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HUB CHANNEL IN JEOPARDY

HUB is in debt.

Duhh, do you think it might be all those expensive kiddie game shows and such
they produce bringing them down? Does anybody watch those? I'm sure Rocky &
Bullwinkle would be a lot cheaper.

I think many were wanting a more retro slant to the network instead of a Nickelodeon
Jr. which it is getting closer to each day. They need more Wonder Years or retro-
cartoons and less "Papa Bear & The Beachnuts" and "Zebras In Space" type cartoon
programs. The kiddie market is pretty saturated at this point.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/06/is-...iscovery-debt-filing-raises-that-possibility/
 
I definitely don't think they should get rid of the Hub. They have so many classics, such as "JEM" and "Fraggle Rock," which I never thought would come back to broadcast TV.
 
HUB is never on in my house. I have a 2, a 4, and a 6 year old. The only things that they watch are one of the Nick channels or one of the Disney channels, sometimes Sprout and every once and awhile Boomerang. My 6 year old daughter thinks its great that Boomerang shows cartoons that were on when I was young.
 
It seems that Discovery has not one, but two white elephants -- OWN being the other. Even though Hasbro owns the Hub brand and programs the channel, Discovery owns the infrastructure and part of the action.
 
Hub probably has a good future as a digital subchannel. And who can have enough of those, right?
 
nomadcowatbk said:
OWN and Hub have weak channel positions on most cable systems

On DirecTv, FiOS, and Xfinity, Hub is bunched with all the other children's channels. I'm sure OWN is on "basic" cable on Xfinity. Discovery Health was on analog cable.
 
nomadcowatbk said:
OWN and Hub have weak channel positions on most cable systems

That is it, in a nutshell. And no, OWN is NOT on "basic" cable on most of Xfinity. Not even in the Chicago area. Hub is a digital package-only channel and it hasn't really had that much promotion.

Around our house, our little one watches quite a few shows on Hub, just as she does on Sprout and Nick Jr. So, I hope that Hub continues as-is.

As for OWN, I really couldn't care less. If anything, I'd like to see this monument to the overly bloated ego of its namesake go away.
 
It doesn't matter where you put them and where they are on. They are still going to have
lousy ratings. Just putting them on Xfinity........everybody's gonna suddenly start watching,
I don't think so.

Their programming and target audience is not working. They can change programming and
seek an older audience, or do nothing and just continue to fail.
 
BRNout said:
As for OWN, I really couldn't care less.  If anything, I'd like to see this monument to the overly bloated ego of its namesake go away.

I would simply type, "I don't care" rather than "I really couldn't care less", which sounds awkward alone without first stating you don't care. Even though it is meant to be a sharp, negative remark, it has always sounded awkward to me.

As for HUB programming in my area, it is available as part of the digital preferred programming tier from Comcast while programming from the Oprah Winfrey Network (OWN) is part of the digital standard programming tier. I have access to programming from the HUB using Comcast On Demand. I was able to watch an entire episode of "Fraggle Rock" for the first time this way and an episode of "Dan Vs.". 
 
Mario-500 said:
I would simply type, "I don't care" rather than "I really couldn't care less", which sounds awkward alone without first stating you don't care. Even though it is meant to be a sharp, negative remark, it has always sounded awkward to me.

It may sound awkward to you, but it is grammatically correct. Which is more than can be said of a lot of what I read on posts here.

And it is true: I could not possibly care less about Oprah's doings. It is impossible for anyone to care less than zero.
 
nomadcowatbk said:
OWN and Hub are not in the basic analog package on Time Warner

On Bright House in Tampa Bay, OWN is part of the basic analog package, but Hub is digital only (as was its predecessor, Discovery Kids).
 
BRNout said:
And it is true: I could not possibly care less about Oprah's doings. It is impossible for anyone to care less than zero.
You tell them, BRNout! ;D
It's surprising, though, how we ended up talking to Oprah in a topic about a children's channel. She seems to be everywhere no matter what ::)
 
I would not consider the Hub "a children's channel", but more of a service appealing to audiences in general.
 
The Hub is kind of a hodge-podge. I don't really know about it.....not really sure if they can ever compete with the others, really. I wish they would have used the space for something else.

Even though Hub and OWN are bombs for Discovery (so far, at least), they have seen success with Investigation Discovery/ID.
 
The only show I watch on Hub is "Family Game Night"; don't care about the others.

But when it was Discovery Kids, they aired reruns of "Popular Mechanics For Kids", hosted by a younger Elisha Cuthbert (now starring on ABC's "Happy Endings").
 
Aren't the old BATMAN tv series from the 1960's broadcast on Hub?
 
The channel's ratings are so low, so far Discovery and Hasbro have been very relaxed about pulling shows off YouTube; witness how many accounts have held full HD episodes of "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" without even a strike at all (which has among the biggest online and unexpectedly male fandoms right now because of the reputation of it being made by Lauren Faust).

I'm not ready to call the channel a flop yet, not by a longshot. Noggin/The N/TeenNick, Toon Disney/Disney XD and Nicktoons Network also landed on cable like a lead balloon and still have half the ratings of the Big Three. Discovery Kids meanwhile was always treated as an afterthought for years as a dependable pipe for the Nelvana and Cinar series that the big nets and PBS rejected (along with broadcast stations who will just run their tapes of "Critter Gitters" and "Jack Hanna" into dust). It's good they at least did something in the first place and they knew the first year was going to be a bumpy one as they figured out nobody needed a new "Pound Puppies" series in the world, another Byron Allen-quality celebrity gush-fest (which is what their "newsmagazine" "Hubworld" is) or blatant shows which solely exist to sell a toy line; MLP:FIM has not gone that direction at all, "Pound Puppies" and "Strawberry Shortcake" did, while "Dan Vs." is actually unexpectedly good considering what network it's on.
 
Madmansam said:
Aren't the old BATMAN tv series from the 1960's broadcast on Hub?

Yes it is kinda reminds you of the old Family Channel before ABC and FOX came in and put their trash on it. How many times are they gonna show Harry Potter? And since when Eddie Murphy Coming To America considered family movie. But back to the Hub they are showing programs from my childhood. But a good thing never last. Im sure the network will relaunch in a year. The Transformers new cartoon looks good to me
 
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