How was the storm coverage over in IA City/CR last night??
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How was the coverage in E. IA last night???
- Thread starter radiorobert
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> How was the storm coverage over in IA City/CR last night??
>
KCRG did a very good job, outside of some guy fooling them by freezing some water and sending them a picture pretending it was hail. Good weather coverage (as usual) and sufficent news coverage of the damage in Iowa City. It took them some time to get video up from the scene, but they seemed to be the first to do so. Some of the reporting was pretty, um, interesting. The Dairy Queen on Riverside was downed, and six people had to hide in the basement, including a family of four who happened to be in the restaurant at the time. The reporter's line: "Now this family doesn't know where it will get it's ice cream." Their anchors stumbled in places, but that is obviously understandable considering they were putting everything together 'on the fly.'
KWWL did a nice job with weather coverage, but had almost no news coverage (at least until well into the 10pm newscast) to supliment that. I saw no video or even call-in reports from Iowa City at all last night, and while KCRG stayed with news coverage after 10:30, KWWL went to the Tonight Show, which I thought was too bad. They were at a disadvantage being a larger distance away, and while they stayed with coverage for the entire newscast, what they had was considerably less.
KGAN had the most minimal coverage, only spending a portion of their 10pm news on the storm.
>
KCRG did a very good job, outside of some guy fooling them by freezing some water and sending them a picture pretending it was hail. Good weather coverage (as usual) and sufficent news coverage of the damage in Iowa City. It took them some time to get video up from the scene, but they seemed to be the first to do so. Some of the reporting was pretty, um, interesting. The Dairy Queen on Riverside was downed, and six people had to hide in the basement, including a family of four who happened to be in the restaurant at the time. The reporter's line: "Now this family doesn't know where it will get it's ice cream." Their anchors stumbled in places, but that is obviously understandable considering they were putting everything together 'on the fly.'
KWWL did a nice job with weather coverage, but had almost no news coverage (at least until well into the 10pm newscast) to supliment that. I saw no video or even call-in reports from Iowa City at all last night, and while KCRG stayed with news coverage after 10:30, KWWL went to the Tonight Show, which I thought was too bad. They were at a disadvantage being a larger distance away, and while they stayed with coverage for the entire newscast, what they had was considerably less.
KGAN had the most minimal coverage, only spending a portion of their 10pm news on the storm.
I noticed KGAN's website has only an official AP story about the storm. Pretty bad considering they are a local station! In fact, as bad as IA city has been hit it's pretty upsetting that they don't have something more on there. It's sad when DSM and Waterloo stations have better coverage than a local one, not to mention better in-depth national coverage on CNN and Fox.
KCRG looks to be on top of it. Chopper shots of downtown IA city and extensive video. Looks like KWWL doing a pretty good job too.
> > How was the storm coverage over in IA City/CR last night??
>
> >
>
>
> KCRG did a very good job, outside of some guy fooling them
> by freezing some water and sending them a picture pretending
> it was hail. Good weather coverage (as usual) and sufficent
> news coverage of the damage in Iowa City. It took them some
> time to get video up from the scene, but they seemed to be
> the first to do so. Some of the reporting was pretty, um,
> interesting. The Dairy Queen on Riverside was downed, and
> six people had to hide in the basement, including a family
> of four who happened to be in the restaurant at the time.
> The reporter's line: "Now this family doesn't know where it
> will get it's ice cream." Their anchors stumbled in places,
> but that is obviously understandable considering they were
> putting everything together 'on the fly.'
>
> KWWL did a nice job with weather coverage, but had almost no
> news coverage (at least until well into the 10pm newscast)
> to supliment that. I saw no video or even call-in reports
> from Iowa City at all last night, and while KCRG stayed with
> news coverage after 10:30, KWWL went to the Tonight Show,
> which I thought was too bad. They were at a disadvantage
> being a larger distance away, and while they stayed with
> coverage for the entire newscast, what they had was
> considerably less.
>
> KGAN had the most minimal coverage, only spending a portion
> of their 10pm news on the storm.
>
KCRG looks to be on top of it. Chopper shots of downtown IA city and extensive video. Looks like KWWL doing a pretty good job too.
> > How was the storm coverage over in IA City/CR last night??
>
> >
>
>
> KCRG did a very good job, outside of some guy fooling them
> by freezing some water and sending them a picture pretending
> it was hail. Good weather coverage (as usual) and sufficent
> news coverage of the damage in Iowa City. It took them some
> time to get video up from the scene, but they seemed to be
> the first to do so. Some of the reporting was pretty, um,
> interesting. The Dairy Queen on Riverside was downed, and
> six people had to hide in the basement, including a family
> of four who happened to be in the restaurant at the time.
> The reporter's line: "Now this family doesn't know where it
> will get it's ice cream." Their anchors stumbled in places,
> but that is obviously understandable considering they were
> putting everything together 'on the fly.'
>
> KWWL did a nice job with weather coverage, but had almost no
> news coverage (at least until well into the 10pm newscast)
> to supliment that. I saw no video or even call-in reports
> from Iowa City at all last night, and while KCRG stayed with
> news coverage after 10:30, KWWL went to the Tonight Show,
> which I thought was too bad. They were at a disadvantage
> being a larger distance away, and while they stayed with
> coverage for the entire newscast, what they had was
> considerably less.
>
> KGAN had the most minimal coverage, only spending a portion
> of their 10pm news on the storm.
