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How'd the Beatles play in Green Bay...

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ixnay

... Billings, Kalamazoo, Boise, Wichita... you know, the *way* off the beaten path American markets?

I ask this because I believe one of the great juxtapositions of Western culture is that the weekend of the celebrated "Ice Bowl" (played in Rockwellish Green Bay), the semi-psychedelic "Hello Goodbye" began a 3-week run #1 on Billboard's Hot 100 (and Vince Lombardi was by this time being held up as a symbol of everything that was "right" with America). This is a question that has been gnawing at my brain every football season. Just how did the Fab Four play in the American boonies?

ixnay
 
ixnay said:
... Billings, Kalamazoo, Boise, Wichita... you know, the *way* off the beaten path American markets?

I ask this because I believe one of the great juxtapositions of Western culture is that the weekend of the celebrated "Ice Bowl" (played in Rockwellish Green Bay), the semi-psychedelic "Hello Goodbye" began a 3-week run #1 on Billboard's Hot 100 (and Vince Lombardi was by this time being held up as a symbol of everything that was "right" with America). This is a question that has been gnawing at my brain every football season. Just how did the Fab Four play in the American boonies?

ixnay
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The Beatles didn't play the "boonies" on their '64 and "66 American tours, so I guess it's a non-issue. Don't let Talk_Dude hear you call "Hello, Goodbye" psychedelic. He'll lecture you good.
 
TheFonz said:
The Beatles didn't play the "boonies" on their '64 and "66 American tours, so I guess it's a non-issue. Don't let Talk_Dude hear you call "Hello, Goodbye" psychedelic. He'll lecture you good.
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I know that. I meant say, how much AIRplay did the Fab Four get in the boonies? Was their following as manic in the boonies as in the major markets?

ixnay
 
TheFonz said:
ixnay said:
... Billings, Kalamazoo, Boise, Wichita... you know, the *way* off the beaten path American markets?

I ask this because I believe one of the great juxtapositions of Western culture is that the weekend of the celebrated "Ice Bowl" (played in Rockwellish Green Bay), the semi-psychedelic "Hello Goodbye" began a 3-week run #1 on Billboard's Hot 100 (and Vince Lombardi was by this time being held up as a symbol of everything that was "right" with America). This is a question that has been gnawing at my brain every football season. Just how did the Fab Four play in the American boonies?


Don't even respond to Talk Dude. He is arrogant and rude
ixnay
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The Beatles didn't play the "boonies" on their '64 and "66 American tours, so I guess it's a non-issue. Don't let Talk_Dude hear you call "Hello, Goodbye" psychedelic. He'll lecture you good.
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ixnay said:
TheFonz said:
The Beatles didn't play the "boonies" on their '64 and "66 American tours, so I guess it's a non-issue. Don't let Talk_Dude hear you call "Hello, Goodbye" psychedelic. He'll lecture you good.
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I know that. I meant say, how much AIRplay did the Fab Four get in the boonies? Was their following as manic in the boonies as in the major markets?

ixnay
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I guess nobody who lived in flyover country back then remembers. Or cares to iykwim... ::)

ixnay
 
ixnay said:
ixnay said:
TheFonz said:
The Beatles didn't play the "boonies" on their '64 and "66 American tours, so I guess it's a non-issue. Don't let Talk_Dude hear you call "Hello, Goodbye" psychedelic. He'll lecture you good.
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I know that. I meant say, how much AIRplay did the Fab Four get in the boonies? Was their following as manic in the boonies as in the major markets?

ixnay
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I guess nobody who lived in flyover country back then remembers. Or cares to iykwim... ::)

ixnay
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Why would you think that people in "flyover country" wouldn't have listened to the Beatles? AM radio was still bigger than FM in the mid-sixties. Even if small local radio stations weren't playing the Beatles the signals from large market AM stations carried great distances, especially at night. An example of this was back in the mid-fifties during the birth of rock & roll. I lived in a fairly large market, but the radio stations weren't playing artists like Little Richard, Bo Diddley, The Drifters, Fats Domino, artists from Sun records, etc. The DJ at a local call-in request show refused to play Elvis Presley. We had to tune into Nashville's WLAC (550 miles away) at night to hear that music. Eventually the music became so popular that mainstream radio was forced to play it. And the rest, as they say, is history.
 
ixnay said:
Just how did the Fab Four play in the American boonies?
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Answer: Quite well.

If you were to look at the small-market charts from the 1964-1970 period, you would generally see that the Beatles did as well there as they did in the large markets.
 
How did the Beatles play in middle America? Why, quite well, thank you very much! St. Louis and Chicago were among the first cities in the states to submit to the Beatles' charm and wit, after Washington, DC. A DC dj acquired a copy of the British 45 of "I Want to Hold Your Hand" (before the American single was released) and made copies of it for his dj friends in Chicago and St. Louis. Hence, it was played in the heartland even before it was "officially" released!
 
TheFonz said:
The Beatles didn't play the "boonies" on their '64 and "66 American tours, so I guess it's a non-issue. Don't let Talk_Dude hear you call "Hello, Goodbye" psychedelic. He'll lecture you good.
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They didn't? That might come as news to those who saw them at the Mid-South Coliseum in Memphis (later to become Elvis' home turf!) on August 19, 1966. Since the Coliseum was, I'm guessing, built sometime in the early '60s, that would mean that the "fab four" probably played there even before the "king" ever did. But make no doubt about it, Elvis "owned" the coliseum once he returned to touring. I believe the infamous "Elvis has left the building" announcement was made there." ;D

No, "Hello, Goodbye" was not psychedelic, despite the Sgt. Pepper jackets that they wore in the video for it. It was one of John Lennon's least favorite Beatle songs. For the psychedelia, play the B-side, "I am the Walrus."
 
firepoint525 said:
They didn't? That might come as news to those who saw them at the Mid-South Coliseum in Memphis (later to become Elvis' home turf!) on August 19, 1966. Since the Coliseum was, I'm guessing, built sometime in the early '60s, that would mean that the "fab four" probably played there even before the "king" ever did. But make no doubt about it, Elvis "owned" the coliseum once he returned to touring. I believe the infamous "Elvis has left the building" announcement was made there."
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Wow! Did I just hear you call Memphis "the boonies"? Memphians won't like that.
 
TheFonz said:
firepoint525 said:
They didn't? That might come as news to those who saw them at the Mid-South Coliseum in Memphis (later to become Elvis' home turf!) on August 19, 1966. Since the Coliseum was, I'm guessing, built sometime in the early '60s, that would mean that the "fab four" probably played there even before the "king" ever did. But make no doubt about it, Elvis "owned" the coliseum once he returned to touring. I believe the infamous "Elvis has left the building" announcement was made there."
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Wow! Did I just hear you call Memphis "the boonies"? Memphians won't like that.
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They can deal with it. I should know. I'm originally from Memphis! 8)
 
firepoint525 said:
How did the Beatles play in middle America? Why, quite well, thank you very much! St. Louis and Chicago were among the first cities in the states to submit to the Beatles' charm and wit, after Washington, DC. A DC dj acquired a copy of the British 45 of "I Want to Hold Your Hand" (before the American single was released) and made copies of it for his dj friends in Chicago and St. Louis. Hence, it was played in the heartland even before it was "officially" released!
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"Please Please Me" was played first in the US by Dick Biondi on WLS in Feb 1963. However, America wasn't ready for the Fab Four yet in early 63.
 
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