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Howie Returns: The Best of SaveWRKO

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Dark Knight

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Now that Howie is back, I thought in the interests of equal time we should revisit some of Mr. Seldom Right and Wrong Again's commentary on the whole saga. Looking at this compendium of quotes juxtaposed with the actual end results should prove enlightening to the few out there who still lend credence to anything they read over on Mr. Objectivity's site. There were many other ridiculous quotes, but like any Greatest Hits collection, there are tough choices to make. The parenthetical commentary separated from the text is mine.

July
Carr has a history of ratings and revenue that is unmatched in Boston. In the entertainment business, that's what counts.

(Let's remember that when he starts bashing him because he's back on WRKO.)

Let's get real: it's in the best interests of both parties for Howie to move on without doing any further WRKO broadcasts. Why force him to work through September? It's just silly.

(How silly does it look now?)

Former WRKO morning drive host, Scott Allen Miller, has chimed in on Howie Carr's departure from WRKO to WTKK. Scotto predicts, "Within a year, WRKO will no longer be a news/talk station," I have to agree with him.

(At least Scott is a better host than he is a prognosticator - not so sure about the other guy.)

With their jobs on the line, Empress Kahn and Coffee Boy are adhering to Entercom's longstanding scorched earth policy regarding air talent. Despite Bay State laws that are entirely in Howie Carr's favor, can they really force him to remain with the station?

(Entirely in Carr's favor? Apparently his legal sense is as good as his prognostication skills.)

George Regan's infamous PR flak firm (which handles both WRKO and the Boston Herald) has just issued a statement saying Howie would remain at WRKO "for many years to come". Could they really be that delusional?

(Riiiight...)

August

Though said to be quite chummy with Empress Kahn, Kramer must by now be aware that the company's Boston operations have become an industry joke.

(It takes one to know one? Actually, Boston was singled out for praise on Entercom's last investor call, and they continue to grow market share every year, but don't let facts get in the way of a good story.)

We're hearing from a number of media-connected folks that Howie Carr's move to WTKK is now a near-certainty, despite the dueling lawsuits and hand-wringing by Entercom management.

(As usual, his sources have their fingers to the ground and their ear on the pulse of the industry.)

September

Why did any of you doubt me? WRKO is being destroyed on purpose. The sleazy ruling regime hates effective talk radio and will do anything to destroy it.

(Yes, and Kahn was planning to put a harpsichord in Carr's former office.)

Think about it: the one reasonably effective conservative on the air has now been removed! Think the Empress and CEO David Field, a key Democrat Party contributor, are really upset to see him axed from the radio? Hell, no!

(Does he realize that as Entercom is a publicly traded company, he's accusing them of a crime here? Probably.)

I don't think this is about keeping Howie from WTKK, rather, the goal is to stick it to someone who dares to deviate from their hippy - dippy political agenda.

We're hearing that as a result of WRKO supposedly "prevailing" in court, sales clients are being told that Howie isn't going anywhere and to expect him to return soon.
Would station advertisers really be foolish enough to believe that? How many are sticking around? Why does the Entercommie regime believe we are all so stupid?

(Momma always said stupid is as stupid does.)

It is downright kooky to continue to name a radio show after a person who has cleaned out his office and left the building.

As I had expected, Howie's legal case didn't go quite as well as his entourage hoped.

(When did he "expect" this? Certainly not when he was making the proclaimations we've read so far.)

October

While Entercom has been busy making enemies all over greater Boston, Carr and Greater Media have never looked better.

Like most non-Entercom stations, WTKK is interested in generating ratings and revenue, while WRKO's parent company is driven primarily by anger and revenge.

(Then why is it that Entercom outsells and outnegotiates Greater Media every day of the week? Anger and revenge? That would be Brian Maloney and Peter Smyth.)

In another way, Greater Media has also positioned itself well: recent rumors that Don Imus might return to WTKK were quickly quashed.

