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How would a high school network do?

With so many high school radio stations still on the air, there is a need for solid high school aimed public affairs, learning and music programs. I have had the idea of trying to group some GM's, PD's and Instructors together to try to share programming. How do you think it would go over? Add HS podcasting/streaming programs and its a ton of potential programs!

My idea has always been a call-in Homework Helper program...my idea would be things like this and maybe even provide some fundraising and underwriting support and possible music programming support. Sort of a School-Aged NPR with a good mix of music.
 
Beautiful thing nowadays is that if you don't need live programming, distribution for a tiny network like this can all be done on-line with MP3 and RSS. You don't even need centralized servers; each station that originates a program can make it available through their own servers, and just have one central co-ordinating site pointing people to feeds of the shows. Next to no expense. No satellites, no ISDN's, not even CD-R's like back when I used to distribute my show to different stations.

Even your call-in shows don't have to be live nationally. Look at NPR's "A Way With Words" or "Wait Wait, Don't Tell Me" as an example. Call and leave a voicemail, and the host can call selected callers back.

I say do it! Does anyone have a good list of high school stations in the country to help this intrepid entrepreneur get started?
 
Well to start, I am the GM at a high school here in Indiana. We have a group organization, Indiana Association of School Broadcasters, so I already have that list of licensed FM's. I know Indiana has a large percentage of high school radio, and I have heard New Jersey does too...is there something that makes these areas more unique?
 
The biggest draw is public involvement. A lot of stations don't want the public involved. This is a hard sell to adminisrators. Happy to provide the info for creating your own server. We use bluehost.com at $6 a month. RSS feeds. Download the programming to your site through radio-spider or another such program.
 
I am the station manager of a West Virginia high school based radio station, WRSG. Count me in-there is a huge need for public affairs programming that caters to teens.

By the way, are any high school stations streaming ball games and other non-music programming?
 
Bad idea, high school radio stations should teach the students how to program local radio, not run networks.
If all the schools had low power stations, they could link up only so that an event happenig at one school could be broadcast at both or all. Of course, the only reason would be where grabbing an FM radio is more convenient for the listener than going on line.
 
ai4i said:
Bad idea, high school radio stations should teach the students how to program local radio, not run networks.

Disagree. Do you want to try to come up with 24 hours of programming a day with 3 studios? It's not like I don't want local content, but there is plenty of good ideas out there that could be broadcast in many places, not just one. Add to that, the idea that the student could be heard all across the country perks the interest in a few more students to work just that much harder.
 
Bad idea, high school radio stations should teach the students how to program local radio, not run networks.

This is a much larger discussion, but why teach them to program local radio instead of running networks? What situation are they more likely to encounter should any of them actually pursue a career in broadcasting? I would argue that perhaps they should run more local and act like a prototypical "college rock" station because it's more fun for the students...but it's not better training for the "real" radio world.



Anyways, Massachusetts is another state with a lot of high school radio stations...14 I believe in all (and Scott Fybush agrees), although not all that long ago there were 16; WPAA and WSRB both went dark since 2000. Why so many? I have no hard facts, but I suspect it's because of Ed Perry, GM of WATD, Marshfield...one of the best local commercial radio stations in the country (and with the awards to prove it). Besides being an incredibly knowledgeable, passionate and all-around nice guy, Ed had a real thing going back in the 1960's and 1970's to help get small non-comm stations on the air at both colleges and high schools. (and remember, there's some 60-odd colleges & universities in Greater Boston alone) I think Dana Puopolo deserves some credit on this front, too.

Anyways...many people, myself included, have vaguely tried to unite the high school stations, and the college stations for that matter, in MA into some semblance of a larger organization...nobody's succeeded yet. The greatest problem in Massachusetts' case is the nature of the government there, believe or not. Mass has counties but realistically the counties exist solely for voting precincts and courts; there's no real power or organization at the county level. So it's all down at the city/town level, and there's 351 cities and towns crammed into a fairly small state...and every single one of them acts like an island unto itself.

Accordingly, the parents that effectively control the high school stations. Even if there's a professional hired to run the station and teach radio classes...he/she answers to the school board who answers to the parents. And by-n-large only the wealthy towns have radio stations at their high school so you've got rich parents to boot. And these parents will be damned if they let anyone from outside their control have even a hint of control of their radio station. Plus, from their perspective, there's no disincentive to not joining...nobody cares if nobody's listening, everyone makes sure there's enough funding (usually they can afford it out of pocket if they have to) and the FCC's never going to come in and bust them for the myriad array of equipment & operations violations common to many of these stations. Not all, but at least 30-40 percent in my experience (and I've visited or interacted with at least 50% of the stations on that list).

