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Hurricane relief across Iowa?

Anyone know of any media outlets doing, or planning any sort of hurricane relief effort? The damage down there is probably going to reach 20-30 Billion, and that total only rises as New Orleans finds itself under deeper waters.
 
> Anyone know of any media outlets doing, or planning any sort
> of hurricane relief effort? The damage down there is
> probably going to reach 20-30 Billion, and that total only
> rises as New Orleans finds itself under deeper waters.
>

I heard that KZIA has a semi trailer from CRST that they will be taking donations Thursday and Friday
First at Allen Kia on Thurs then Coral Ridge on Fri.
 
> > Anyone know of any media outlets doing, or planning any
> sort
> > of hurricane relief effort? The damage down there is
> > probably going to reach 20-30 Billion, and that total only
>
> > rises as New Orleans finds itself under deeper waters.
> >
>
> I heard that KZIA has a semi trailer from CRST that they
> will be taking donations Thursday and Friday
> First at Allen Kia on Thurs then Coral Ridge on Fri.
>

That's kinda stupid...since the Red Cross and Salvation Army have specifically requested people NOT to donate goods...just cash.

Besides...haven't they seen the news? There are no roads...

StormAid.com
1-800-HELP NOW
 
> > > Anyone know of any media outlets doing, or planning any
> > sort
> > > of hurricane relief effort? The damage down there is
> > > probably going to reach 20-30 Billion, and that total
> only
> >
> > > rises as New Orleans finds itself under deeper waters.
> > >
> >
> > I heard that KZIA has a semi trailer from CRST that they
> > will be taking donations Thursday and Friday
> > First at Allen Kia on Thurs then Coral Ridge on Fri.
> >
>
> That's kinda stupid...since the Red Cross and Salvation Army
> have specifically requested people NOT to donate
> goods...just cash.
>
> Besides...haven't they seen the news? There are no roads...
>
> StormAid.com
> 1-800-HELP NOW
>
Understood that there are no roads..now... but there will be,and even if they are not going to get into N.O. itself, I am sure that the people and area organizations will put the items to good use. At least KZIA is doing something. Or is it that you are one of those people that would complain about anything that KZIA does?
 
> >
> Understood that there are no roads..now... but there will
> be,and even if they are not going to get into N.O. itself, I
> am sure that the people and area organizations will put the
> items to good use. At least KZIA is doing something. Or is
> it that you are one of those people that would complain
> about anything that KZIA does?
>

Nope. No problem with it. It's just that the Red Cross and Salvation Army have specifically said they don't want items sent...only money. If people collect a bunch of stuff and send it, usually it goes to waste because it's not necessarily the items they NEED. 911 comes to mind. With money, people can buy exactly what they need.

More power to Z...go get em. I just think it's a hell of a waste of good PR.

I'm sure the relief people have enough to do without having to sort and categorize a bunch of stuff jammed into a truck. A check is nice and simple.
 
> I'm sure the relief people have enough to do without having
> to sort and categorize a bunch of stuff jammed into a truck.
> A check is nice and simple.
>
The stuff should be pretty organized. They were saying that all the stuff they collected is going to a distributor where it will be sorted, repacked and shipped. I also remember hearing that "feed the children" is envolved with it as well. All in all there were 9 semi trailers FULL of food, water, baby items, and cleaning and hygiene products.

You are making it sound like they pulled up the trailers , opened them up, then let people just toss their stuff in and where it lands, it lands.
Not the case at all. And I am also pretty sure that there is a plan of action once they arrive. They aren't just going to get down there and say "we're here, now what?"
 