>
Captain Steve had great live coverage on KCJJ last night, with Jeff the Sewerman calling in as a spotter driving around assessing the damage right as it was happening. KXIC's coverage was predictibly mediocre. Kudos to the local station for truly serving the public interest and actually having people to report and advise.
KGAN had coverage for about an hour and a half. They broke in during Survivor and stayed on until shortly after 9. KWWL made good use of their digital platform. The live coverage on analog channel 7 was simulcast on the Weather Plus digital channel 7-2. Those that were in the north and can get KWWL-HD 7-1 had the option of going there for regular NBC programming.
1
17meters
Guest
> KGAN had coverage for about an hour and a half. They broke
> in during Survivor and stayed on until shortly after 9.
> KWWL made good use of their digital platform. The live
> coverage on analog channel 7 was simulcast on the Weather
> Plus digital channel 7-2. Those that were in the north and
> can get KWWL-HD 7-1 had the option of going there for
> regular NBC programming.
>
I dont see any mentions of WMT-AM. Did they not do any coverage?
> in during Survivor and stayed on until shortly after 9.
> KWWL made good use of their digital platform. The live
> coverage on analog channel 7 was simulcast on the Weather
> Plus digital channel 7-2. Those that were in the north and
> can get KWWL-HD 7-1 had the option of going there for
> regular NBC programming.
>
I dont see any mentions of WMT-AM. Did they not do any coverage?
> > KGAN had coverage for about an hour and a half. They
> broke
> > in during Survivor and stayed on until shortly after 9.
> > KWWL made good use of their digital platform. The live
> > coverage on analog channel 7 was simulcast on the Weather
> > Plus digital channel 7-2. Those that were in the north
> and
> > can get KWWL-HD 7-1 had the option of going there for
> > regular NBC programming.
> >
> I dont see any mentions of WMT-AM. Did they not do any
> coverage?
>
They simulcasted KWWL's coverage.
> broke
> > in during Survivor and stayed on until shortly after 9.
> > KWWL made good use of their digital platform. The live
> > coverage on analog channel 7 was simulcast on the Weather
> > Plus digital channel 7-2. Those that were in the north
> and
> > can get KWWL-HD 7-1 had the option of going there for
> > regular NBC programming.
> >
> I dont see any mentions of WMT-AM. Did they not do any
> coverage?
>
They simulcasted KWWL's coverage.
> > I dont see any mentions of WMT-AM. Did they not do any
> > coverage?
> >
> They simulcasted KWWL's coverage.
>
That's not entirely true. They actually mixed between local coverage and weather coverage. They had Randy Lee, Bob Bruce (came back to the studio), Andy Peterson (already on the air), John Swisher, Ryan Schlater, Justin Roberts, and Nick Weig (sp?) covering the storm. Ryan and Andy headed down to Iowa City to report on damage, Justin and Bob hit CR and Anamosa. Randy and Nick handled the studio taking calls from the other guys and taking listener reports of damage and weather conditions. They also reported warnings and what the weather was reporting. When the storm hit Linn County WMT AM simulcast on WMT FM, they did intercut with KWWL primarily when they needed more meteorological analysis. I will give WMT credit, they do go all out during this type of weather. WMT AM stayed on coverage until about 1030-11pm.
> > coverage?
> >
> They simulcasted KWWL's coverage.
>
That's not entirely true. They actually mixed between local coverage and weather coverage. They had Randy Lee, Bob Bruce (came back to the studio), Andy Peterson (already on the air), John Swisher, Ryan Schlater, Justin Roberts, and Nick Weig (sp?) covering the storm. Ryan and Andy headed down to Iowa City to report on damage, Justin and Bob hit CR and Anamosa. Randy and Nick handled the studio taking calls from the other guys and taking listener reports of damage and weather conditions. They also reported warnings and what the weather was reporting. When the storm hit Linn County WMT AM simulcast on WMT FM, they did intercut with KWWL primarily when they needed more meteorological analysis. I will give WMT credit, they do go all out during this type of weather. WMT AM stayed on coverage until about 1030-11pm.
> > How was the storm coverage over in IA City/CR last night??
>
> >
>
>
> KCRG did a very good job, outside of some guy fooling them
> by freezing some water and sending them a picture pretending
> it was hail. Good weather coverage (as usual) and sufficent
> news coverage of the damage in Iowa City. It took them some
> time to get video up from the scene, but they seemed to be
> the first to do so. Some of the reporting was pretty, um,
> interesting. The Dairy Queen on Riverside was downed, and
> six people had to hide in the basement, including a family
> of four who happened to be in the restaurant at the time.
> The reporter's line: "Now this family doesn't know where it
> will get it's ice cream." Their anchors stumbled in places,
> but that is obviously understandable considering they were
> putting everything together 'on the fly.'
>
> KWWL did a nice job with weather coverage, but had almost no
> news coverage (at least until well into the 10pm newscast)
> to supliment that. I saw no video or even call-in reports
> from Iowa City at all last night, and while KCRG stayed with
> news coverage after 10:30,
Yes. Unfortunately at 10:30 the news coverage was of John Campbell going turkey hunting.
I was shocked none of the local newscasts went past 10:35pm. KCRG has an Iowa City studio a block from the worst damage and didn't show any of it until the next morning. (They might have shown the Dairy Queen and some of the stuff on Highway One West. But once they went to the Friends rerun I switched to the Public Access channel, whose video that night was better than anything I've STILL seen on the broadcast channels.)
