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I Dare KIOL !!!

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Come on KIOL....... Play this: (and NOT at 3:30am Monday)

Artist -- Song Title

dave mason -- feeling alright
caned heat -- bulfrog blues
blues project -- i can't keep from cry'n
janis joplin -- half moon
hot tuna -- uncle sam blues
the yardbirds -- i wish you would
electric flag -- drink'n wine
johnny winter -- bony moronie
cactus parchman -- farm
quicksliver -- mojo
the door -- soul kitchen
fleetwood mac -- like it this way
little feat -- time loves a hero
commander cody -- oh momma momma
taj mahall -- driving duck blues
jefferson airplane -- the other side of this life
james gang -- stop
lynyrd skynyrd -- t for texas
james gang -- stop
clod blood -- i just want to make love to you
jimi hendrix -- stepping stone

howard werth -- dear joan
audience -- nancy
david bromberg -- danger man II
aerosmith -- walkin' the dog
bloodrock -- gimme your head
christopher -- queen mary
mountian -- southbound train
cactus -- let me swim
todd rungren -- i'm in the clique
jefferson airplane -- fat angel
jimi hendrix -- izabella
rare earth -- hey big brother
deep purple -- hey joe
captain beyond -- dancing madly backwards
armageddon -- basking in the white of the midnight sun
wishbone ash -- phoenix
led zeppelin -- achilles last stand
savoy brown -- all i can do



Credit goes to: Steve of "Uncastrated Classic Rock"
http://www.kpft.org/studio/playlistbuild.php?week=1&shownumber=2
 
> Come on KIOL....... Play this: (and NOT at 3:30am Monday)
>

And what do you expect the listeners to say?
 
> > Come on KIOL....... Play this: (and NOT at 3:30am Monday)
> >
>
> And what do you expect the listeners to say?
>

They would probably say a number of things:

* "The 'classic rock' playlist sure sounds FRESH"

* "I didn't realize that Hendrix put out more than 3 songs?"

* "I didn't realize that Lynard Skynard put out more than 2 songs?"

* "Did you hear KIOL today? They were playing some killer music today!"


You get the point... FRESH CUTS !!!
 
They have such a small audience as it is, why would they want to play this? Most people would go "Hey, I don't know that." and change the station. Way to obscure for the average listener. Easy to do when tax dollars and donations pay the bills for your station.

> Come on KIOL....... Play this: (and NOT at 3:30am Monday)
>
> Artist -- Song Title
>
> dave mason -- feeling alright
> caned heat -- bulfrog blues
> blues project -- i can't keep from cry'n
> janis joplin -- half moon
> hot tuna -- uncle sam blues
> the yardbirds -- i wish you would
> electric flag -- drink'n wine
> johnny winter -- bony moronie
> cactus parchman -- farm
> quicksliver -- mojo
> the door -- soul kitchen
> fleetwood mac -- like it this way
> little feat -- time loves a hero
> commander cody -- oh momma momma
> taj mahall -- driving duck blues
> jefferson airplane -- the other side of this life
> james gang -- stop
> lynyrd skynyrd -- t for texas
> james gang -- stop
> clod blood -- i just want to make love to you
> jimi hendrix -- stepping stone
>
> howard werth -- dear joan
> audience -- nancy
> david bromberg -- danger man II
> aerosmith -- walkin' the dog
> bloodrock -- gimme your head
> christopher -- queen mary
> mountian -- southbound train
> cactus -- let me swim
> todd rungren -- i'm in the clique
> jefferson airplane -- fat angel
> jimi hendrix -- izabella
> rare earth -- hey big brother
> deep purple -- hey joe
> captain beyond -- dancing madly backwards
> armageddon -- basking in the white of the midnight sun
> wishbone ash -- phoenix
> led zeppelin -- achilles last stand
> savoy brown -- all i can do
>
>
>
> Credit goes to: Steve of "Uncastrated Classic Rock"
http> ://www.kpft.org/studio/playlistbuild.php?week=1&shownumber=2
>
 
> They have such a small audience as it is, why would they
> want to play this? Most people would go "Hey, I don't know
> that." and change the station. Way to obscure for the
> average listener. Easy to do when tax dollars and donations
> pay the bills for your station.
>

Well, obviously you have no idea what they want as you are sitting near the bottom of the ratings.

That list was from bands that were the best of the best in the 70S.


> Most people would go "Hey, I don't know
> that." and change the station.

That is where you are mistaken and sadly it is leading to the demise of classic rock.

You are trying to tell me that if "Jimi Hendrix's "Izabella" is played instead of "Foxy Lady" or the Doors' "Soul Kitchen" is played instead of "Light My Fire" that the listeners will leave in droves?

When's the last tine you played CSN&Y's "49 Byes-byes" or "Dark Star?" People know those songs....

Good lord son, even the Kids over at Alvin Community College are out programming you "pros."


Snooze alarm back on......
 
