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HOWARD STERN QUESTION

I hear that HS was on WNBC radio at one time. He did or ran something on his show that angered a top executive at NBC who was listening with his family at the time. Has fired because of it in spite of his super high ratings. Does anyone what he did to cause HS and WNBC to part ways?


OLD CHICAGO
 
He documents it all in his book "Private Parts." (It was made into a movie, which is funny, but the book gives more specific detail.) Basically, this is a case study in NBC incompetence. Shortly after Stern left, GE bought NBC and dumped the radio division and all their radio properties. NBC had Imus, Howard and Soupy Sales on one radio station and couldn't make money in radio - because of mismanagement.

NBC was one of the great early talk stations in the 60s, and management came in and destroyed that, too.

NBC forced Group W to swap their Philly and Cleveland stations. Group W came to Cleveland and created an outstanding - and outstandingly successful - full-service top 40 station and made money. NBC came to Philly and ran the station into the ground. They were getting beat by FM stations when nobody owned an FM radio and few listened (like NBC gets beat by Univision today). The FCC forced the two swap stations back. NBC went to Cleveland and destroyed a successful operation, then sold out. The Philly station has been number one most of the time for 50 years.
 
GE bought NBC prior to Howard Stern being hired at WNNNNBC.

About the Channel 3 and radio NBC Group W swap; In June 1955 Westinghouse agreed to trade KYW and KYW TV 3, then an NBC affiliate to NBC in exchange for Cleveland's 3 WNBK television and WTAM-AM-FM, and $3 million in cash compensation. NBC had long sought an owned-and-operated TV station in Philadelphia, the largest market where it did not own a station. It had made several offers over the years for the Philadelphia stations, but Westinghouse said no each time. After being rebuffed by Westinghouse on several occasions, NBC threatened to drop its affiliation from KYW TV and Westinghouse's other NBC television affiliate, WBZ-TV in Boston, unless Westinghouse agreed to the trade. When NBC took over in February 1956, KYW TV Philadelphia's channel 3's call letters were changed to WRCV-TV (for the RCA-Victor record label; KYW radio adopted the WRCV calls as well).


However, almost immediately after the trade was finalized, Westinghouse complained to the FCC and the United States Department of Justice about NBC's coercion and a lengthy investigation was launched. In August 1964, the FCC renewed the licenses for WRCV-AM-TV—but only on the condition that the 1956 station swap be reversed.[5] Following nearly a year of appeals by NBC, Westinghouse regained control of WRCV-AM-TV on June 19, 1965. Westinghouse had moved the KYW call letters to Cleveland after the swap, and upon regaining control of the Philadelphia outlets channel 3 became KYW-TV. Channel 3 Cleveland became WKYC. To this day, KYW-TV insists that it "moved" to Cleveland in 1956 and "returned" to Philadelphia in 1965—in fact, some staffers who worked at KYW-TV in Cleveland (talk show host Mike Douglas and news anchor Tom Snyder among them) moved to Philadelphia along with the call letters.[7]

Since this had happened, Westinghouse became notorious for preempting NBC shows at a whim. Generally, if an NBC show had below average ratings, Westinghouse would preempt the show. If the show had average to high ratings it generally was shown. Westinghouse preempted prohgramming almost as much with its CBS stations. Its ABC station in Baltimore preeempted less than the others. Finally in 1995, All the Westinghouse stations took CBS affiliation and that fall stopped preemptions. In 1996 Westinghouse ended up buying CBS outright.

About Stern, He was fired because the GE Executives decided he did not fit in after a few antagonistic confrontations over the months leading up to his firing September 30 of 1985. Christmas of 1984, Stern played music - about 10 songs an hour, basically Hot AC cuts mixed with an occasional oldie. When Dale Parsons took over the station, Stern was given more freedom, reducing songs to maybe a couple an hour. His show became more talk intensive and much younger leaning. WNNNBC was holding its own pulling low 4 shares to upper 3 shares. After Stern was fired, WNNNBC dived from a low 4 to an upper 2 for the crucial fall book. The winter book they dived to a low 2 and for the all important spring book in 1986 they kept diving down to a 1 share. From Spring of 1986 till WNNNBC folded ratings were low to mid 1 shares. When they dumped Howard Stern, they killed the station overall. NBC failed at running WNNNBC miserably most of their years. In the 70's they did okay nothing great with AC then Adult Top 40 then Top 40 - evolving back to Adult Top 40/Hot AC. WNNNBC was successful from about 1980 to 1985. They surpassed WABC's ratings in 1980 and once WABC went Talk WNBC shot up to the number one spot. They were in the top 3 or so until Z 100's 1983 sign on. Even after that WNBC continued to be in teh Top 10. They modified their Hot AC format in 1984 to more of a full service AC early in 1985. After Stern was fired, WNBC went through severalo format modifications and failed.
 
Wrong! GE (re)acquired RCA, which owned NBC, in 1986. GE had no role in NBC in 1985 when Stern left.

Group W, like other group owners of independent network affiliates, commonly preempted network programming. This had nothing to do with the "swap." It was a standard business practice at the time. WJZ-TV, Baltimore, for example, preempted American Bandstand for its own Buddy Deane Show (the inspiration for The Corny Collins Show in Hairspray). Network compensation payments were minimal and stations earned more with local spots in non-network shows.

Group W's Philly stations pre-swap were KYW (which it had previously "moved" from Chicago) and WPTZ (recently acquired from Philco).
 
FredLeonard said:
Group W came to Cleveland and created an outstanding - and outstandingly successful - full-service top 40 station and made money.

That was "KY11", an early top 40 station that made many a hit record from 1956 through 1965. When a record got on the KY11 blowtorch, stations in New York and Chicago took notice. This was Ken Draper's KYW. After the NBC takeover, Draper went to Chicago to program WCFL when it flipped to top 40.

Good stuff! :)
 
Agreed. KYW, Cleveland and WCFL under Draper were among the two greatest stations of radio's "silver age" - any market, any format. Every ingredient that made radio compelling, must-hear listening. Then management bean counters decided they could save money and people would still listen.
 
"KY11"... that would be a terrible name for a station these days. Jelli would be a perfect fit at night though... (ducks as rotten tomatoes are thrown at the stage)
 
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