> > I'm sure the relief people have enough to do without
> having
> > to sort and categorize a bunch of stuff jammed into a
> truck.
> > A check is nice and simple.
> >
> The stuff should be pretty organized. They were saying that
> all the stuff they collected is going to a distributor where
> it will be sorted, repacked and shipped. I also remember
> hearing that "feed the children" is envolved with it as
> well. All in all there were 9 semi trailers FULL of food,
> water, baby items, and cleaning and hygiene products.
>
> You are making it sound like they pulled up the trailers ,
> opened them up, then let people just toss their stuff in and
> where it lands, it lands.
> Not the case at all. And I am also pretty sure that there is
> a plan of action once they arrive. They aren't just going to
> get down there and say "we're here, now what?"
>
When you go to stormaid.com, you see it is a Clear Channel charity which explains LowDown's motives. 'nuff said.
 
> >
> When you go to stormaid.com, you see it is a Clear Channel
> charity which explains LowDown's motives. 'nuff said.
>

Yup, my motives must be really awful. The Red Cross is such a horrible thing to be associated with...

I got the site from another website along with

www.redcross.org

www.salvationarmyusa.org

All I'm saying is that if every charitable organization is saying give money because that's what they need right now...it's silly to load up a bunch of stuff, spend a week on the road (and/or organization center) trying to get it to the people in need, only to have it sit in an area where no one can deal with it.

If I'm hearing the news right, by the time it's delivered, no one will be in New Orleans in a week's time anyway except clean up crews. The entire city's population is being evacuated to far flung states willing to accept "refugees"...the expectation is that people will be spread out over more than 10 different states. What they need is money. Money for room and board...basic necessitites, and income replacement...even mortgage payments (although that may sound strange, it's true...you still have to pay your mortgage).

Imagine being a "refugee" in Houston...alone in a city unfamiliar to you, displaced relatives still missing, living in a hotel or motel, and hearing that some Iowan's have gathered a truck of bottled water and blankets and stuff. What good does that do you?

This is not a typical disaster...and the typical response (while good intentioned) isn't what they need right now.

As I said from the outset...good intentions, but a waste of PR. I'll listen to the story on the radio of how the items are received and dispersed, but I'd be willing to bet that Z won't air it if what I've said turns out to be true...

From Red Cross Website (http://www.redcross.org/donate/goods/):

"Donations of goods and services, also known as in-kind donations, can be valuable resources on a relief effort. However, misguided in-kind donations can also have the effect of hampering the relief effort if inappropriate or excessive contributions arriving at the disaster site impede the distribution of priority items..."

and

"Unsolicited, spontaneous donations of goods and services from individuals and community groups, though well intentioned, have hidden costs and pose a number of complications for relief efforts. For these reasons, the Red Cross is unable to accept any large collections of items, such as used clothing, hygiene items, furniture, toys, and canned goods..."

and

"Collections of items require valuable and scarce resources such as time, money, and personnel to sort, clean, and distribute them, which come at the expense of the emergency activities relief workers are attempting to perform. The Red Cross has neither the resources, nor the logistical set-up, to properly handle these types of donations, and therefore cannot accept them..."

Need I say more?<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by LowDown on 09/04/05 07:16 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Well if the Red Cross can't handle that type of donation the its probably a good thing Z is NOT USING THE RED CROSS. Man you need to read the other posts before you respond.
Yes the Red Cross is doing a fantastic job and money donations are needed as they are spending more than they are taking in, BUT, all the donations Z took in are going to feed the children then FEMA.
Taken right from the FEMA web site

"If you have an offer of goods or services, please call our hotline at 1-800-440-6728. A representative will take your name and information on how to contact you, as well as what type of goods or services you wish to donate. Donation offers may include temporary housing for disaster victims, vehicles, construction equipment, food, clothing, or other offers that may assist those displaced by Hurricane Katrina."

So they, are , able to handle donations of this type.
 
> Well if the Red Cross can't handle that type of donation the
> its probably a good thing Z is NOT USING THE RED CROSS. Man
> you need to read the other posts before you respond.
> Yes the Red Cross is doing a fantastic job and money
> donations are needed as they are spending more than they are
> taking in, BUT, all the donations Z took in are going to
> feed the children then FEMA.
> Taken right from the FEMA web site
>
> "If you have an offer of goods or services, please call our
> hotline at 1-800-440-6728. A representative will take your
> name and information on how to contact you, as well as what
> type of goods or services you wish to donate. Donation
> offers may include temporary housing for disaster victims,
> vehicles, construction equipment, food, clothing, or other
> offers that may assist those displaced by Hurricane
> Katrina."
>
> So they, are , able to handle donations of this type.
>

KZIA filled 10 trucks, with 22 shrink wrapped pallets, for a total weight of 54 tons. They did this a while back with another hurricane that hit florida, they are pretty good with this kind of stuff.

