I should probably update my life insurance policy because I'M DYING TO SAY SOMETHING.
Maybe later, though.
Maybe later, though.
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I cannot believe how popular "House" Music is
- Thread starter russ.haney
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One of the better videos I have watched in a while. Dead "Mau Five" (That's what the general public calls him because they are still clueless about Dance Music) RANTS about the big Festivals (Ultra, etc)
http://youtu.be/dtD8mpWVhOo
But for people to complain about Pitbull, Florida, etc is just insane.
The Jennifer Lopez song (On The Floor) was a bad ass House hit. I can sound off 25-30 songs that are nothing more than Electro House - This is what I have been craving for the past 10 years on this board... and it is finally here. For those who "Hate" the sound then perhaps you should start listening and trying to push another genre.
I think it is amazing how far "Dance Music" has come along. Every time I tune into the local TOP 40 station, I hear Electro House Music.
http://youtu.be/dtD8mpWVhOo
But for people to complain about Pitbull, Florida, etc is just insane.
The Jennifer Lopez song (On The Floor) was a bad ass House hit. I can sound off 25-30 songs that are nothing more than Electro House - This is what I have been craving for the past 10 years on this board... and it is finally here. For those who "Hate" the sound then perhaps you should start listening and trying to push another genre.
I think it is amazing how far "Dance Music" has come along. Every time I tune into the local TOP 40 station, I hear Electro House Music.
Chris Brown - "Yeah 3x" = Pimp Smackers / Sterbinszky & Tranzident - Gates of Open Mind
This is not "Dance" Music?
What other artist could make that beat a mainstream hit? "Bueller?" "Bueller?"
Do you see where I am getting at?
This is not "Dance" Music?
What other artist could make that beat a mainstream hit? "Bueller?" "Bueller?"
Do you see where I am getting at?
It's great that pop has embraced dance, as it really helped with the exposure. However dance can't depend on pop to survive in the long run. It needs to survive on its own merit, otherwise you risk the popularity of dance only being a fad. Almost everyone you mentioned is dance by convenience, because dance sells right now. These artists were pop artists prior to the dance sound being big, and as soon as the sound cools down, they will go back to slower tempo songs should their career survive.
russ.haney said:
You're in the dance section. It's bound to happen.
But yes, even though I no longer act like it, I'm also (still) glad that dance came back. I just don't have much to say anymore because I've expressed all my excitement already and got it out of my system already, and I can only talk about my Dance Music Comeback Theory for so long before it gets old. Although some things still fascinate and surprise me in regard to what dance sounds make it to radio, the whole dance music on chr radio thing is beginning to become normal to me now, although I will admit that seeing urban formats begin to pick up on the sound is still somewhat like a dream to me.
I would say more, but... I'm pretty much done discussing it for now. This whole Dance Music Comeback era; It's a moment I've desperately waited for that has finally come, and now I choose to sit back and enjoy it independently in peace & silence as long as it lasts (hence my lack of posts regarding the subject these days).
Oh, by the way, I'd much rather there be a ton of Pitbull with some Flo Rida and Ludacris action on the dance hits than to have some of the OTHER options available out there... At least the rappers frequently making a guest appearance on these tracks actually make things sound decent. I count my blessings when I think of some of the other people that could've rapped on some tracks instead.
russ.haney said:
My issue isn't that these songs or artists are bad per se. My issue is that the corporate fools have CHOSEN which artists they want to push and promote. Any blind fool can see that the big radio corporations are in bed with the big record labels. If they want their artists to perform slow ballads, then that's what they'll perform. If it's hip-hop, right on. Dance...no problem...we'll just grab a couple of dance producers and have our artists sing over their music...wallla. So while this incarnation of dance is a "hit" now, the actual dance artists (for the most part) who have been busting their butts for years are nowhere to be found on the radio dial...meanwhile, dance has ALWAYS been here. For you to say that you are amazed at how far dance music has come just puzzles me. Dance music hasn't come along because of these artists. The artists are borrowing from dance music. Will dance artists benefit from this? More than likely, but is the general public going to recognize these dance artists on their own merit or simply think that the Flo Rida's and Pitbulls are the "pioneers"?
It's almost like people trying to take credit for rock and roll without recognizing the Beatles or Elvis Presley.
Unless you're a True Fan of Dance, its going to be little known that this Era is not new. I think most of us here on the board know that this all goes back to Germany / Europe, Chicago, Detroit, Miami, or New York with the birth of Disco, Studio 54, Kraftwerk, HiNRG, New Wave, Freestyle, House, Hot Mix 5, Techno and so on. But to all the rookies barely jumping on this bandwagon could care less. They think "Oh it's cool now because its not so gay when they put Usher on the track!" They really believe that DJs like Afrojack, Deadmau5 or Avicci are creating new ideas. Granted I appreciate them, but they are FAR from Pioneers.