It seemed like all the shots on the broadcast channels the next morning were closeups of busted out windows and overturned cars. PATV had some outstanding wide shots and moving shots that showed the thouands of students wandering around the streets, which was a big part of the story ignored by the other channels Thursday night.
The Daily Iowan did a great job, constantly updating stories and adding photos and video on their web site throughout the night and sending e-mail updates (they still are, in fact...the latest is on the victims taking issue with Sally Peterson while she was touring the rubble).
I'm also surprised there wasn't more mention of the looting. A quick look at the on-line Iowa City Police web site shows you where it was and who got arrested. It was minor, but it was there.
Even at the press conference Friday afternoon, FEMA was still not sure. I came away from that thing Friday with a better understanding of how Katrina recovery got botched.
Oh, and GOD BLESS JEFF WAITE! You can take your satellite trucks and fancy-pants uplink technology..give me a crazy plumber with a cell phone and no regard for his own safety any day!
(In fairness, I should concede that it was my live reporting from downtown that gave us the only audible "F-Bomb" of the evening...)
>
> >
>
>
> KCRG did a very good job, outside of some guy fooling them
> by freezing some water and sending them a picture pretending
> it was hail. Good weather coverage (as usual) and sufficent
> news coverage of the damage in Iowa City. It took them some
> time to get video up from the scene, but they seemed to be
> the first to do so. Some of the reporting was pretty, um,
> interesting. The Dairy Queen on Riverside was downed, and
> six people had to hide in the basement, including a family
> of four who happened to be in the restaurant at the time.
> The reporter's line: "Now this family doesn't know where it
> will get it's ice cream." Their anchors stumbled in places,
> but that is obviously understandable considering they were
> putting everything together 'on the fly.'
>
> KWWL did a nice job with weather coverage, but had almost no
> news coverage (at least until well into the 10pm newscast)
> to supliment that. I saw no video or even call-in reports
> from Iowa City at all last night, and while KCRG stayed with
> news coverage after 10:30,
Yes. Unfortunately at 10:30 the news coverage was of John Campbell going turkey hunting.
I was shocked none of the local newscasts went past 10:35pm. KCRG has an Iowa City studio a block from the worst damage and didn't show any of it until the next morning. (They might have shown the Dairy Queen and some of the stuff on Highway One West. But once they went to the Friends rerun I switched to the Public Access channel, whose video that night was better than anything I've STILL seen on the broadcast channels.)
It seemed like all the shots on the broadcast channels the next morning were closeups of busted out windows and overturned cars. PATV had some outstanding wide shots and moving shots that showed the thouands of students wandering around the streets, which was a big part of the story ignored by the other channels Thursday night.
The Daily Iowan did a great job, constantly updating stories and adding photos and video on their web site throughout the night and sending e-mail updates (they still are, in fact...the latest is on the victims taking issue with Sally Peterson while she was touring the rubble).
I'm also surprised there wasn't more mention of the looting. A quick look at the on-line Iowa City Police web site shows you where it was and who got arrested. It was minor, but it was there.
Even at the press conference Friday afternoon, FEMA was still not sure. I came away from that thing Friday with a better understanding of how Katrina recovery got botched.
Oh, and GOD BLESS JEFF WAITE! You can take your satellite trucks and fancy-pants uplink technology..give me a crazy plumber with a cell phone and no regard for his own safety any day!
(In fairness, I should concede that it was my live reporting from downtown that gave us the only audible "F-Bomb" of the evening...)
B
bmv_1978
Guest
> > How was the storm coverage over in IA City/CR last night??
>
> >
>
>
> KCRG did a very good job, outside of some guy fooling them
> by freezing some water and sending them a picture pretending
> it was hail. Good weather coverage (as usual) and sufficent
> news coverage of the damage in Iowa City. It took them some
> time to get video up from the scene, but they seemed to be
> the first to do so. Some of the reporting was pretty, um,
> interesting. The Dairy Queen on Riverside was downed, and
> six people had to hide in the basement, including a family
> of four who happened to be in the restaurant at the time.
> The reporter's line: "Now this family doesn't know where it
> will get it's ice cream." Their anchors stumbled in places,
> but that is obviously understandable considering they were
> putting everything together 'on the fly.'
>
> KWWL did a nice job with weather coverage, but had almost no
> news coverage (at least until well into the 10pm newscast)
> to supliment that. I saw no video or even call-in reports
> from Iowa City at all last night, and while KCRG stayed with
> news coverage after 10:30, KWWL went to the Tonight Show,
> which I thought was too bad. They were at a disadvantage
> being a larger distance away, and while they stayed with
> coverage for the entire newscast, what they had was
> considerably less.
>
> KGAN had the most minimal coverage, only spending a portion
> of their 10pm news on the storm.
>
KWWL has a bureau in downtown Cedar Rapids in the Alliant Energy building, I believe. They should really have been able to compete with KCRG better than that. I always would have thought that they would since it was obviously the top story of the night Thursday night. Also, Jessica McAninch is a very good reporter (if she's still there at the KWWL CR Bureau). However, Davenport/Quad Cities NBC affiliate KWQC TV 6 did in fact stay on with the coverage all throughout the prime time portion of the evening and well into the 10 pm newscast but I went to bed at about 10:15 Thursday night and stopped watching it then. However, the next day, Friday April 14th, KWQC was still live in Iowa City during their 5, 6, and 10 pm newscasts with coverage of the cleanup efforts from the storm that day. The only person I remember seeing in their studio on Friday night was meteorologist Terry Swails with the Friday evening forecasts that night. It almost sounds like the opposite of normal has occured here. KWQC usually focuses on the immediate Quad Cities and surrounding areas for news, and Iowa City news and events rarely ever get coverage from KWQC, unless of course, it's the Iowa Hawkeyes, and KWQC TV-6 has for many years claimed to be the Quad Cities' "Home of the Hawks."