Also, KCRG TV and KZIA are teaming up to help out Katrina victims.

KCRG-TV9 and KZIA are partnering with the American Red Cross for Blood & Bucks. The relief campaign returns to KCRG-TV9/KZIA next week. Last year, we raised more than $55,000 to help victims of another hurricane; people also donated more than 300 units of blood. After seeing what Katrina has done to the Gulf Coast, there's no doubt that these victims can use any help they can get. Live hurricane relief coverage will be all day on KCRG-TV9 beginning next Wednesday and continuing through Friday. We hope you are able to help.
 
As I understand it, as long as the items are non-parishables, the charitable organizations are accepting things, with the understanding that they might just sit until they have a place to ship them to where they can actually be used.

In a situation like this, where relief will be needed for months and not days, this sort of thing can be very good. Several trucks filled with items that can be used a month down the road when life has returned to normal for most of us could be a Godsend!

I applaud ANYONE working to help these people.


> > Well if the Red Cross can't handle that type of donation
> the
> > its probably a good thing Z is NOT USING THE RED CROSS.
> Man
> > you need to read the other posts before you respond.
> > Yes the Red Cross is doing a fantastic job and money
> > donations are needed as they are spending more than they
> are
> > taking in, BUT, all the donations Z took in are going to
> > feed the children then FEMA.
> > Taken right from the FEMA web site
> >
> > "If you have an offer of goods or services, please call
> our
> > hotline at 1-800-440-6728. A representative will take your
>
> > name and information on how to contact you, as well as
> what
> > type of goods or services you wish to donate. Donation
> > offers may include temporary housing for disaster victims,
>
> > vehicles, construction equipment, food, clothing, or other
>
> > offers that may assist those displaced by Hurricane
> > Katrina."
> >
> > So they, are , able to handle donations of this type.
> >
>
> KZIA filled 10 trucks, with 22 shrink wrapped pallets, for a
> total weight of 54 tons. They did this a while back with
> another hurricane that hit florida, they are pretty good
> with this kind of stuff.
>
> Also, KCRG TV and KZIA are teaming up to help out Katrina
> victims.
>
> KCRG-TV9 and KZIA are partnering with the American Red Cross
> for Blood & Bucks. The relief campaign returns to
> KCRG-TV9/KZIA next week. Last year, we raised more than
> $55,000 to help victims of another hurricane; people also
> donated more than 300 units of blood. After seeing what
> Katrina has done to the Gulf Coast, there's no doubt that
> these victims can use any help they can get. Live hurricane
> relief coverage will be all day on KCRG-TV9 beginning next
> Wednesday and continuing through Friday. We hope you are
> able to help.
>
 
> In a situation like this, where relief will be needed for
> months and not days, this sort of thing can be very good.
> Several trucks filled with items that can be used a month
> down the road when life has returned to normal for most of
> us could be a Godsend!
>
> I applaud ANYONE working to help these people.
>

I do as well...but HOW they're doing it is hurting more than helping. AP report today said a recent Goodwill collection has trucks are waiting to be transported, but they have no one to transport them...and NO DESTINATION to take them to...NO ONE to process and sort them once they arrive.


> Well if the Red Cross can't handle that type of donation
> the its probably a good thing Z is NOT USING THE RED CROSS.
> Man you need to read the other posts before you respond.
> Yes the Red Cross is doing a fantastic job and money
> donations are needed as they are spending more than they
> are taking in, BUT, all the donations Z took in are going to
> feed the children then FEMA.
> Taken right from the FEMA web site
>
> "If you have an offer of goods or services, please call
> our hotline at 1-800-440-6728. A representative will take
> your name and information on how to contact you, as well as
> what type of goods or services you wish to donate. Donation
> offers may include temporary housing for disaster
> victims

Not exactly sure FEMA is the best source for how to help in this particular situation...given their record so far. And again...as of today, there are VERY FEW PEOPLE LEFT to feed in New Orleans.