It sounds like a playlist from "Deep Tracks" XM Channel 40. It is a different playlist, but it does not have widespread appeal. You could mix some of these songs in with what they're playing and it certainly would turn heads, but unless it is like a College radio station or another non-profit type of station, I doubt you'd ever hear all those songs together, without the "Enter Sandman", "You Shook Me All Night Long", "Comfortably Numb"... way over played classics mixed in with your list.

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The Bitterness of Poor Quality Lingers Long After The Sweetness of Low Price Is Long Forgotten.</P>
 
If I worked for them, I would be typing on a wireless laptop from the ledge of a tall building. Just pointing out the facts.

> > They have such a small audience as it is, why would they
> > want to play this? Most people would go "Hey, I don't know
>
> > that." and change the station. Way to obscure for the
> > average listener. Easy to do when tax dollars and
> donations
> > pay the bills for your station.
> >
>
> Well, obviously you have no idea what they want as you are
> sitting near the bottom of the ratings.
>
> That list was from bands that were the best of the best in
> the 70S.
>
>
> > Most people would go "Hey, I don't know
> > that." and change the station.
>
> That is where you are mistaken and sadly it is leading to
> the demise of classic rock.
>
> You are trying to tell me that if "Jimi Hendrix's "Izabella"
> is played instead of "Foxy Lady" or the Doors' "Soul
> Kitchen" is played instead of "Light My Fire" that the
> listeners will leave in droves?
>
> When's the last tine you played CSN&Y's "49 Byes-byes" or
> "Dark Star?" People know those songs....
>
> Good lord son, even the Kids over at Alvin Community
> College are out programming you "pros."
>
>
> Snooze alarm back on......
>
 
Sorry, folks. I personally feel they should not only move in a different direction but they should RUN!

I thought the whole "Houston's Classic" idea was one of the lessons learned by Clear Channel.
 
> Sorry, folks. I personally feel they should not only move in
> a different direction but they should RUN!
>

I agree. I was just pointing out that if they are going to play bands from the 70s then play some of those bands' other songs. Just doing that would make the music sound fresh and people would still recognize the bands.

>
> I thought the whole "Houston's Classic" idea was one of the
> lessons learned by Clear Channel.
>

I agree, again.

Definition of insane: "Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."
 
> It sounds like a playlist from "Deep Tracks" XM Channel 40.
> It is a different playlist, but it does not have widespread
> appeal. You could mix some of these songs in with what
> they're playing and it certainly would turn heads, but
> unless it is like a College radio station or another
> non-profit type of station, I doubt you'd ever hear all
> those songs together, without the "Enter Sandman", "You
> Shook Me All Night Long", "Comfortably Numb"... way over
> played classics mixed in with your list.
>
I sure wish that KIOL would add two or three of the songs that radiodial listed per hour along with similiar music. KIOL has made me uncomfortably numb from the overplaying of the songs snoman listed, along with the other 100 or less playlist that KIOL seems to have now.

I have gotten to hate Pink Floyd, I don't know if an hour goes by that the same two Pink Floyd songs are played. Maybe it is just me, but it seems like KIOL plays about 50 songs now.

KACC may be a college station and has greater leeway in what they play, but if KACC had a good citywide signal, I bet their ratings would be in the three range or better. Between KIOL running at about 150% modulation which wears thin in a short time and the same predictible songs, I am rapidly losing interest in the station. I listen to more for the personalities that are on during the day than the music.

It is too bad in many ways because the air personalities at KIOL really work hard to make the station a great station, but the music is killing the station and the mediocre signal when driving makes listening to KIOL less than pleasant.

Unfortunately I only caught bits and pieces of Wendy Millers "Hard" show last night {Sunday}, but what I heard I liked. It would be a plus for KIOL to add some of those songs in place of what is played now over and over.

But this is Houston radio and my expectations have gone downhill more as each month passes for all the stations. How Houston went from one of the best radio markets to one of the worse is hardly acceptable and not at all what anyone would expect.

Toronto radio, even with the dreadfully awful 35% Canadian Content {CanCon} required of every music station is far better than what Houston is offering the citizens of The Gulf Coast.

Mike O
 
Mike_O,

Once again, beautifully put.... I can add nothing else other than for KIOL to read your post and move on it.
 
Lemme tell ya what. I'd love to hear KIOL run a playlist like I hear on KROQ in LA when I'm there. Whenever I get in the rental, it goes on the radio and never comes off.
From their most played list:

Gorillaz ---Feel Good Inc
Foo Fighters --- Best of You
The Bravery ---Honest Mistake
The Killers ---All These Things That I've Done
Staind ---Right Here
Nine Inch Nails ---The Hand That Feeds
Fall Out Boy ---Sugar, We're Going Down
Green Day ---Holiday
Audioslave ---Doesn't Remind Me
Coldplay ---Speed of Sound
The Offspring ---Can't Repeat
Muse ---Stockholm Syndrome
Weezer ---Beverly Hills
Green Day ---Wake Me Up When September Ends
Avenged Sevenfold ---Bat Country
Papa Roach ---Scars
System of a Down ---B.Y.O.B.
My Chemical Romance ---Helena
Hot Hot Heat ---Middle of Nowhere
Jack Johnson ---Badfish/Boss DJ

<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by gitchesum on 08/02/05 12:52 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: I Dare KIOL/The biggest Cumulus KIOL error

>> > I thought the whole "Houston's Classic" idea was one of
> the
> > lessons learned by Clear Channel.
> >
>
> Definition of insane: "Doing the same thing over and over
> and expecting different results."