(Some rumors just don't stay "quashed".)

No wonder they'd prefer to believe Howie will soon return to WRKO. I think he'd rather meet up with Whitey Bulger in It-lee than go back to Guest Street, however.
With Howie Carr having quit the program, the big question is why his former affiliates haven't yet dumped it.

(I call the next four quotes, penned over three days in October "Delusional Suite".)

Meanwhile, I don't believe for a moment that Carr will end up back on WRKO, despite what Entercom suits would have us believe.

Tuning in for the first few minutes of what is still called "The Howie Carr Show", it just seemed incredible that WRKO and Entercom believe the station's remaining audience is that stupid.

Anybody not clear on this concept? He HATES the place and would rather be off the air than forced back to WRKO.

That said, every day that WRKO continues this phony "Howie Carr" charade only compounds the foolishness.
The station is only embarrassing itself by continuing this sham.

November

With Howie so close to caving and signing Entercom's deal, one would imagine company insiders could contain the gloating and general arrogance, at least until it has been finalized.
But amazingly, that's simply not the case. In a comment just posted at SaveWRKO, one insider even suggests Howie owes his (still former) WRKO co-workers an apology.

(Under the heading "Ceaseless Arrogance", he criticizes someone who suggests that Howie should consider apologizing to FELLOW EMPLOYEES he badmouthed publicly at length on WBZ-TV and WBZTV.com. Where's the arrogance in that?)

The main concession Howie is seeking is to knock off at least the last three years of his contract, in effect making him a short-timer upon his return to Guest Street. At the end of that abbreviated period, he would be free to go wherever he wants.

(I think he copied this one from a WGBH blog - nice to see he can do covers too.)
 
Cliff's Notes: Just another disgruntled ex-employee with a web site and a singular disinclination to provide facts when they get in the way of telling his tall tales.

Well done, DK.
 
Dark Knight said:
Now that Howie is back, I thought in the interests of equal time we should revisit some of Mr. Seldom Right and Wrong Again's commentary on the whole saga. Looking at this compendium of quotes juxtaposed with the actual end results should prove enlightening to the few out there who still lend credence to anything they read over on Mr. Objectivity's site. There were many other ridiculous quotes, but like any Greatest Hits collection, there are tough choices to make. The parenthetical commentary separated from the text is mine.

July
Carr has a history of ratings and revenue that is unmatched in Boston. In the entertainment business, that's what counts.

(Let's remember that when he starts bashing him because he's back on WRKO.)

Let's get real: it's in the best interests of both parties for Howie to move on without doing any further WRKO broadcasts. Why force him to work through September? It's just silly.

(How silly does it look now?)

Former WRKO morning drive host, Scott Allen Miller, has chimed in on Howie Carr's departure from WRKO to WTKK. Scotto predicts, "Within a year, WRKO will no longer be a news/talk station," I have to agree with him.

(At least Scott is a better host than he is a prognosticator - not so sure about the other guy.)

With their jobs on the line, Empress Kahn and Coffee Boy are adhering to Entercom's longstanding scorched earth policy regarding air talent. Despite Bay State laws that are entirely in Howie Carr's favor, can they really force him to remain with the station?

(Entirely in Carr's favor? Apparently his legal sense is as good as his prognostication skills.)

George Regan's infamous PR flak firm (which handles both WRKO and the Boston Herald) has just issued a statement saying Howie would remain at WRKO "for many years to come". Could they really be that delusional?

(Riiiight...)

August

Though said to be quite chummy with Empress Kahn, Kramer must by now be aware that the company's Boston operations have become an industry joke.

(It takes one to know one? Actually, Boston was singled out for praise on Entercom's last investor call, and they continue to grow market share every year, but don't let facts get in the way of a good story.)

We're hearing from a number of media-connected folks that Howie Carr's move to WTKK is now a near-certainty, despite the dueling lawsuits and hand-wringing by Entercom management.

