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Hows does one define success net broadcasting...

I am interested to know how other Internet Broadcasters define success...

How many listener minutes define a successful station?

If you are a show do you base it on how many stations carry your show?

Is it purely the $$$ if you are making money you are a success?

There are an ever growing number of people broadcasting on the Internet and honestly a majority of it is not very good nor is it usually ever heard accept for the incidental video or clip that goes viral...

So with so many people broadcasting on the Internet how do you measure yourself and what goals or marks have you set or achieved which you consider significant...
 
While making a profit would be a financial show of success, that should not be the reason for personal Internet Broadcasters... as most will not reach that point.

However, I see success not a specific number of listener hours, but being able to maintain the listeners hours you have, or even better to able to grow your listeners. Also, getting feedback and responding to your listeners. That is success to me. It means those who listen, continue to do so and/or more come to listen, and that those who listen contact you with requests and comments, and you in turn respond. It's radio that listens to its listeners.

I'm more interested in that kind of success than the corporate goal of having the most listeners, or making money hand over fist. However, breaking even or even making a bit of a profit would be nice as well.

We are a station with DJs that used to work at the original FM station and now volunteer their time to the Internet version of the station. We play our own shows, and run some syndicated shows as they relate to our all 80s format (i.e. Back To The 80s, Totally 80s, The Real 80s). Listener satisfaction, gives us satisfaction and a feeling that we are successful in what we do. Once again I should mention that if we can make money while doing it, that makes it even better and less of a burden on my own wallet.

Vincent Riley
Program Director
STAR1079.com
America's First 80s Station
 
I think this is a great question. I ask myself this same thing a lot!

When I began streaming nine years ago, I was working at an A, daytimer at the time. A lot
oif my on-air time was spent playing preachers back-to-back. Since there was no one else
in the building at the same time I was, it got quite lonely..and boring.

I began my station with contemporary Christian music to "have something to listen to" while running the board for the AM station.

With the advent of K-Love, Way-FM and numerous other Christian broadcasters, the AM eventually was leased out to a Catholic group. I bought the CCM music from the AM, but
just didn't seem to have many listeners to the stream.

I flipped to my favorite music, country, in July of 2003, and the station seemed to take off.
Now, having been on the beach for a while, I'm trying to take the station to the next level.

I do not know if I'd call it a success just yet.

However, the image of internet radio is a kid with a computer in their bedroom. My station does have something in common with this - two studios in two rooms of the house.

A full physical music library spanning 50 years of country music, and Christian music from roughly 1977 through the mid 2000's takes up most of the space. I recently bought an office trailer for the station, have started a live-and-local weekday morning show, and am getting ready to roll out T-shirts and other station-branded apparel.

The music labels are pretty much sending me everything I ask for. The morning show plays more of the newer stuff, but I still play classic country...often. That gives us a more full-service approach to country.

It is now syndicated via Radio Terra:

http://radio.terra.com/station/big-d-country/255956


At any given time, there are roughly 1800 songs on the "active" playlist. These do get changed, but larger than that seems to be too big, even for country.

Because there are no radio jobs here, and not many of any other kind either, I've recently decided to just give it the energy I would if I'd just paid a heap of money for a terrestrial.

I love radio. It's the only occupation I ever loved and had a passion for. I'm running on that passion, frustration, and fear, I suppose.
 
You can't define success without a goal. And goals in Internet streaming will be different for every station. For a Pakistani station broadcasting in NYC, their goal may be to bring a taste of their homeland to the expatriate community in a way that everyone can hear and participate. For a religious station, it may simply to express their thankfulness toward god. It all depends.

If you have a genre music station, you probably have several goals. A goal of "get a lot of listeners" isn't very inspiring and is, in fact, too general. If you really wanted to get a lot of listeners, you'd probably pick different music. A more compelling goal would be to "serve the people who love this kind of music and introduce them to more of cool music in this genre." In other words, listenership isn't a goal, it's a measuring stick at how successful you are at reaching your real goal.

Ultimately, questions like "how do you define success" can't be generalized. You need to define it for YOUR specific situation.

Jim Kerr
VP/Strategy
Triton Media
 
I'm glad that people are chiming in its nice to hear what others are doing and what kind of goals they set for themselves.

Personally KXRX.net has just celebrated our first full year of broadcasting 24/7/365 and I am really proud of what I have accomplished in such a short time considering that unlike most people who choose to operate a serious Internet station I have had no real terrestrial radio experience other than my media company designing web sites and creatives for terrestrial stations...

Granted I have always wanted to be involved in radio but once you achieve a certain level of success and have children it is hard to make a career switch with other mouths to feed.

Now with the girls grown myself single and owning my own company the time seemed right to do something selfish and for myself. So when I heard there was a small station going dark and was selling everything I attended the sale and purchased a couple boards, signal processors, assorted microphones and other equipment including the stations entire music collection which covered Rock, Country, Hip Hop, ranging from 1950 - 2008 and I went for it....

The station is a rock formatted station and has been very well received in Seattle where we are based. In fact after a year we have reached a point where we have to decide if we are doing this as a hobby or if we are going to make it something more than that.

We are getting requests from clubs & bands to present shows as well as do live events and people are asking for a more public presence.

Thus why I asked my question... I have never had any illusions of getting rich or making a ton of money doing this but obviously as it grows it must at least pay its own way.

Exciting times for us internet broadcasters and I am glad I will be along for the ride!
 
V.Riley said:
Also, getting feedback and responding to your listeners. That is success to me. It means those who listen, continue to do so and/or more come to listen, and that those who listen contact you with requests and comments, and you in turn respond. It's radio that listens to its listeners.

I go along with this, as well as the other post that states how you define what is success.