"KGAN had the most minimal coverage, only spending a portion of their 10pm news on the storm." Surprise, Surprise. I remember from when I used to live in the Waterloo area all the talk about how KGAN often times seemed to have the worst news coverage in the Waterloo-Cedar Rapids-Dubuque-Iowa City TV market. I guess it's no surprise in this situation either.
>
> >
>
>
> KCRG did a very good job, outside of some guy fooling them
> by freezing some water and sending them a picture pretending
> it was hail. Good weather coverage (as usual) and sufficent
> news coverage of the damage in Iowa City. It took them some
> time to get video up from the scene, but they seemed to be
> the first to do so. Some of the reporting was pretty, um,
> interesting. The Dairy Queen on Riverside was downed, and
> six people had to hide in the basement, including a family
> of four who happened to be in the restaurant at the time.
> The reporter's line: "Now this family doesn't know where it
> will get it's ice cream." Their anchors stumbled in places,
> but that is obviously understandable considering they were
> putting everything together 'on the fly.'
>
> KWWL did a nice job with weather coverage, but had almost no
> news coverage (at least until well into the 10pm newscast)
> to supliment that. I saw no video or even call-in reports
> from Iowa City at all last night, and while KCRG stayed with
> news coverage after 10:30, KWWL went to the Tonight Show,
> which I thought was too bad. They were at a disadvantage
> being a larger distance away, and while they stayed with
> coverage for the entire newscast, what they had was
> considerably less.
>
> KGAN had the most minimal coverage, only spending a portion
> of their 10pm news on the storm.
>
KWWL has a bureau in downtown Cedar Rapids in the Alliant Energy building, I believe. They should really have been able to compete with KCRG better than that. I always would have thought that they would since it was obviously the top story of the night Thursday night. Also, Jessica McAninch is a very good reporter (if she's still there at the KWWL CR Bureau). However, Davenport/Quad Cities NBC affiliate KWQC TV 6 did in fact stay on with the coverage all throughout the prime time portion of the evening and well into the 10 pm newscast but I went to bed at about 10:15 Thursday night and stopped watching it then. However, the next day, Friday April 14th, KWQC was still live in Iowa City during their 5, 6, and 10 pm newscasts with coverage of the cleanup efforts from the storm that day. The only person I remember seeing in their studio on Friday night was meteorologist Terry Swails with the Friday evening forecasts that night. It almost sounds like the opposite of normal has occured here. KWQC usually focuses on the immediate Quad Cities and surrounding areas for news, and Iowa City news and events rarely ever get coverage from KWQC, unless of course, it's the Iowa Hawkeyes, and KWQC TV-6 has for many years claimed to be the Quad Cities' "Home of the Hawks."
"KGAN had the most minimal coverage, only spending a portion of their 10pm news on the storm." Surprise, Surprise. I remember from when I used to live in the Waterloo area all the talk about how KGAN often times seemed to have the worst news coverage in the Waterloo-Cedar Rapids-Dubuque-Iowa City TV market. I guess it's no surprise in this situation either.
J
JonEllis
Guest
> I was shocked none of the local newscasts went past 10:35pm.
Actually, KCRG was on the air until nearly 11 as more video and info came in, including UI cancelling classes right before 11.
> KCRG has an Iowa City studio a block from the worst damage
> and didn't show any of it until the next morning.
A power outage at the studio prevented any video from being fed through the fixed feed system, and lightning made it too dangerous to put up the live truck's microwave mast to feed video. Unfortunately, the satellite truck is kept in Cedar Rapids and the CR-based staff had to head east and west to cover other storms and could not drive down the sat truck. All the video had to be driven back to Cedar Rapids through the gawkers.
> It seemed like all the shots on the broadcast channels the
> next morning were closeups of busted out windows and
> overturned cars.
Newscopter9 was live over Iowa City during Good Morning America.
Actually, KCRG was on the air until nearly 11 as more video and info came in, including UI cancelling classes right before 11.
> KCRG has an Iowa City studio a block from the worst damage
> and didn't show any of it until the next morning.
A power outage at the studio prevented any video from being fed through the fixed feed system, and lightning made it too dangerous to put up the live truck's microwave mast to feed video. Unfortunately, the satellite truck is kept in Cedar Rapids and the CR-based staff had to head east and west to cover other storms and could not drive down the sat truck. All the video had to be driven back to Cedar Rapids through the gawkers.
> It seemed like all the shots on the broadcast channels the
> next morning were closeups of busted out windows and
> overturned cars.
Newscopter9 was live over Iowa City during Good Morning America.
> > I was shocked none of the local newscasts went past
> 10:35pm.
>
> Actually, KCRG was on the air until nearly 11 as more video
> and info came in, including UI cancelling classes right
> before 11.
Really? They must have come back on later then. Because I remember the sportscast going on as normal, followed by the start of Friends. That's when we flipped around and foud PATV's coverage (which is now on-line at http://www.mytwb.com/tornado.html).
>
> > KCRG has an Iowa City studio a block from the worst
> damage
> > and didn't show any of it until the next morning.