(As usual, his sources have their fingers to the ground and their ear on the pulse of the industry.)

September

Why did any of you doubt me? WRKO is being destroyed on purpose. The sleazy ruling regime hates effective talk radio and will do anything to destroy it.

(Yes, and Kahn was planning to put a harpsichord in Carr's former office.)

Think about it: the one reasonably effective conservative on the air has now been removed! Think the Empress and CEO David Field, a key Democrat Party contributor, are really upset to see him axed from the radio? Hell, no!

(Does he realize that as Entercom is a publicly traded company, he's accusing them of a crime here? Probably.)

I don't think this is about keeping Howie from WTKK, rather, the goal is to stick it to someone who dares to deviate from their hippy - dippy political agenda.

We're hearing that as a result of WRKO supposedly "prevailing" in court, sales clients are being told that Howie isn't going anywhere and to expect him to return soon.
Would station advertisers really be foolish enough to believe that? How many are sticking around? Why does the Entercommie regime believe we are all so stupid?

(Momma always said stupid is as stupid does.)

It is downright kooky to continue to name a radio show after a person who has cleaned out his office and left the building.

As I had expected, Howie's legal case didn't go quite as well as his entourage hoped.

(When did he "expect" this? Certainly not when he was making the proclaimations we've read so far.)

October

While Entercom has been busy making enemies all over greater Boston, Carr and Greater Media have never looked better.

Like most non-Entercom stations, WTKK is interested in generating ratings and revenue, while WRKO's parent company is driven primarily by anger and revenge.

(Then why is it that Entercom outsells and outnegotiates Greater Media every day of the week? Anger and revenge? That would be Brian Maloney and Peter Smyth.)

In another way, Greater Media has also positioned itself well: recent rumors that Don Imus might return to WTKK were quickly quashed.

(Some rumors just don't stay "quashed".)

No wonder they'd prefer to believe Howie will soon return to WRKO. I think he'd rather meet up with Whitey Bulger in It-lee than go back to Guest Street, however.
With Howie Carr having quit the program, the big question is why his former affiliates haven't yet dumped it.

(I call the next four quotes, penned over three days in October "Delusional Suite".)

Meanwhile, I don't believe for a moment that Carr will end up back on WRKO, despite what Entercom suits would have us believe.

Tuning in for the first few minutes of what is still called "The Howie Carr Show", it just seemed incredible that WRKO and Entercom believe the station's remaining audience is that stupid.

Anybody not clear on this concept? He HATES the place and would rather be off the air than forced back to WRKO.

That said, every day that WRKO continues this phony "Howie Carr" charade only compounds the foolishness.
The station is only embarrassing itself by continuing this sham.

November

With Howie so close to caving and signing Entercom's deal, one would imagine company insiders could contain the gloating and general arrogance, at least until it has been finalized.
But amazingly, that's simply not the case. In a comment just posted at SaveWRKO, one insider even suggests Howie owes his (still former) WRKO co-workers an apology.

(Under the heading "Ceaseless Arrogance", he criticizes someone who suggests that Howie should consider apologizing to FELLOW EMPLOYEES he badmouthed publicly at length on WBZ-TV and WBZTV.com. Where's the arrogance in that?)

The main concession Howie is seeking is to knock off at least the last three years of his contract, in effect making him a short-timer upon his return to Guest Street. At the end of that abbreviated period, he would be free to go wherever he wants.

(I think he copied this one from a WGBH blog - nice to see he can do covers too.)

this is a classic. nice going, dk.

i hope the blogger and the raccoon crank take some time off. hopefully, together. it was getting to be very tiring to read their garbage on this board every single day.

howie has always been about howie. like i said from day one of his holdout, it's not about the quality of his one-dimensional show or his recycled herald columns. in 20 years, he had mastered the pavlovian concept of rinse and repeat for masses of boring wrko listeners. howie has built his whole media image(spokesperson for the boring people) around it. if some of you haven't figured it out by now, you will today at 3pm.
 
won't take time off...if you don't like my posts please feel free to skip over them.
"Boring WRKO listeners"? If he did his ratings would have stunk and they wouldn't have
cared if he jumped to Greater Media. Howie did an A-Rod and not everyone will be pleased
he's back

>>(spokesperson for the boring people)

Who listen to his show and have made it a big hit. As his predecessor would say, he's NOT boring!
 