The college stations are a similar lot; most of them in MA don't have any professional management. Maybe a faculty advisor who is barely involved, otherwise it's all students running the joint and they're notorious for believing that their way is always the best way and any other way of doing things is automatically crap. And again, they face no disincentive for not changing their ways; the funding from the Student Activity Fee is usually not enough to do things "right" but it's enough to limp along indefinitely, and if things go really bad (busted transmitter, collapsed tower, etc) they know the school will pony up the cash to fix things. (well, given the fiscal state many colleges find themselves in, maybe it should be they "think they know")

The biggest draw is public involvement. A lot of stations don't want the public involved. This is a hard sell to adminisrators.

You got that right. To expand a bit on this, administrators look at any "outsider" and generally they see "liability"...either legal or political or both. That's a hard hurdle to overcome.

It'd be a little different if there were a way these little stations could realistically bring money in the door to the point where they'd not just be self-sufficient, but also would make the parent school some money. FCC/legal issues aside (and there most definitely are some) that's damn hard to do for any non-comm, and it's virtually impossible to do it at the Class D 10 watt or small Class A level; especially in the more non-urban areas where these stations tend to be. So basically you've got to sell an admin on the idea that your network might reduce costs slightly at best, but will more likely touch off a political firestorm internally that you've "sold out to outside interests". Not hard to see why the default answer is usually "no".

Just look at what happened when UMass Lowell tried to "professionalize" WUML (then WJUL). That was a mess on both sides of the issue.

OTOH, if you approached PUBLIC high schools (private schools would probably reject it on general principle) and offered them $100k each to buy the license outright but would allow X hours of student programming per day as a condition of the deal....given what many public school systems are facing budget-wise I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them accepted the offer. Beats me if you'd ever see ROI on the deal, though.
 
Thanks for your comments. A lot to think about!

High School radio is, probably, quite different in IN than in MA. Most stations have 1, or even 2, people running the station. A few like me also teach either part or full time. TV has caught quickly the last 15-years and school systems have started hiring professionals there too. I know in Indiana, a professional can become a vocational teacher with a probationary license easily while working on a "Workplace Specialist" license.

In Indiana, there is already a loose organization, the Indiana Association of School Broadcasters. In fact, they hold a competition and conference that is coming up March 9 if anyone is interested in checking it out. I don't know of any other school broadcasters state association.

The things that I would also like to include in a network of some sorts is curriculum development. When I came to this program, I had to develop my curriculum from scratch over the summer...not too easy, and still working on it daily. HSBJ is nice, but way too advanced for a school with 2 studios and three extra computers not even networked.

Maybe an organization like NPR or NAB could create a Jr. association or something? There are plenty of schools with over-the-air, like mine, and others that are online-only that could benefit as well.
 
High School radio is, probably, quite different in IN than in MA. Most stations have 1, or even 2, people running the station.

Indeed, there's a huge difference between a station with no active advisor/manager and a station with even just one such person. Actually in MA I think a lot of the high school stations do indeed have relatively active advisors, or very active advisors. But the town/city government structure in the state still works against collaboration with stations in other towns/cities.

Maybe an organization like NPR or NAB could create a Jr. association or something? There are plenty of schools with over-the-air, like mine, and others that are online-only that could benefit as well.

I think NAB used to have a Jr. association but it died out? There was also the NACB (Nat'l Assoc of College Broadcasters) that didn't really have anything to do with NAB, AFAIK...it also died out but was reborn as CBI as several former NACB members re-constituted it under CMA (College Media Advisors). Given that I work at an NPR station, you'd think I'd know if there was a high-school or college program under NPR but I don't think there is, not in the way we're talking about. I mean, NPR does have some programs designed to work with HS/college students, sure, but not a formal advocacy organization like CBI and IBS are. Anyways, I'm a fan of CBI, so take that however you want, but I'd argue HS stations could do worse than to join CBI! :)
 
butlerguy03 said:
Maybe an organization like NPR or NAB could create a Jr. association or something? There are plenty of schools with over-the-air, like mine, and others that are online-only that could benefit as well.

Hate to bring up something crass, but where would the money come from? NPR changes its member stations a fee. Is there money in the budget for some kind of nat'l association? Because it would require professional staff.
 
We already pay the NAB fee, IASB fees, licensing fees...yes, not as much as commercials stations, but we do have a little budget to pay. We bring in a nice, yearly sum from donations and underwriters. Hopefully it will hit 10k in the next few years. In fact, we have had a few businesses start coming to us instead of a local commercial station. I honestly think we are going to subscribe to arbitron soon and get a real feel of how much we have hurt that stations listening audience (it once was over a 20 share and now is around a 13). We have a similar format.

A dedicated school district will pay a fee...a non-dedicated school district needs to give up the license to someone who wants to educate the students in how radio and mass media work, not just a playground for djs.
 
aaronread said:
Given that I work at an NPR station, you'd think I'd know if there was a high-school or college program under NPR but I don't think there is, not in the way we're talking about.

That's correct, and actually NPR has membership rules that almost all school systems would find prohibitive. To qualify, a station must have so many full time staffers, a certain sized budget, 24/7 operation, and even certain minimum ratings.
 
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