Russ, I agree with most of what ya said, except this:
Really? House? I realize J Lo is no stranger to Dance, but its really hard to take her seriously. She has sooo many bad songs, and she is only cashing in on this trend. I really don't think she knows the 1st thing about EDM.
They all use Producer "Red One". He is the brains behind the all these songs by Enrique, Pitbull, Chris Brown, Lady Gaga, Usher, and yes even that J Lo song. The labels know nothing about what is going on with the Underground, but they DO know that they want to get on the Radio with this HOT "New" sound......lol.
russ.haney said:
Really? House? I realize J Lo is no stranger to Dance, but its really hard to take her seriously. She has sooo many bad songs, and she is only cashing in on this trend. I really don't think she knows the 1st thing about EDM.
2Son said:
They all use Producer "Red One". He is the brains behind the all these songs by Enrique, Pitbull, Chris Brown, Lady Gaga, Usher, and yes even that J Lo song. The labels know nothing about what is going on with the Underground, but they DO know that they want to get on the Radio with this HOT "New" sound......lol.
I will definitely agree with you on that one. I grew up with the Detroit sound, and I also greatly appreciate today's sound.DJ_Perry said:
Look, let's call this out.....WE KNOW BETTER.
As such, we all have to take on that role of "mentors" here. All of us, not just me. Granted, those that are "casual" are accepting Rihanna, Pitbull, Flo Rida, Katy Perry remixes, Adele remixes, etc. as dance and have become open to it. What WE have to do is guide them along gently to explore dance music deeper. Let them know that DJ's like Afrojack, Deadmau5, Avicii only followed those that were before them (Larry Levan, Frankie Knuckles, Kraftwerk) and allow them to hear the more core sounds of the music that we all love and embrace.
To bash the commercial side to things will only set us back. Yes, corporate wants to sell music and if "hickory dickory dock" by (insert Top 40 artist here) with a dance beat can sell, they'd release it in a heartbeat. Let that happen though, but for us we must take on a role as a mentor and lean these folks to our side without alienating them from what they are used to hearing. As it is, let this music keep growing on CHR. Let it explode to that point where people will eventually want that edge. That's where we guide and give it to them.
Smile everyone Our time is here
As such, we all have to take on that role of "mentors" here.
All of us, not just me. Granted, those that are "casual" are accepting Rihanna, Pitbull, Flo Rida, Katy Perry remixes, Adele remixes, etc. as dance and have become open to it. What WE have to do is guide them along gently to explore dance music deeper. Let them know that DJ's like Afrojack, Deadmau5, Avicii only followed those that were before them (Larry Levan, Frankie Knuckles, Kraftwerk) and allow them to hear the more core sounds of the music that we all love and embrace.To bash the commercial side to things will only set us back. Yes, corporate wants to sell music and if "hickory dickory dock" by (insert Top 40 artist here) with a dance beat can sell, they'd release it in a heartbeat. Let that happen though, but for us we must take on a role as a mentor and lean these folks to our side without alienating them from what they are used to hearing. As it is, let this music keep growing on CHR. Let it explode to that point where people will eventually want that edge. That's where we guide and give it to them
.Smile everyone
Our time is here Techno Kelvin said:
Excellent to see (and hear) that Etta James is not lost in the shuffle. She hangs in there and has been covered by many, mostly with "At Last".
Disco...now there was some dancin' going on in the disco generation. The beautiful, flowing silks and chiffons on young ladies and those very large lapels on the men's suits. I guess there were some other kinds of clothes too for some of the people who were just kind of there looking busy, but ladies on the dance floor were beautiful from head to toe, and the men were handsome and dapper from head to toe. The stories you hear from people who were there vary depending upon the level of people they were then.
RIP Etta James.
Just got done briefly listening to WWVA-FM, a rhythmic chr with a pop lean. Every song had back to back house beats! Then out of curiosity, I checked TuneIn dot com to see what they played for the last half hour. From 10:55 - 11:30pm east coast time, about 85-90% of all the songs were straight up house styled productions! Gee.. you might as well just consider some of these stations to be dance stations because the only difference between an established dance station and some chr's are the artists singing over the instrumentals or some silly hip hop or pop/rock song being randomly thrown in! Other than that, it's pretty much mostly back to back house beats.
If only many of the artists they played weren't popular, no one would be able to tell that some of these chr's weren't dance stations if they tuned in briefly during a 30 minute nonstop music block.
If only many of the artists they played weren't popular, no one would be able to tell that some of these chr's weren't dance stations if they tuned in briefly during a 30 minute nonstop music block.
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