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Howie Carr vs. Tim Cahill!

On Friday, WRKO's Howie Carr wrote an op-ed for the Boston Herald, urging Republican candidate for Governor Tim Cahill to "pack it in":
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20100903time_to_pack_it_in_tim_cahill/

Today, in response, Cahill pens a piece in today's Herald titled, "Howie Carr, your fantasy is a nightmare":
http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20100904howie_carr_your_fantasy_is_a_nightmare/

Gee, I wonder if Huggy is going to comment about this on his show today?
 
Cahill will quit the race, but in late October.

Looky looky at Evelyn Murphy, Francis X. Bellotti and John Silber, 1990 for the gameplan.
 
Cahill is a former Democrat who endorsed Patrick and praised him for standing up to those who want a tax rollback. However many conservatives would prefer voting for him rather than Baker
whom they feel is a "Republican in Name Only" and ran Harvard Pilgrim incorrectly, etc. Also social conservatives object to Baker picking Rich Tisei, who is openly gay. "I will vote for a pro
family candidate", they say. Cahill is probably the best friend the Dems could have because he may draw enough votes from Baker to give Patrick a victory.

In Mass., there are many voters who are Democrats or liberal but there are also many who are independent. Some of these may be fiscal conservatives but more moderate on issues like
gay marriage or abortion. But they have a tough time in a state where many like the idea of
big government, many work for the government or know someone who does (such as teachers) etc.
Whenever tax rollbacks are proposed, Democrats roll out ads saying that police/fire/schools
would be decimated, etc.

It was a minor miracle that Scott Brown was elected, and Coakley's ineptitude may have
contributed. Now many on the Right and center are moaning that Brown is "Republican in
Name Only" and broke his promises. Evidently they missed the ads which said that
he is independent-thinking and will do what's best for the state. (Meanwhile, Dems ran ads saying he would vote in lockstep with the Republican party. Guess what: That's wrong. His
voting record in the state Senate was the same way...)

Similarly, many on the
Right distrust the likes of Baker, Romney, etc. They want a totally conservative candidate.

Hey...this is Massachusetts. What are they smoking? :)

The Cahill dispute can be good radio (yes, radio) though no doubt even if Patrick wins
re-election it will be a boon to people like Howie. Most of the pols he attacks are
Democrats--but in a state where they hold 96 per cent of offices, maybe that's to
be expected. He DID attack Jane Swift, but her scandals were ripe for having fun
(same with such Republicans as Larry "Airport Bathroom" Craig).

Of course it's interesting that conservative radio does so well in this state while liberal radio
(at least _commercial_ liberal radio) doesn't. The talk radio demo may skew older and somehow
those who may be fiscally conservative and socially _moderate_ at least tend to enjoy
the talk radio we have. Or will a liberal talk host _someday_ be as successful as Carr?
He won his 3-6 pm time slot a few times...

And by the way, Cahill's fake sounding ad in which he goes "one voter at a time" to
people in coffee shops, etc. is as much a turnoff to me as 1-877-KARS-4-KIDS.
 
I get the feeling that Cahill is in it till the bitter end (as Christy Mihos might say, he's "in it
to win it"). He portrays himself as an outcast from the Dem party (I'm surprised he didn't
bring up Reagan's quote about "I didn't leave the Dem party,the Dem party left me") but if he
serves as a "straw" to draw votes away from the GOP candidate, they're sure to love him.

Listeners to Jerry Williams will remember him mentioning straw candidates--put in to
take votes away from ONE candidate and help elect another. I remember one such candidate
in the 6th up here on the North Shore, Eric Elbot... Howie has said "the best straw is the
guy who doesn't even know he's a straw".

It's true btw that many independent candidates fade in the polls in the end, and Cahill doesn't
have "party money" to back him. However he did just qualify to get $750,000 of taxpayer funded campaign money.
Guess who's paying for those "hi. I'm Tim Cahill and I'm running for gov" ads?

We are. Nice country.
 
Cahill is a Ross Perot wannabe. I suspect he's already made a deal with Patrick. He'll throw his support to him in October and all will be forgiven. If Urkle wins, he gets a cushy state job, if he loses, his buddy, the chosen one will set Cahill up with a cushy federal job. I think this has been a bag job from the beginning. If Cahill was so opposed to Patrick, why didn't he oppose him as a democrat as Ed King did to Dukakis back in the 70s?

The latest Rassmussen poll has Cahill with 8% of the vote, so it may not work. These polls tend to be self-fulfilloing prophecies(unless it's the Globe, who gave Coakley a 15% edge) the lower your number goes, the more people bail.
 