Dark Knight, that was very well done. And Raccoon, keep on posting. The more views we see, the better we all are for it.
 
Howie did an A-Rod and not everyone will be pleased he's back

Actually, he didn't. A-Rod was a free agent.

Regards,
TSB
 
good point, but he has gone back to the mother ship. Needless to say A-Rod will probably
get along better with Hank & Hal Steinbrenner than Howie will with Julie and Jason, but whatever.

btw there's a countdown to Howie's return on the WRKO site but it's a bit inaccurate. He's not on at
3 straight up, it's more like 3:06:50 due to the newscast but close enough
 
Mr. Fact-Challenged has a banner on the upper right-hand corner of his main page: "Expose the Hypocrisy."

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP!!!
 
Whatever... this one is a hack, and this one is a hack, yet the biggest hack of all is...
(fill in the blank here)
A one-joke comic, and the joke ain't all that funny anymore, if indeed it ever was...
 
But Howie admitted today at the start that HE is a hack..he's taking all the holidays from now on.
At least he's not on the public trough, and if he's a one joke comic at least I think it's a good joke.
 
raccoonradio said:
won't take time off...if you don't like my posts please feel free to skip over them.
"Boring WRKO listeners"? If he did his ratings would have stunk and they wouldn't have
cared if he jumped to Greater Media. Howie did an A-Rod and not everyone will be pleased
he's back

>>(spokesperson for the boring people)

Who listen to his show and have made it a big hit. As his predecessor would say, he's NOT boring!

there's no census data on boring listeners. however, judging by how boring howie made a very comfortable living by perfecting boring radio there appears to be a very large number of them in wrko's signal range. you made my point. thank you.
 
Mr. Fact-Challenged has a banner on the upper right-hand corner of his main page: "Expose the Hypocrisy."

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP!!!


Ain't that the truth.

Q: What do you call a collection of Maloney's statements lifted directly from the SaveWRKO site ?

A: A smear campaign (according to Maloney's latest missive to the ill-informed masses.)

You really can't make this stuff up.

Regards,
TSB
 
Brian points out "this site has readers"...he also must be making a little bit of $$ thanks to ad
placement. One ad on his site is for Lions for Lambs, a film that conservatives are condemning
as anti-war propaganda, but he's getting money from that. (For that matter, film producer
and Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban has been getting lambasted by O'Reilly for the film
"Redacted" which also falls into that category but when Cuban asked Fox News if they'd accept
ads for the film, they replied, "sure". We'll have to see what BOR has to say about that :)
Money talks, Bill...what say you? Though certainly any media outlet might do the same.
A talk host could get on there and talk about gambling/casinos being evil and then here's a message
from our sponsor...Foxwoods! :)

(Though certainly media outlets have also been known to refuse ads. A Christian radio network
might refuse to accept ads for a certain film they may disagree with, for example...)

Maloney's also running ads for GOP/Libertarian candidate Ron Paul and I guess he got ads from
both sides of the gay marriage controversy.
 
I'll admit any number of politicians of either party would also call repeating of their statements a "smear
campaign"


Admit? Heck, it’s SOP. Unfortunately, SaveWRKO isn’t a politican, but a web site run by someone who is supposed to be aware of what is happening in the world of Boston talk radio in general, and WRKO in particular. In reality, this doesn’t seem to be the case. He, and his ‘ inside sources’, seem to be remarkably out of the loop.

Brian points out "this site has readers"..