>
> A power outage at the studio prevented any video from being
> fed through the fixed feed system, and lightning made it too
> dangerous to put up the live truck's microwave mast to feed
> video. Unfortunately, the satellite truck is kept in Cedar
> Rapids and the CR-based staff had to head east and west to
> cover other storms and could not drive down the sat truck.
> All the video had to be driven back to Cedar Rapids through
> the gawkers.
The lightning was pretty much done by 10:30pm.
And I'm surprised they don't have any generators at that new IC facility. Hopefully this will be a wakeup call to management.
>
> > It seemed like all the shots on the broadcast channels the
>
> > next morning were closeups of busted out windows and
> > overturned cars.
>
> Newscopter9 was live over Iowa City during Good Morning
> America.
>
And those were great exclusive shots. Unfortunately they were about 8 hours after the fact. All the students had gone home by then, and it was the shots of the thousands of people filling downtown I was talking about.
In fairness KCRG did better than their TV counterparts (except PATV).
What I found REALLY funny was how the Press-Citizen was all upset because they weren't the first priority when it came to getting information out:
http://www.press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060416/OPINION03/604160303/1018/OPINION
The communication was GREAT to the live broadcast media. I don't blame emergency mangement officials for giving priority to the live, broadcast media over a paper which won't be going out for another 7 or 8 hours. You can push back a deadline in a case like this.
> 10:35pm.
>
> Actually, KCRG was on the air until nearly 11 as more video
> and info came in, including UI cancelling classes right
> before 11.
Really? They must have come back on later then. Because I remember the sportscast going on as normal, followed by the start of Friends. That's when we flipped around and foud PATV's coverage (which is now on-line at http://www.mytwb.com/tornado.html).
>
> > KCRG has an Iowa City studio a block from the worst
> damage
> > and didn't show any of it until the next morning.
>
> A power outage at the studio prevented any video from being
> fed through the fixed feed system, and lightning made it too
> dangerous to put up the live truck's microwave mast to feed
> video. Unfortunately, the satellite truck is kept in Cedar
> Rapids and the CR-based staff had to head east and west to
> cover other storms and could not drive down the sat truck.
> All the video had to be driven back to Cedar Rapids through
> the gawkers.
The lightning was pretty much done by 10:30pm.
And I'm surprised they don't have any generators at that new IC facility. Hopefully this will be a wakeup call to management.
>
> > It seemed like all the shots on the broadcast channels the
>
> > next morning were closeups of busted out windows and
> > overturned cars.
>
> Newscopter9 was live over Iowa City during Good Morning
> America.
>
And those were great exclusive shots. Unfortunately they were about 8 hours after the fact. All the students had gone home by then, and it was the shots of the thousands of people filling downtown I was talking about.
In fairness KCRG did better than their TV counterparts (except PATV).
What I found REALLY funny was how the Press-Citizen was all upset because they weren't the first priority when it came to getting information out:
http://www.press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060416/OPINION03/604160303/1018/OPINION
The communication was GREAT to the live broadcast media. I don't blame emergency mangement officials for giving priority to the live, broadcast media over a paper which won't be going out for another 7 or 8 hours. You can push back a deadline in a case like this.
J
JonEllis
Guest
> Really? They must have come back on later then.
I am the producer of KCRG-TV9 News at 10 and I can tell you that we were, in fact, in news coverage (with breaks) until 10:56. The sports segment (with a storm update immediately before it) bought us more time to get video in house. Friends did not start until 10:59.
> The lightning was pretty much done by 10:30pm.
By 10:30, the tapes were either in CR already or almost there.
> And those were great exclusive shots. Unfortunately they
> were about 8 hours after the fact.
Unfortunately, when storms hit at night, you can't really see the full extent of the damage on camera until the next morning. Things need to be lit to see them on camera, and it's impossible to light a whole building in a breaking news situation.
I am the producer of KCRG-TV9 News at 10 and I can tell you that we were, in fact, in news coverage (with breaks) until 10:56. The sports segment (with a storm update immediately before it) bought us more time to get video in house. Friends did not start until 10:59.
> The lightning was pretty much done by 10:30pm.
By 10:30, the tapes were either in CR already or almost there.
> And those were great exclusive shots. Unfortunately they
> were about 8 hours after the fact.
Unfortunately, when storms hit at night, you can't really see the full extent of the damage on camera until the next morning. Things need to be lit to see them on camera, and it's impossible to light a whole building in a breaking news situation.
> > Really? They must have come back on later then.
>
> I am the producer of KCRG-TV9 News at 10 and I can tell you
> that we were, in fact, in news coverage (with breaks) until
> 10:56. The sports segment (with a storm update immediately
> before it) bought us more time to get video in house.
> Friends did not start until 10:59.
>
Okay, so you went until 11pm. I guess I didn't look at the clock, and just assumed when I saw a segment on turkey hunting that it was 10:30.
PATV was on until 2am as video continued to come in. 25 minutes over isn't a lot.
> > The lightning was pretty much done by 10:30pm.
>
> By 10:30, the tapes were either in CR already or almost
> there.
If those were the tapes I saw before that sportscast, they were a bit...subpar. I'm surprised you didn't keep it going past 11pm since the microwave trucks were then safe for use.
> > And those were great exclusive shots. Unfortunately they
> > were about 8 hours after the fact.
>
> Unfortunately, when storms hit at night, you can't really
> see the full extent of the damage on camera until the next
> morning. Things need to be lit to see them on camera, and
> it's impossible to light a whole building in a breaking news
> situation.
