fact. Very slimy.
 
> > > >
> > >
> > > Any evidence to back it up? Otherwise you're moving into
>
> > > libel territory, pardner.
> >
> > Any evidence to back up what? The point is that there's
> no
> > expert panel that nominates people for this award.
> Anybody
> > can nominate anybody, including himself. I could nominate
>
> > my dog and then say, "My dog is a Payne Award Nominee."
> > >
> >
>
> Your allegation/accusation has no basis in fact. Very slimy.

I didn't make an "allegation/accusation." I merely pointed out that being "nominated" for this award is meaningless because anybody can nominate anybody. Who nominated him? His mother? Michelle Malkin? PW? It certainly wasn't his last employer, KIRO, which fired him last September.
 
Just because you nominate yourself, does not mean you win the award. You have to give them a letter that explains the decision-making process as to why you are nominating yourself (or why anyone is being nominated)...THEN the poeple at the Payne Award go through and select winners. They might not even consider your self nomination if they don't feel your entry is worthy. So this isn't as bad as you are making it look.

I had to submit my own entries to win an award in Production. It doesn't mean that you automatically win. It gives the judges an opportunity to find new talent worthy of awards. You might have a small town radio reporter that would never get noticed if he had to wait on someone else to nominate him. And they make the system a little more honest by saying that you can nominate yourself, because otherwise you would just have your friend nominate you anyway...

I got several complaints that this was an attack on Maloney, and while that MAY have been your intent...I think you failed, and made yourself look more ignorant. Did you speak with someone at the Payne Awards to find out how they select their winners? I doubt it. You are being selective with your research. Now, I'll be honest here and say I haven't called either, but having gone through a similar process, I think I can state the position fairly.

If someone want to call them and verify, be my guest.<P ID="signature">______________



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> Just because you nominate yourself, does not mean you win
> the award. You have to give them a letter that explains the
> decision-making process as to why you are nominating
> yourself (or why anyone is being nominated)...THEN the
> poeple at the Payne Award go through and select winners.
> They might not even consider your self nomination if they
> don't feel your entry is worthy. So this isn't as bad as you
> are making it look.
>
> I had to submit my own entries to win an award in
> Production. It doesn't mean that you automatically win.

Of course it "doesn't mean that you automatically win." I have no quarrel with the Payne Awards or the people who win them. If you win one of these awards you can justifiably and proudly put that fact on your resume, on your blog, etc. But the mere fact that you've applied for such an award is meaningless, since anybody can do it.

There's certainly no stigma attached to applying for a Payne Award, but there should be if you then misleadingly brag about the fact that you were "nominated."
 
> There's certainly no stigma attached to applying for a Payne
> Award, but there should be if you then misleadingly brag
> about the fact that you were "nominated."
>


Why...just because it was a self nomination? If someone wins based on the fact that it was a self nominated entry, should they qualify the win by saying they wouldn't have if they hadn't nominated themselves? Should I do so about my prod award? I'm not ashamed to say so, as I just clearly have, but I don't think everyone needs to qualify every award they have ever won.

And if he didn't win, but his nomination was accepted, even if t was a self-nominated entry, I don't think it matters. The POINT is that he did some work that was qualified (or that he felt was qualified) to be entered to win.

Most people don't seem to mind...why does it bother you so much?<P ID="signature">______________



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> > There's certainly no stigma attached to applying for a
> Payne
> > Award, but there should be if you then misleadingly brag
> > about the fact that you were "nominated."

>
> Why...just because it was a self nomination? If someone wins
> based on the fact that it was a self nominated entry, should
> they qualify the win by saying they wouldn't have if they
> hadn't nominated themselves? Should I do so about my prod
> award? I'm not ashamed to say so, as I just clearly have,
> but I don't think everyone needs to qualify every award they
> have ever won.
>
> And if he didn't win, but his nomination was accepted, even
> if t was a self-nominated entry, I don't think it matters.
> The POINT is that he did some work that was qualified (or
> that he felt was qualified) to be entered to win.
>
You're misreading what I wrote. As I said, if you apply for an award and you win, you should be justifiably proud of that fact. A panel of judges has found that your work deserves an award. It makes no difference how they found out about your work.

My point is that if you did NOT win an award, its misleading to say that you were "nominated," if all the nomination process involved was that you sent in an application (or somebody did it for you).

> Most people don't seem to mind...why does it bother you so
> much?

I don't think most people realized that Brian Monroney's "nomination" was meaningless. He hasn't won anything.
 
You make sense with that last post. Thanks for clarifying. But why is it misleading or wrong to say that a panel of judges has considered his work? Even if it's because he "brought his work to their attention"?<P ID="signature">______________



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> You make sense with that last post. Thanks for clarifying.
> But why is it misleading or wrong to say that a panel of
> judges has considered his work? Even if it's because he
> "brought his work to their attention"?

Where did I say that? But I don't know why you would want to say that a panel of judges had considered your work if they didn't give you an award (and all you had to do to be considered was to submit the work).