Well, since it has posters, it's not much of a stretch to think it also has readers. In fact, Dark Knight must be a reader, since he posted the actual words which appeared on the site. Maloney's problem isn't that his site has readers, it's that his site has archives.

.he also must be making a little bit of $$ thanks to ad placement.

I don’t think anyone thinks he’s running those ads for free. Is there a point to this? Maloney was being hammered for his unerring ability to be on the wrong side of the facts, not on his business acumen.

One ad on his site is for Lions for Lambs, a film that conservatives are condemning as anti-war propaganda, but he's getting money from that. (For that matter, film producer and Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban has been getting lambasted by O'Reilly for the film
"Redacted" which also falls into that category but when Cuban asked Fox News if they'd accept ads for the film, they replied, "sure". We'll have to see what BOR has to say about that Money talks, Bill...what say you? Though certainly any media outlet might do the same.


Okay. An advertising medium taking advertising isn’t exactly headline type news. All media takes ads for products their writers and commentators badmouth. This is so obvious, it can’t possibly be your point, is it?

Interestingly, your examples, Lions and Redacted, are shaping up as two of the biggest bombs of the year, making Hollywood a perfect 5 for 5 on war movies grounded in the Bush Derangement Syndrome, which, also interestingly, is the same same success level SaveWRKO has achieved with reporting based on the Entercom Derangement Syndrome. There is a lesson to be learned here, but I’m sure Maloney has no idea what it is.

A talk host could get on there and talk about gambling/casinos being evil and then here's a message
from our sponsor...Foxwoods!


Ummm…so it appears that businesses have no problem letting politics get in the way of doing business. The question could be asked why he believes that Entercom DOES have a problem letting politics get in the way of doing business, especially when there is no evidence of it, but plenty of evident against it. But I guess that would be a ‘smear.’

Maloney's also running ads for GOP/Libertarian candidate Ron Paul and I guess he got ads from both sides of the gay marriage controversy.

And, again what does this show? I don’t remember anyone accusing Maloney of espousing the values of his advertisers, although I do hope he got his money up-front from Paul.

Regards,
TSB
 
Thank you DK! Well done. Didn't Brian predict that if Howie didn't join TTK he would semi retire to Palm Beach and write books?

Whenever reading SaveWRKO or it's sister blog one has to remember that Brian is a failed talk show host who had a try out at RKO and wasn't hired. He thinks he should have a regualr show in Boston and that is his sole motivation for his blog. He loves to call people names and make fun of their appearance but is very very sensitive when someone calls him on it.

My favorite post was his breaking story that Marjorie Claprood was coming back to RKO. He got this fron one of his inside sources. It turns out she was at the RKO offices one day to talk about a promotional project for her husbands foundation.

I kind of like the RadioRacoon especially since he has come off his Dennis Miller kick.
 
Well thanks but I still wish someone would pick up Dennis' show; I will say though that DM does work
best in front of an audience, which isn't the case on his radio show. The album he did in the late 80s or was it early 90s was great.

>>TTK
A common mis-spelling of 'TKK; 'TTK was one of the incaranations of 100.7, years ago.

Brian has been made fun of on the Liberal Talk Radio blog, though another left based blog--BlatherWatch--
has him listed under "Right Wing Blogs We Like; prolific former Seattle KVI, KIRO talk host speaks authoritatively about radio"
http://blatherwatch.blogs.com/

I am glad WTKK picked up Phil Hendrie, whom I'd pushed for, here and elsewhere.

>>two of the biggest bombs of the year, making Hollywood a perfect 5 for 5 on war movies grounded in the Bush Derangement Syndrome

Though the likes of Fat'N'White911Pounds* and A Convenient Lie did do well.

>>businesses have no problem letting politics get in the way of doing business
Indeed and I wonder if BOR will acknowledge the "Cuban's movie advertised on my network" bit
should he get an email from a viewer about it.

*--spoof of the poster for the Moore movie done by SacredCowBurgers.
 
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