From the sky, no. From the street, you can. Especially when the power wasn't knocked out, as was the case downtown. (Check out the PATV video if you don't believe me.)
No doubt KCRG is the top news station in the market in my mind, and your people generally do a top-notch job. I just feel you guys dropped the ball a little bit here.
I'd elaborate more, but I just spent too much time writing about it on my MySpace blog. (Did I just WRITE that???)
>
> I am the producer of KCRG-TV9 News at 10 and I can tell you
> that we were, in fact, in news coverage (with breaks) until
> 10:56. The sports segment (with a storm update immediately
> before it) bought us more time to get video in house.
> Friends did not start until 10:59.
>
Okay, so you went until 11pm. I guess I didn't look at the clock, and just assumed when I saw a segment on turkey hunting that it was 10:30.
PATV was on until 2am as video continued to come in. 25 minutes over isn't a lot.
> > The lightning was pretty much done by 10:30pm.
>
> By 10:30, the tapes were either in CR already or almost
> there.
If those were the tapes I saw before that sportscast, they were a bit...subpar. I'm surprised you didn't keep it going past 11pm since the microwave trucks were then safe for use.
> > And those were great exclusive shots. Unfortunately they
> > were about 8 hours after the fact.
>
> Unfortunately, when storms hit at night, you can't really
> see the full extent of the damage on camera until the next
> morning. Things need to be lit to see them on camera, and
> it's impossible to light a whole building in a breaking news
> situation.
From the sky, no. From the street, you can. Especially when the power wasn't knocked out, as was the case downtown. (Check out the PATV video if you don't believe me.)
No doubt KCRG is the top news station in the market in my mind, and your people generally do a top-notch job. I just feel you guys dropped the ball a little bit here.
I'd elaborate more, but I just spent too much time writing about it on my MySpace blog. (Did I just WRITE that???)
KCRG and the other broadcast networks did a real disservice to the Johnson County community by rejoining regular programming when the 10pm News ended.
None of them gave viewers any real idea of the extent of the damage in Johnson County.
All we knew was that Menards and St. Pats had lost part of their roofs, and that Dairy Queen was gone, and "where would we get our ice cream now".
Thank God for Bradman and PATV. They were obviously the only TV network that cared enough to bring continuous updates, live phone calls from victims, witnesses, and public officials.
KCJJ did a great job also.
KXIC went to their national programming.
WMT did a good, not great, job of informing those of us who knew next to nothing.
The local broadcast TV networks should be ashamed, and they should be called out, for their lack of commitment to continuous updates for local residents.
Shame on you JonEllis. Shame on your staff's decision making.
We have come to trust your station, and you let us down severely.
None of them gave viewers any real idea of the extent of the damage in Johnson County.
All we knew was that Menards and St. Pats had lost part of their roofs, and that Dairy Queen was gone, and "where would we get our ice cream now".
Thank God for Bradman and PATV. They were obviously the only TV network that cared enough to bring continuous updates, live phone calls from victims, witnesses, and public officials.
KCJJ did a great job also.
KXIC went to their national programming.
WMT did a good, not great, job of informing those of us who knew next to nothing.
The local broadcast TV networks should be ashamed, and they should be called out, for their lack of commitment to continuous updates for local residents.
Shame on you JonEllis. Shame on your staff's decision making.
We have come to trust your station, and you let us down severely.
D
DiscoJon
Guest
> KCRG and the other broadcast networks did a real disservice
> to the Johnson County community by rejoining regular
> programming when the 10pm News ended.
>
> None of them gave viewers any real idea of the extent of the
> damage in Johnson County.
>
> All we knew was that Menards and St. Pats had lost part of
> their roofs, and that Dairy Queen was gone, and "where would
> we get our ice cream now".
>
> Thank God for Bradman and PATV. They were obviously the only
> TV network that cared enough to bring continuous updates,
> live phone calls from victims, witnesses, and public
> officials.
>
> KCJJ did a great job also.
>
> KXIC went to their national programming.
>
> WMT did a good, not great, job of informing those of us who
> knew next to nothing.
>
> The local broadcast TV networks should be ashamed, and they
> should be called out, for their lack of commitment to
> continuous updates for local residents.
>
> Shame on you JonEllis. Shame on your staff's decision
> making.
> We have come to trust your station, and you let us down
> severely.
>
So tell me... what more was KCRG TV to do???? I am in no way affiliated with KCRG and am just wondering what more they are supposed to do? Some times you have to come back in the morning and help put the story together. It was late in the evening when they stopped the broadcasting about the storm but by no means did they forget about it. Do you really want the News to be in the way of emergency workers trying to do there job??? Heck, Josh Baines was calling out tornados even before the National Weather Service was issuing a Tornado Warning!!! So now TV-9 is the bad guy??? Would talking with more victims until 1 AM really help matters??? Just wondering...
> to the Johnson County community by rejoining regular
> programming when the 10pm News ended.
>
> None of them gave viewers any real idea of the extent of the
> damage in Johnson County.
>
> All we knew was that Menards and St. Pats had lost part of
> their roofs, and that Dairy Queen was gone, and "where would
> we get our ice cream now".
>
> Thank God for Bradman and PATV. They were obviously the only
> TV network that cared enough to bring continuous updates,
> live phone calls from victims, witnesses, and public
> officials.
>
> KCJJ did a great job also.
>
> KXIC went to their national programming.
>
> WMT did a good, not great, job of informing those of us who
> knew next to nothing.