The biggest error that Cumulus has made (to date) with KIOL is misreading the fallout over the KLOL format change. People lamented the loss of the KLOL of old (70's through the early 90's) not the old KLOL (1993-2004). What Cumulus has done so far is to provide Houston with the old KLOL, but with a spotty signal.

When people speak fondly of "101 KLOL" they focus on the days when the playlist was very wide (70's and 80's); they broke new bands and had daring and innovative promotions/contests/billboards and top flight air personalities. The KIOL air personalities are very good these days, but the music has been a major disappointment. Unfortunately KIOL sounds like the "stuck in neutral days that ultimatley destroyed KLOL".

It's time for KIOL to drop the tired acts of the 70's and 80's that simply do not fit on a Rock station in 2005 (Kansas, Boston, The Doors, Eagles, etc) either have to be phased out or played on a Sunday morning specialty show that highlights Houston's Rock Radio History.

Artists like Disturbed, Trapt, Seether, Crossfade, Dark New Day, Slipknot, and Chevelle (as examples) need to be added into the playlist and mixed with not only the 90's staples (Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam, STP, etc), but some of the "legends" of earlier decades that still work in the format (Led Zeppelin, Metallica, AC/DC, Van Halen). KIOL needs to both expand and contract (which is a difficult task), but KIOL appears to have used up a good portion of the goodwill that started with "For Those About to Rock We Salute You" late last January.

If KIOL truly wants to duplicate the spirit and the feeling of the "KLOL of old" look back at what made KLOL a legendary Radio Station and look at a WRIF in Detroit as a guide. They have remained viable for 35 years and that's the direction KIOL needs to go. If KLOL had followed that model 10 years ago; we'd probably be talking about "Mega 94.5" "Mega" somewhere else on the dial.

dlf
 
Is "pure rock" the answer?

At first, I was bitter about the loss of alternative in NYC, but I actually think WXRK's playlist changes could work for KIOL.
It's not an active rock station, it's not classic or alternative.
It's a "pure rock" format that blends the harder-edged new rock, classic and 90's rock.
Their recent playlist overhaul has improved the daypart numbers dramatically and they can actually say that people listen for reasons other than Howard. Whether this format has legs is anybody's guess. It was tried on classic rocker 104.3 there about 10 years ago and it flopped. Maybe in a few books, the sampling will die or maybe this will catch on.

What KIOL needs to expand on is the idea of a "fresh" playlist.

What has made KTBZ a lot better in the last few months is the addition of about 100 songs. More RHCP, old U2, Cranberries, Pumpkins, etc.
Once per set, when you play a popular band, reach into your library.
"Lanslide" by Smashing Pumpkins--not as well known as "Bullet With Butterfly Wings," but it's still very popular.
Mix in rare cuts occassionaly and play newer bands in the later parts of the day. Have a formula where fresher cuts appear, but not too much to dilute the popular golds that people want to hear over and over again.
KIOL has to play "Smells Like Teen Spirit" just like KTBZ. Great and vastly popular song. Just don't only play songs like that.
This approach would allow for a "wider" playlist, but the same familiarity factor with the core listeners.

I gaurantee you even with their atrocious signal, "pure rock" would sell a hell of a lot better than what they're doing now with the AOR KLOL revisited.

I was pleasantly suprised with the "Hard Show."
I was expecting to hear just Disturbed, Godsmack, Nirvana, Limp Bizkit--the popular cuts, but I was wrong--
Candiria, Dying Fetus, album tracks from Rage and Tool, COC.
And most importantly, Wendy didn't sound like a drunken cheerleader.
 
Re: Is "pure rock" the answer?

Sure wish some folks in Houston and Atlanta could act on the advice everyone has been giving.
We know the metrics would be difficult but they would see the payback.


> I gaurantee you even with their atrocious signal, "pure
> rock" would sell a hell of a lot better than what they're
> doing now with the AOR KLOL revisited.
>
> I was pleasantly suprised with the "Hard Show."
> I was expecting to hear just Disturbed, Godsmack, Nirvana,
> Limp Bizkit--the popular cuts, but I was wrong--
> Candiria, Dying Fetus, album tracks from Rage and Tool, COC.
>>
 
I think Houston's Classic was during the Chancellor Media days.
maybe AM/FM...
> Sorry, folks. I personally feel they should not only move in
> a different direction but they should RUN!
>
> I thought the whole "Houston's Classic" idea was one of the
> lessons learned by Clear Channel.
>
 
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