KYSR isn't a SAG-AFTRA covered station.
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Hudson Hott Signs Off From KYSR
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The engineering union is different than the SAG-AFTRA talent union. Some stations don't like for non-engineering union members to touch their equipment, which makes sense.
That's my point. However if you read the NABET contract with KQED San Francisco in post #18, it says that announcers & producers are permitted to use some equipment. So every place is different.
Actually, if you listen to some of those European national commercial networks, they are generally better sounding than local stations, even in the largest markets, in the U.S.
Additionally, they use technology so that you can drive across a whole nation without touching the dial... the radio switches to the best signal always.
Add in the extensive web presence for things like local events, weather, traffic and the like as well as format variants and the whole concept if a lot better. My personal favorite is Nostalgie from Paris. The alternative formats are here https://www.nostalgie.fr/webradios/mur-des-radios/nostalgie-italia
Nostalgie is great
I'd say that it is the union that wants to keep the jocks from running their own board, for example. No PD that I know would ever want someone else to run the board for their air talent.
K.M. Richards
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So now I am back to asking my original question ...
If neither KIOI or KYSR are SAG-AFTRA, why didn't iHeart just keep her in middays at KYSR and let her track from N.C.?
Dude that is a GR8 question. Iheart should answer that and also why ravey got let go from there Kysr morning show the woody show?
Only the engineering union. Most major market stations have Engineering unions with engineers hanging around or on-call (stuff has to get fixed when it breaks), though not every station is covered by the SAG-AFTRA (talent) union. The Engineering union often has a preference about non-members using their equipment. It isn't something that Programmers or SAG-AFTRA would decide; radio management aren't part of SAG-AFTRA. At most stations in the last 30 years most stations have gone away from the "Engineers run the talent's board" model to save money. Most jocks I know have always run our own board. Believe me, PD's (actually, GM's) would rather save that money than give an extra producer or engineer/board-op to the jock to run their board! Even at KNX, which is running on a shoestring, where they *should* have extra producers in News & Traffic either producing or running boards for their talent, don't. It's sad, and makes extra work for the talent. Even at a union station...not a lot of money but a lot more work and a lot more stress.
That's true. Every station, or sometimes cluster, has their own Collective Bargaining Agreement. But the Engineering union is negotiated quite separately from anything regarding the SAG-AFTRA contracts. There are 19 contracts within SAG-AFTRA, like TV/Theatrical (the one that was on strike last year), Commercials, etc, and each Broadcast outlet, if represented, negotiates their own.
Because whether a station is represented by a union or not has no bearing on whether or not the station hires and fires people. The union negotiates minimum wages, and working conditions. That includes increments of severance when a person is fired. If they are fired by a non-union station, the talent's severance is based on whatever the talent negotiated for their individual Personal Service Contract, usually within boilerplate Company policy guidelines, when they got hired. Did Ms. Hott quit or get fired? Sounds like she chose to step down from FT and is relocating and negotiated a voicetracking deal, and not like she got fired. If that's the case, severance wouldn't likely be an issue in her case because she's not severing.
Now, with Kevin & Sluggo from KLOS, that *is* a SAG-AFTRA station, and they were there a long time, so hopefully they got a good severance package, plus they had accumulated a fair amount of pension contributions for later in life when they need it. You don't lose your union pension when you lose a job; that's your money and it's there for you.
Yes I know. As I said, I was in both unions. I know where the lines are. That's why I was so surprised when I saw NABET gave up technical jurisdictions to producers and announcers at KQED, who are now in AFTRA. This particular NABET contract was signed before the news staff joined AFTRA. We'll see what happens the next time the NABET deal comes up for renewal.
Kevin was only at KLOS for 3 years. Sluggo was there longer.
They either negotiated severance at the beginning of their terms, or have company severance allowances per company policy. Doesn't necessarily mater how long; only anyone who works there knows what the policy is. But anyone can negotiate for anything. If you have grounds to sue, you can threaten and bargain for a better deal. If the union had a provision for severance in the contract, they could use SAG as a reference/advocate in making sure they receive that. In any case, hopefully they bargained shrewdly to get a good package.
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