>
> The local broadcast TV networks should be ashamed, and they
> should be called out, for their lack of commitment to
> continuous updates for local residents.
>
> Shame on you JonEllis. Shame on your staff's decision
> making.
> We have come to trust your station, and you let us down
> severely.
>
So tell me... what more was KCRG TV to do???? I am in no way affiliated with KCRG and am just wondering what more they are supposed to do? Some times you have to come back in the morning and help put the story together. It was late in the evening when they stopped the broadcasting about the storm but by no means did they forget about it. Do you really want the News to be in the way of emergency workers trying to do there job??? Heck, Josh Baines was calling out tornados even before the National Weather Service was issuing a Tornado Warning!!! So now TV-9 is the bad guy??? Would talking with more victims until 1 AM really help matters??? Just wondering...
> KCRG and the other broadcast networks did a real disservice
> to the Johnson County community by rejoining regular
> programming when the 10pm News ended.
>
> None of them gave viewers any real idea of the extent of the
> damage in Johnson County.
>
> All we knew was that Menards and St. Pats had lost part of
> their roofs, and that Dairy Queen was gone, and "where would
> we get our ice cream now".
>
> Thank God for Bradman and PATV. They were obviously the only
> TV network that cared enough to bring continuous updates,
> live phone calls from victims, witnesses, and public
> officials.
>
> KCJJ did a great job also.
>
> KXIC went to their national programming.
>
> WMT did a good, not great, job of informing those of us who
> knew next to nothing.
>
> The local broadcast TV networks should be ashamed, and they
> should be called out, for their lack of commitment to
> continuous updates for local residents.
>
> Shame on you JonEllis. Shame on your staff's decision
> making.
> We have come to trust your station, and you let us down
> severely.
>
Wow...I sure missed it! Was Bradman doing his award winning reporting in blackface? I am sure they had the reaction from the "ped mall" and maybe even lined up shots of Jager, as "graphics" to show the plath of the destructive tornadoes! I can't wait to go to Tommy Lang's website so I can hear more about how awful the local TV stations are and how great KCJJ and PATV is. With as great as these undiscovered "talents" are in Eastern Iowa...I can't wait to see Bradman working side by side with Katie Couric on the CBS Evening News. And I've heard Tommy Lang is in line to take over for Paul Harvey when he's gone! We are soooo lucky to have such great iconic radio and television folk right here in our own backyard!
> to the Johnson County community by rejoining regular
> programming when the 10pm News ended.
>
> None of them gave viewers any real idea of the extent of the
> damage in Johnson County.
>
> All we knew was that Menards and St. Pats had lost part of
> their roofs, and that Dairy Queen was gone, and "where would
> we get our ice cream now".
>
> Thank God for Bradman and PATV. They were obviously the only
> TV network that cared enough to bring continuous updates,
> live phone calls from victims, witnesses, and public
> officials.
>
> KCJJ did a great job also.
>
> KXIC went to their national programming.
>
> WMT did a good, not great, job of informing those of us who
> knew next to nothing.
>
> The local broadcast TV networks should be ashamed, and they
> should be called out, for their lack of commitment to
> continuous updates for local residents.
>
> Shame on you JonEllis. Shame on your staff's decision
> making.
> We have come to trust your station, and you let us down
> severely.
>
Wow...I sure missed it! Was Bradman doing his award winning reporting in blackface? I am sure they had the reaction from the "ped mall" and maybe even lined up shots of Jager, as "graphics" to show the plath of the destructive tornadoes! I can't wait to go to Tommy Lang's website so I can hear more about how awful the local TV stations are and how great KCJJ and PATV is. With as great as these undiscovered "talents" are in Eastern Iowa...I can't wait to see Bradman working side by side with Katie Couric on the CBS Evening News. And I've heard Tommy Lang is in line to take over for Paul Harvey when he's gone! We are soooo lucky to have such great iconic radio and television folk right here in our own backyard!
> So tell me... what more was KCRG TV to do???? I am in no
> way affiliated with KCRG and am just wondering what more
> they are supposed to do? Some times you have to come back
> in the morning and help put the story together. It was late
> in the evening when they stopped the broadcasting about the
> storm but by no means did they forget about it. Do you
> really want the News to be in the way of emergency workers
> trying to do there job??? Heck, Josh Baines was calling
> out tornados even before the National Weather Service was
> issuing a Tornado Warning!!! So now TV-9 is the bad guy???
> Would talking with more victims until 1 AM really help
> matters??? Just wondering...
>
Emergency information was coming in from city officials well past midnight. Talking to them and getting that info on the air would have been nice.
As skeezix pointed out, "Where will people get their ice cream now?" doesn't cut it.
This is not about the guys in the weather lab. They did a FANTASTIC job predicting the storms and getting the word out. They're one of the major reasons there were no deaths in Johnson County.
This is about the aftermath. What streets were closed? How many people were hurt? Where were the gas leaks? Where do displaced residents go?
A lot of questions got answered in the hours after the tornados hit, and it would have been nice for the broadcast channels to get that info to the people. It would have been nice to get the word out to gawkers to STAY HOME. But since they couldn't see the images on TV, they had one choice: go see it for themselves. That's why I don't buy the "in the way of emergency workers trying to do there ("their") job" line. A newsvan or two would be preferable to every Tom, Dick and Harry packing up the family for a driving tour of downtown.
Like I said, I don't want to come off as bitter. (I'll leave that to Stickman.) I just think KCRG wasn't their usual stellar self.