Agreed, and you're right, why didn't he run against Patrick in a Dem primary? We'll see if more
people bail from Cahill as time goes by. Supposedly Cahill gave a reason for leaving the Dem
party, something Deval did, etc., but I think he knew he couldn't win the nomination so
the indie route was the way to go--or maybe the Dems are all too happy to have him
stay around in the hope he'll draw voters away from Baker.
 
I cannot hear Tim Cahill's name without thinking of Will Forte's character on SNL.

Fun Fact: Tim was my wrestling coach at Quincy High School!


:)
 
Of course it's interesting that conservative radio does so well in this state while liberal radio (at least _commercial_ liberal radio) doesn't.

It's probably oversimplifying here, but conservative radio tends to be more anti-establishment than anything else. Granted, they pick exactly WHO in the establishment they go after very carefully...but it's still anti-establishment. That's a sentiment that resonates far more broadly than political affiliation; hence why Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert also do very well regardless of who's in the White House.

As for why commercial liberal radio doesn't work in Massachusetts, I suspect it's because NPR has such a stranglehold on the core demos that would ever listen to liberal talk, that it just isn't ever going to gain a foothold. To be fair, though, libtalk has traditionally been on pretty lousy signals in Massachusetts...especially back when Bush The Younger was in office; when that listening base was the most riled up and most likely to listen, they couldn't because the signals stunk. Although by the same token, if your radio product depends on a certain party being in the WH, it's too specific and doomed to fail.
 
Ah yes, those obnoxious "one voter at a time" ads are fake fake fake - I wish cahill would leave the race - I didn't watch last nite's debate but "heard" that deval was real cozy with cahill making it obvious they are in cahoots - a sweet payoff awaits cahill when all is said and done.
 
Cahill is to be on Howie's show today at 5:30. The various spats in gov race, and Malone v.
Perry in 10th Cong/GOP are a bit entertaining..
As I said some on Right have problems with Baker (Harv Pilgrim/Romneycare, running mate) and
are saying they'd vote Cahill. Former Dem who endorsed/praised Deval in 06? Oh, but they're
making a statement to the state GOP. Right. Even if it means 4 more years of DP. Howie thinks Cahill's support will fade come election time and maybe Baker could pull it out (polls show Baker in lead if not for Timmy)
 
Howie should ask him, point blank, why he's staying in the race. He should point out that he has no chance to win and Patrick's only chance is to have him take votes from Baker. Try to make him admit that he's a shill for Patrick. This grinning goon is really starting to annoy me.
 
Howie was actually asking if someone had a Bible because he was going to ask TC if he
would swear on a Bible that he wouldn't take a job in a D. Patrick/state or Obama/national
administration should he lose..See if Cahill doesn't use Mihos' line, "I'm in it to win it"
or the ever-popular "Yes I know I'm far behind in the polls but the only polls that count
are the ones on Election Day"
 
I know you guys are going to think I'm crazy but I think Cahill will do much better than you think. I think that Brown would have even if he was an Independent and not a Republican. The Republican party in Massachusetts is so small it is almost a joke. There are far more unenrolled voters here than Republicans and their ranks have been growing. I think it's just a matter of time before independent and fourth party candidates start giving the party folks a run for the money and this might just be the year. Folks are so fed up with both parties they are looking for an alternative. Now whether folks will still consider Cahill an insider is still a solid question but I think they definitely will consider Baker one. If Stein was a better speaker I'd even say she might get a bigger part of the vote. She really didn't do so bad last night with her statements her delivery was just not as good as the others. I almost think this election could be wide open at this point with none of the candidates really being that popular.
 
Why liberal shows don't work? We had several, including Jim Hightower, who is the most poetic and well spoken progressive I have ever met. Truly a decent guy and we were proud to have bis show on WNSH. But, it was poorly produced and went nowhere. WNSH now has Dr Joy Browne who is a social liberal, but a great helper of folks in distress. She does well.
 
Johnster said:
I know you guys are going to think I'm crazy but I think Cahill will do much better than you think. I think that Brown would have even if he was an Independent and not a Republican. The Republican party in Massachusetts is so small it is almost a joke. There are far more unenrolled voters here than Republicans and their ranks have been growing. I think it's just a matter of time before independent and fourth party candidates start giving the party folks a run for the money and this might just be the year. Folks are so fed up with both parties they are looking for an alternative. Now whether folks will still consider Cahill an insider is still a solid question but I think they definitely will consider Baker one. If Stein was a better speaker I'd even say she might get a bigger part of the vote. She really didn't do so bad last night with her statements her delivery was just not as good as the others. I almost think this election could be wide open at this point with none of the candidates really being that popular.
That's what I'm afraid of. He may get enough votes, along with 2% or 3% going to the moonbat, for Coupe Deval to get 34% of the votes and we're stuck with the most incompetent governor in history for four more years, just because he has a "D" next to his name.
 
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