Look...it's as simple as Peter Tehan (CR and National Red Cross spokesperson) explained:

"Money will help them buy the items they need...AS they need them. In addition, the money used in the state and community where it's sent will help the local economy recover by purchasing the needed items locally."

New Orleans would be better served if they unloaded all that crap and held a massive garage sale as a fund raiser. Come to think of it...that's not a bad idea.

I know it feels good to think they're helping...but I'll wait for the results and be proven right. Overall results...not just isolated incidents. I doubt much more than 20-percent of that stuff will be used by anyone.
 
> I knew there was a reason I donated goods instead of money...


<a target="_blank" href=http://www.click2houston.com/money/4972026/detail.html>www.click2houston.com/money/4972026/detail.html</a>
 
> > I knew there was a reason I donated goods instead of
> money...
>
>
> www.click2houston.com/money/4972026/detail.html
>

Those were debit cards from the government...and they've been discontinued.

Try this: http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=KATRINA-DONATE-09-18-05&cat=AN
----------------------
Flood of donations overwhelming charities

By GWEN FLORIO
Scripps Howard News Service
September 18, 2005

- First came the floods that devastated New Orleans.
Then came another sort of torrent, one that threatens to overwhelm groups trying to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina.
Call it too much of a good thing: the donations of furniture, toys and clothing - "a Mount Everest" of clothes at the Salvation Army alone - filling warehouses, truck trailers and even churches as people comb their homes for castaway items to send to those who lost everything in the storm.
"It's sometimes called the second disaster," said Carynaceynes of United Way, which is coordinating the acceptance of donations for Denver-area nonprofits.

and this...

"The sorting, the cost involved in packaging and distributing smaller receipts like a truckload of toys, is almost greater than the costs of purchasing items locally," she said.

It will cost the organization so much to sort and package clothing, and dispose of unusable donations, that "we're figuring to probably go $150,000 in the hole this month," he said.
-----------------------------------

Waiting to see this as part of Z's post promotion items...but doubt I will.
 
> ----------------------
> Flood of donations overwhelming charities
>
> First came the floods that devastated New Orleans.
> Then came another sort of torrent, one that threatens to
> overwhelm groups trying to help the victims of Hurricane
> Katrina.
> Call it too much of a good thing: the donations of
> furniture, toys and clothing - "a Mount Everest" of clothes
> at the Salvation Army alone - filling warehouses, truck
> trailers and even churches as people comb their homes for
> castaway items to send to those who lost everything in the
> storm.
> "It's sometimes called the second disaster," said
> Carynaceynes of United Way, which is coordinating the
> acceptance of donations for Denver-area nonprofits.
>
> and this...
>
> "The sorting, the cost involved in packaging and
> distributing smaller receipts like a truckload of toys, is
> almost greater than the costs of purchasing items locally,"
> she said.
>
> It will cost the organization so much to sort and package
> clothing, and dispose of unusable donations, that "we're
> figuring to probably go $150,000 in the hole this month," he
> said.
> -----------------------------------
>
> Waiting to see this as part of Z's post promotion
> items...but doubt I will.
>

Well, thats all fine and dandy but the following info is taken right off stormaid

*Clear Channel-Little Rock has sent 69 semi trucks full of food and water for the devastated hurricane region.

*Clear Channel-Duluth has filled two semi trucks with supplies for the devastated Gulf Coast region.

*Clear Channel Radio-Casper has filled two semi trucks with supplies for hurricane victims.

*Clear Channel Radio, KOKI-TV and KTFO-TV have spearheaded the largest relief effort in the city of Tulsa for the victims of Hurricane Katrina. All stations have been promoting a joint effort to collect food for Feed the Children.