My point is that Maloney makes a big deal out of the fact that he was "nominated" for a Payne Award -- and that certainly leaves the impression that there was some sort of weeding-out process (like the nominating process for the Nobel Prizes or the Academy Awards), while the truth is that you can nominate yourself or have somebody else do it for you. Nothing wrong with that, but nothing to brag about -- UNLESS YOU WIN. Then brag away.

But Maloney hasn't won anything.
 
BRIAN MALONEY RESPONDS

Brian sent me this email, and with his permission I am posting it:

This is in regard to the posts at Radio-Info.com regarding my 2005 Payne
Award nomination.

I was informed by the staff that oversees the awards of the nomination, late
last year. They asked me to supply some personal information.

They wrote a letter supporting the nomination. Outside judges from
newspapers considered the nominations, and in the spring, chose another journalist for
the award.

I'm not clear why it's a topic for your forum.

------------------------------------------------
Brian Maloney


But you've made your point, even though most disagree. <P ID="signature">______________



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> But you've made your point, even though most disagree.
>
They "disagree" with what? So Maloney is saying that somebody (who?) nominated him, the awards staff asked him for more information, and he didn't get the award.

So?
 
Re: BRIAN MALONEY RESPONDS

> They "disagree" with what?

With your point of view...I receieved several complaints about this post.


> So?
>

So, Maloney's site isn't for YOUR benefit or enjoyment. You don't have to like or agree with what he has posted on it.

And, you've made your point. Agree to disagree and find something else to nit pick about now...lol. <P ID="signature">______________



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Some Perspective From An "Award Winner"

Many years ago I worked for a radio network where one of the executives had been shunted aside and put in charge of applying for awards. Her batting average wasn't very high, and some said that was because she was somehow fouling up the application process. I produced a few of the programs that she submitted to various award-givers and one of those shows actually won a fairly prestigious award.

I might include that award on a resume or web site, but I wouldn't dream of including the failed "nominations" by Ms. X. That just seems laughable to me.
 
Re: BRIAN MALONEY RESPONDS

> Brian sent me this email, and with his permission I am
> posting it:
>
> This is in regard to the posts at Radio-Info.com regarding
> my 2005 Payne
> Award nomination.

First, it amuses me that he couldn't post this himself. Let's face it - he probably read the original thread himself and considered it beneath him to reply directly.

> I was informed by the staff that oversees the awards of the
> nomination, late
> last year. They asked me to supply some personal
> information.
>
> They wrote a letter supporting the nomination. Outside
> judges from
> newspapers considered the nominations, and in the spring,
> chose another journalist for
> the award.

Does anyone else find these two paragraphs baffling? What's missing from this word salad is a denial that he nominated himself. That would be as clear as "I did not nominate myself." Any award that allows an individual to nominate oneself in the first place is automatically dubious. One would think such profound efforts in journalism would lead to at least one person on this mortal coil to nominate someone for such achievements.

More important, perhaps, is the obscurity of the award in the first place. I can't find a mention of it anywhere in the MSM news archives, and even the magic powers of Google bring about only a handful of references to this award on the web, most on the University of Oregon's own website.

> I'm not clear why it's a topic for your forum.

Since he proudly brandishes it on his website as some psuedo-legitimacy stamp, and then writes his heavily-opinionated "news" reports on the radio industry, I suppose that would be one reason.
 
Re: BRIAN MALONEY RESPONDS

> > They "disagree" with what?
>
> With your point of view...I receieved several complaints
> about this post.
>
>
> > So?
> >
>
> So, Maloney's site isn't for YOUR benefit or enjoyment. You
> don't have to like or agree with what he has posted on it.
>
> And, you've made your point. Agree to disagree and find
> something else to nit pick about now...lol.

In <a target="_blank" href=http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=518869&Board=newstalk>this post</a> you posted the e-mail from Mr. Maloney which ends with "I'm not clear why it's a topic for your forum." Of all the places on the Internet, this News/Talk Message Board really was the best place for Scribbler to question why Mr. Maloney nominated himself for an award. Even more importantly, he (Mr. Maloney) did that for something he did not win! Mr. Maloney is frequently a critic of Air America Radio, so it seems only fair that others have the right to see he (Mr. Maloney) stands up to critical examination ("nit picking") as well. It's a shame you didn't make Mr. Maloney post that e-mail on this board himself but then again he would have to face questions about what he writes about Air America Radio on his Web site.
 
Re: BRIAN MALONEY RESPONDS

> It's a shame you didn't make Mr. Maloney
> post that e-mail on this board himself but then again he
> would have to face questions about what he writes about Air
> America Radio on his Web site.
>

While I understand what you are saying...I have to ask: How could I make him post something on his website? (This is my sarcasm at play...no offense intended!)<P ID="signature">______________



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Re: BRIAN MALONEY RESPONDS

> > It's a shame you didn't make Mr. Maloney
> > post that e-mail on this board himself but then again he
> > would have to face questions about what he writes about
> Air
> > America Radio on his Web site.
> >
>
> While I understand what you are saying...I have to ask: How
> could I make him post something on his website? (This is my
> sarcasm at play...no offense intended!)
>
More importantly, why did you post that message for HIM, effectively creating a shield for him? Why didn't you ask him to post it himself and suffer the consequences?
 
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