> way affiliated with KCRG and am just wondering what more
> they are supposed to do? Some times you have to come back
> in the morning and help put the story together. It was late
> in the evening when they stopped the broadcasting about the
> storm but by no means did they forget about it. Do you
> really want the News to be in the way of emergency workers
> trying to do there job??? Heck, Josh Baines was calling
> out tornados even before the National Weather Service was
> issuing a Tornado Warning!!! So now TV-9 is the bad guy???
> Would talking with more victims until 1 AM really help
> matters??? Just wondering...
>
Emergency information was coming in from city officials well past midnight. Talking to them and getting that info on the air would have been nice.
As skeezix pointed out, "Where will people get their ice cream now?" doesn't cut it.
This is not about the guys in the weather lab. They did a FANTASTIC job predicting the storms and getting the word out. They're one of the major reasons there were no deaths in Johnson County.
This is about the aftermath. What streets were closed? How many people were hurt? Where were the gas leaks? Where do displaced residents go?
A lot of questions got answered in the hours after the tornados hit, and it would have been nice for the broadcast channels to get that info to the people. It would have been nice to get the word out to gawkers to STAY HOME. But since they couldn't see the images on TV, they had one choice: go see it for themselves. That's why I don't buy the "in the way of emergency workers trying to do there ("their") job" line. A newsvan or two would be preferable to every Tom, Dick and Harry packing up the family for a driving tour of downtown.
Like I said, I don't want to come off as bitter. (I'll leave that to Stickman.) I just think KCRG wasn't their usual stellar self.
D
DiscoJon
Guest
> Emergency information was coming in from city officials well
> past midnight. Talking to them and getting that info on the
> air would have been nice.
> As skeezix pointed out, "Where will people get their ice
> cream now?" doesn't cut it.
>
> This is not about the guys in the weather lab. They did a
> FANTASTIC job predicting the storms and getting the word
> out. They're one of the major reasons there were no deaths
> in Johnson County.
> This is about the aftermath. What streets were closed? How
> many people were hurt? Where were the gas leaks? Where do
> displaced residents go?
>
> A lot of questions got answered in the hours after the
> tornados hit, and it would have been nice for the broadcast
> channels to get that info to the people. It would have been
> nice to get the word out to gawkers to STAY HOME. But since
> they couldn't see the images on TV, they had one choice: go
> see it for themselves. That's why I don't buy the "in the
> way of emergency workers trying to do there ("their") job"
> line. A newsvan or two would be preferable to every Tom,
> Dick and Harry packing up the family for a driving tour of
> downtown.
>
> Like I said, I don't want to come off as bitter. (I'll leave
> that to Stickman.) I just think KCRG wasn't their usual
> stellar self.
Easy there Tom the Tiger!!! So if KCRG would have stayed on and continued to broadcast... more gawkers would not have come out??? I think it would have just added more pain to the area with more people NOT doing anything except looking at the damage. Perhaps the answers weren't available for gas leaks and other problems at the time they signed off. Maybe they didn't know there were other problems. Did YOU call Newsline 9 and tell them the problems??? You might not want to come off as bitter... but you do. Lets blame the Government next for the tornado's and how we need to fight the Terrorism of Mother Nature next!!! As far as gas leaks and where do people go for housing.... I am sure those in need didn't have their TV's on. The Local Authorities probably handled that and the Red Cross. Do you want to take a stab at them too??? It was a Terrible Storm that came thru and luckily not more people were killed. Was it only 1 person that died? Don't attack KCRG-TV for their coverage.
> past midnight. Talking to them and getting that info on the
> air would have been nice.
> As skeezix pointed out, "Where will people get their ice
> cream now?" doesn't cut it.
>
> This is not about the guys in the weather lab. They did a
> FANTASTIC job predicting the storms and getting the word
> out. They're one of the major reasons there were no deaths
> in Johnson County.
> This is about the aftermath. What streets were closed? How
> many people were hurt? Where were the gas leaks? Where do
> displaced residents go?
>
> A lot of questions got answered in the hours after the
> tornados hit, and it would have been nice for the broadcast
> channels to get that info to the people. It would have been
> nice to get the word out to gawkers to STAY HOME. But since
> they couldn't see the images on TV, they had one choice: go
> see it for themselves. That's why I don't buy the "in the
> way of emergency workers trying to do there ("their") job"
> line. A newsvan or two would be preferable to every Tom,
> Dick and Harry packing up the family for a driving tour of
> downtown.
>
> Like I said, I don't want to come off as bitter. (I'll leave
> that to Stickman.) I just think KCRG wasn't their usual
> stellar self.
Easy there Tom the Tiger!!! So if KCRG would have stayed on and continued to broadcast... more gawkers would not have come out??? I think it would have just added more pain to the area with more people NOT doing anything except looking at the damage. Perhaps the answers weren't available for gas leaks and other problems at the time they signed off. Maybe they didn't know there were other problems. Did YOU call Newsline 9 and tell them the problems??? You might not want to come off as bitter... but you do. Lets blame the Government next for the tornado's and how we need to fight the Terrorism of Mother Nature next!!! As far as gas leaks and where do people go for housing.... I am sure those in need didn't have their TV's on. The Local Authorities probably handled that and the Red Cross. Do you want to take a stab at them too??? It was a Terrible Storm that came thru and luckily not more people were killed. Was it only 1 person that died? Don't attack KCRG-TV for their coverage.
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