*Clear Channel-Tallahassee has arranged for several trucks to drive into Baton Rouge to deliver relief supplies. Items include generators, 5,000 radios, diapers, water and coolers.

*Clear Channel Outdoor-Memphis has collected supplies for victims of Hurricane Katrina. The group is also donating 10 billboards in the area to publicize the phone number for the American Red Cross and will be sending vinyl billboard material to the region to be used for temporary roofing.

*Clear Channel-Albuquerque/Santa Fe has collected over 125,000 pounds of food and water for hurricane survivors in the Houston Astrodome.

*Clear Channel-Milwaukee is hosting a fundraiser at Wisconsin State Fair park on Tuesday, September 6 from 5:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. Listeners are encouraged to make monetary donations and provide food, water and hygiene supplies.

*Clear Channel-Jackson has raised over $9,000 and has sent 500 cases of water to those in the devastated hurricane region.

*Clear Channel Radio-Raleigh raises funds and fills two semi-trucks with relief supplied for the storm-ravaged south.

There is more but I think you get the point. Z is not the only one donating goods. So to imply that they have it all wrong is not alltogether accurate.
If so there are all kinds of Clear Channel stations that got it wrong also.

Also..
If you check their website you will see that they (Z) teamed up w/ KCRG and raised nearly $200K and 175 units of blood.
 
I rarely post on these boards (and am honestly so busy that I rarely remember to even look at them) but this begged a response. Humpty, thanks for the defense. Your support is appreciated. A couple of things I wanted to expand upon:

1. We did indeed team with Feed The Children. They are an organization that is uniquely qualified to help with supply donations. Please take a moment, before judging our efforts to be "a waste," to read about how this organization is fully capable of processing and distributing food/water/supply donations. In fact, they encourage it.

Learn:
http://www.feedthechildren.org/site/PageServer?pagename=usw_corp_who_uses

-or-

http://www.feedthechildren.org/site/PageServer?pagename=org_about_ftc

2. No one else around here was doing anything of substance in response to this disaster. Looking back, all of us here at Z feel a little sheepish for even discussing whether we should mount this effort. In retrospect, people in this area were simply waiting for SOMEONE to do SOMETHING. We began with a goal of filling one semi truck. As detailed elsewhere in this thread, the people of Eastern Iowa ended up doing far, far more than that.

3. As for the Salvation Army and Goodwill being inundated with old reject clothing from people, our efforts were focused on water, food, batteries, cleaning and hygiene supplies. All items of dire need right now.

4. We haven't heard from anyone who has received these supplies as yet. We did have folks who were donating stuff write messages on sections of our roll-a-banner, which we then tucked on the pallets as we shrink-wrapped them. I hope those messages of goodwill made it to some people who we helped, because there were some truly heartfelt sentiments expressed there. I hope we will someday hear a story of how we helped someone in particular. But right now, all of those people have far bigger issues to deal with than contacting a radio station in Iowa. God help them all. If we hear from someone, I'm sure we'll mention it. But I doubt we'll spend a whole lot of time with self-congratulatory post-production. We've done our bit. We feel pretty damn good about it. People around here know who spearheaded the effort. We don't need to crow.

FYI, we also took up a collection here at Z for the Red Cross. Many of us gave money. The Red Cross is a laudable organization, and we were pleased to welcome Peter Teahen from our local chapter onto our airwaves more than once as this story unfolded. And yes, the Red Cross discourages supply donations. That's why we chose to work with Feed The Children.
 
May I also point out that the original question posed in this post (see below) asked about what media outlets were doing. Thus far, the only response discussed has been that of KZIA in Cedar Rapids. Anyone else hear of anything else noteworthy from around the state? Or is it just all Clear Channel corporate claptrap?



> Anyone know of any media outlets doing, or planning any sort
> of hurricane relief effort? The damage down there is
> probably going to reach 20-30 Billion, and that total only
> rises as New Orleans finds itself under deeper waters.
 
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