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any one know how to Start a Radio Station in New York without a crazy investment.
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harry718 said:
There is no available frequency for either AM or FM in New York City. So that means that anyone who wants a station in the market has to buy an existing one. That's where the cost comes in. Even with today's economy and the issues facing radio, a station is going to be very expensive.
There might be a few AMs going for under $10 million (WWRL sold for the equivalent of $4 million in '89 before the power upgrade), nothing with full coverage will be that cheap. The purchase last year of 96.3 for a combination of cash and a lesser facility "trade in" establishes a benchmark of at least $60 for a full signal FM.
Of course, there are plenty of suburban stations that would be valued at less, but that is not the same as a true New York City station.
And everything assumes that anyone actually wants to sell a station. The other assumption is that you are asking about a commercial station, not an LPFM or non-com.
Or you could always do a live Internet stream, hit the WORLD, not just New York but you could give it that " local flavor" and it would be WAY cheaper than taking an existing AM/FM frequency.
Tony's right.
You don't need towers and transmitters today to do "radio." Look at Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, The Weather Channel, et. al.
The problem is, music licensing fees, lack of ready, willing and able sponsors to the Internet, and you still have a market of over 80 stations, not to mention hundreds of "Internet stations."
You'll need lots of experience to run any station and quite deep pockets. Getting an Internet station on properly may not cost as much a a terrestrial station, building or buying one. But if you're going to do it -- make good money doing so.
Good luck!
You don't need towers and transmitters today to do "radio." Look at Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, The Weather Channel, et. al.
The problem is, music licensing fees, lack of ready, willing and able sponsors to the Internet, and you still have a market of over 80 stations, not to mention hundreds of "Internet stations."
You'll need lots of experience to run any station and quite deep pockets. Getting an Internet station on properly may not cost as much a a terrestrial station, building or buying one. But if you're going to do it -- make good money doing so.
Good luck!
I agree with Oaktree on this one.
oaktree said:
I've always wondered how these work. For instance, were one to scout and recruit musical artists, sign them to a recording contract, and then produce and copyright their work, would he or she have to pay licensing fees to broadcast those recordings on his or her internet stream?
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InSearchOfGear
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Those positioned to actually make money doing this are currently losing their collective asses. If the goal is to make money, why would you even think about this pursuit in the first place?
Of course, the question is rhetorical. Some people, for whatever reason, have the need to prostletize. They aren't content to like what they like and if what they like is not mainstream, make it their personal mission to "educate the masses".
By all means, continue fantasizing about getting ahold of a frequency to "take your message to the uneducated masses". Your chance of success is below zero.
To everything there is a season. The original KTU triumphed with dance because the time was right. Hot 103/97 triumphed because the time was right. This assumption by you guys that people in the biz aren't paying attention and missing an opportunity is at worst arrogant, and at best misguided and uninformed.
I guarantee you, those who own and run radio stations for a living will be ready when dance comes around again, regardless of what you guys think.
Of course, the question is rhetorical. Some people, for whatever reason, have the need to prostletize. They aren't content to like what they like and if what they like is not mainstream, make it their personal mission to "educate the masses".
By all means, continue fantasizing about getting ahold of a frequency to "take your message to the uneducated masses". Your chance of success is below zero.
To everything there is a season. The original KTU triumphed with dance because the time was right. Hot 103/97 triumphed because the time was right. This assumption by you guys that people in the biz aren't paying attention and missing an opportunity is at worst arrogant, and at best misguided and uninformed.
I guarantee you, those who own and run radio stations for a living will be ready when dance comes around again, regardless of what you guys think.
InSearchOfGear said:
Butt-head: I'm angry with numbers.
Beavis: Yeah, there's like too many of them and stuff.
Learn how to do probability. Chance, by definition, is between 0 and 1.
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Brooklyndon said:
Mr. Slide Rule, your point is taken, but apparently you missed my point in the first place. That could give you an I.Q. below zero.
Get it? ;-)
Sorry DToTheJ, I posted this right before you gave that Facebook link! LOL. But I have to note this quote:
How did this conversation get into dance music? I believe that the person, who started this thread, was looking for a frequency somewhere and didn't specifically say which format.
OH!!! But I do get it. You want to knock down on some folks, specifically ME.
And in certain ways, all these threads on dance as of late (which WERE started by someone else) are getting rather tiring because you can SENSE the ignorance in some of the responses. But I digress, since we are ON the topic of dance music since you brought this up, what has to happen actually HAS NOTHING to do with radio. Radio is just an "avenue", like all other media. That's why for all intents and purposes, I'm going a different direction with this.
I'm doing it anyway and won't stop. It's going to take more than words to stop me. So....."have at it".
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InSearchOfGear said:
How did this conversation get into dance music? I believe that the person, who started this thread, was looking for a frequency somewhere and didn't specifically say which format.
OH!!! But I do get it. You want to knock down on some folks, specifically ME.
And in certain ways, all these threads on dance as of late (which WERE started by someone else) are getting rather tiring because you can SENSE the ignorance in some of the responses. But I digress, since we are ON the topic of dance music since you brought this up, what has to happen actually HAS NOTHING to do with radio. Radio is just an "avenue", like all other media. That's why for all intents and purposes, I'm going a different direction with this.
I'm doing it anyway and won't stop. It's going to take more than words to stop me. So....."have at it".
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Morpheux said:
Where has it come back, and what overgrown slobs are you referring to?
Tony, we know there's no stopping you. You're on a mission from God, right? ;-)
InSearchOfGear said:
I don't know if God has anything to do with this, but yeah, I'm on a mission, lol
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