A few years ago, my station grew beyond my wildest dreams however cost me a fortune in streaming/license fees. I scaled right back and now I'm more than happy with where I am. The feedback I get is encouraging and I'm taking baby steps to grow it a little more. Happiness is defined on not raiding the piggy bank any more than I do now :)
 
I'm small on the internet landscape. but with over 40,000 streams through shoutcast, even if I get a couple regular listeners, I'm successful. I get to program what I want, when I want and have fun, which I couldn't in the rigid formats of commerical radio. It's a hobby for me and a chance to get some use out of some vintage studio gear. It costs virtually nothing except bandwidth, a server and up here in canada, a SOCAN fee (for no revenue, it's about $100/yr) so i'm happy. It's mine.
 
Great insight as to how you define success. Each of us has goals and some sort of "mission".. no matter how small or big, I'd like to think that having come thus far, we have ALL achieved a measure of success.

Best wishes in 2011, all!
 
Re: How does one define success net broadcasting...

Here's my story as far as Internet radio:




Wednesday, December 1, 2010




Legally blind man pursues dream of country radio
Dec 1, 2010
radioboyalan says
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Alan McCall of Tallahassee has had almost lifelong loves of two interests - country music and radio.

Now 52, McCall has been legally blind since birth from cataracts. Several childhood surgeries improved his sight somewhat, but it remains 20/400 to the present day. He was supposed to end up at the Florida School for the Deaf and Blind - but he never spent a single day there.

This boy has really surprised us," remarked the late Dr. Harold Ward, one of the surgeons. "He has a fierce determination that I can't quite explain."

At age 12, he won a prize (an Elvis Presley 45-rpm record called "When You Talk in Your Sleep") from the then-country WMEN radio station. He was fascinated with the station's control room, which he was able to observe while picking up the prize (which he still has, incidentally.)

His love of country music grew, and McCall remembers listening almost exclusively to country radio while he was in high school. At the time, he often listened to small town AM country stations during family vacations.

He began collecting country music in 1971, and has never stopped.

"My wife, Marianne, could have her own sewing and craft room if there weren't so many records and CDs stored in our house," he laughs.

McCall studied journalism and English and worked for Tallahassee Community College's student newspaper, The Talon, from 1977 to 1979. He finally broke into the radio business during the fall of 1979, after relentlessly applying for jobs, sometimes multiple times. It took him six attempts before being hired at WTAL in Tallahassee, working overnights at first, and later evenings and long Sunday shifts.

He went on to attend Florida State University, where he graduated with a Bachelor of Science degree in communications in 1984.

He also landed another radio job, at Christian-formatted WCVC-AM. He began as a weekend announcer, but later worked stints there in programming, sales and promotions, and one as a local station manager. Interestingly enough, WCVC was the once-country WMEN mentioned earlier.

That job ended in 2004, and McCall found himself "on the beach" - radio jargon for "out of work."

He spent the next several years devoted primarily to his family - homeschooling two young step-grandsons, Benjamin and Daniel, now ages six and seven. Their mother stopped working in August to be a stay at home mom, and take over homeschooling.

That's when McCall found himself feeling lost.

"Suddenly, I felt as if I had no real purpose in like," he says. "I began taking a course in grant writing, and am planning to do that kind of work on a part-time basis. But I had two other passions - radio and country music."

This fall, he began the transition of turning what once was a hobby - his Internet station on Live365.com - into something more. He tweaked the format, which had been a hybrid of country and oldies, into a solid country station. The music includes a healthy dose of classic country, although it also now includes the current Top 30 country singles.

His station, now branded as "WJJD - Big D Country," is attempting what few webcasters have - live and local Internet radio. Big D Country is targeted specifically to Tallahassee and the North Florida and South Georgia area. McCall hosts a weekday morning show complete with traffic, weather, community calendar events, and other elements you might expect to hear on an over-the-air station.

All of Big D Country's programming is done by McCall. He is constantly on the look for country music.

"I have a lot of music, but invariably I'll get a request for something we don't have," he says. He would still like to buy the TM Century Traditional Country library, but says it's a bit too expensive for the station to afford right now. The station is owned by Delta Star Radio of Florida, Inc., which McCall founded in 2001. His wife and parents are the other directors of the corporation, which is a registered Florida non-profit, but is not a 501(c)3.

Delta Star Radio has recently purchased an office trailer, so Marianne McCall may get her craft and sewing room after all. The company has also purchased some updated equipment, including a new control board and CD burner for production.

"I absolutely love the full service country format," McCall says. "I'm putting a lot of thought and time into developing it."

Big D Country streams through Live365, and recently has had its stream syndicated by Radio Terra, offering the station's broadcast to a worldwide audience.

He also hopes to one day be able to visit Nashville - the only place he says he hasn't seen but would really like to.

"I'm not too keen on traveling," says McCall. "I'm a homebody for the most part."

While he hopes the station can ultimately provide an income, he realizes it will be a difficult and slow path.

McCall's income now is Social Security, which he earned after working for 24 years. Marianne McCall works for Leon County Schools, but has had her hours cut and benefits slashed.

"We're having a hard time making it," she sighs. "Our roof leaks despite numerous attempts of repairing it and now the kitchen floor is starting to cave in, in places."

She really would like to be able to work along with her husband with the Internet radio station, she says. But for now, "we have to eat," so she continues working with the schools. She has been looking for better paying positions recently.

McCall does feel the strain and is preparing a media kit to aid with sales. They will offer low-cost packages to area businesses, and time availabilities for churches on Sunday.

Despite their current situation, McCall is hopeful that pursuing the country radio station will ultimately pay off for them.

"If we can just pay our bills and get out of debt, I'll consider this venture successful," he says.



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The station's website is http://www.bigdcountry.com. Alan McCall can be contacted at [email protected].
 
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