I don't get it.

[CJBOB]

I can't understand what the FISH is. I can listen to Q100 and listen to a song. I can turn the dial and hear the same song on the FISH performed by a "Christian Artist". Does the song have a diffrent meaning now that its on the FISH? Is the song blessed now that it is being performed by a "Christian Artist"? Or does the FISH need to come out of the closet?

 

[ClarkKent]

Yeah, I don't see how The Fray's "How To Save A Life" is a Christian song, at all, and I've heard it on the FISH more than once. Some others are a stretch, too...and it sort of ticked me off to hear "When I Get Where I'm Going" covered by some other pair. C'mon, if Martina's "Anyway" and Carrie Underwood's "Jesus Take The Wheel" are fine pretty much as-is, let Brad Paisley sing. Same goes for Rascal Flatts and "Bless The Broken Road."

I remember being really excited when the FISH launched a few years ago, and I'm a little sad to admit I'm not so excited by what they're doing lately. :-\

 

[jonathanradio]

its not the fish's faught . go look at www.radioandrecords.com and look at the christian charts for ac . its on the christian ac charts and is being played on every station . do the research. the fray lead worship for there chuch in denver colorado. they are ALL christians so therefore they can be played on Christian radio. It doesnt matter if the band is a Christian band to be played on radio. As long as you are a Christian and you portray that in your walk and the way you talk to people then you should be played on Christian radio. we have segregated Christian Radio SO much . finally we are making a difference. If someone hears this song on The fish or J933 they are going to listen to more of the station and maybe hear something that can help there faith. so this is awesome!!!

 

[ClarkKent]

its not the fish's faught . go look at www.radioandrecords.com and look at the christian charts for ac . its on the christian ac charts and is being played on every station . do the research. the fray lead worship for there chuch in denver colorado. they are ALL christians so therefore they can be played on Christian radio. It doesnt matter if the band is a Christian band to be played on radio. As long as you are a Christian and you portray that in your walk and the way you talk to people then you should be played on Christian radio. we have segregated Christian Radio SO much . finally we are making a difference. If someone hears this song on The fish or J933 they are going to listen to more of the station and maybe hear something that can help there faith. so this is awesome!!!

I'm sorry, but I couldn't disagree more.

I'm a Christian myself, but I wouldn't say that what I do on the air qualifies as "Christian radio." The faith of the musicians isn't the issue here...it's the message of the song. I know the lyrics for "How To Save a Life" by rote (the song is EVERYWHERE!) and I can't find anything in them that registers as a Christian message, at least not in my mind. It's a song about a break-up, basically. Good song, but it doesn't fit alongside Rebecca St. James, Avalon, Third Day and the like. It's radio 101, buddy. The point of a format is that you expect a particular type of music, and it's classified by sound, instrumentation, and content. And in the case of Christian radio, the message.

And SO WHAT if a particular song is on a particular chart? I thought the point of a music director was to help shape the sound of the station by controlling the playlist and trying to program for THEIR audience. If he/she is just copying a particular chart and saying "here's the playlist" then they're really not doing their job, are they? (And yes, I do know that it's a little different in corporate radio...it's often a rubber-stamp thing. No need to tell me about it.)

By the way, Jonathan, what need was there in posting the exact same message on a new thread? You pretty much made your point here.

 

[CONSultant]

Re: I don't get it.(what's not to get?)

I don't see any big controversy, here. Artists like The Fray, Switchfoot, POD, Mat Kearney may write songs that are a little more subtle in message sometimes but it doesn't mean the song doesn't belong on "Christian Radio." The Fray's "How to Save a Life" has touched thousands of peoples lives. Songwriter and singer Isaac Slade originally wrote it about a troubled teen he met as a camp counselor.

I'm glad the Fish is playing it.

 

[ClarkKent]

No "controversy" here.

So, what's the criteria for what belongs and doesn't belong? I think the greater thing to happen is for songs like "I Can Only Imagine" to be played on standard AC stations. That's a breakthrough.

Now that you mention it, I do see how "How To Save A Life" is from a counselor's point of view...but it still doesn't register as a "Christian" song to me. Oh well... can't please 'em all.

 

[trusty]

I think the greater thing to happen is for songs like "I Can Only Imagine" to be played on standard AC stations. That's a breakthrough.

You mean the way B98.5 has been playing it?

 

[ItsARadioThing]

its not the fish's faught . go look at www.radioandrecords.com and look at the christian charts for ac . its on the christian ac charts and is being played on every station . do the research. the fray lead worship for there chuch in denver colorado. they are ALL christians so therefore they can be played on Christian radio. It doesnt matter if the band is a Christian band to be played on radio. As long as you are a Christian and you portray that in your walk and the way you talk to people then you should be played on Christian radio. we have segregated Christian Radio SO much . finally we are making a difference. If someone hears this song on The fish or J933 they are going to listen to more of the station and maybe hear something that can help there faith. so this is awesome!!!

I'm sorry, but I couldn't disagree more.

I'm a Christian myself, but I wouldn't say that what I do on the air qualifies as "Christian radio." The faith of the musicians isn't the issue here...it's the message of the song. I know the lyrics for "How To Save a Life" by rote (the song is EVERYWHERE!) and I can't find anything in them that registers as a Christian message, at least not in my mind. It's a song about a break-up, basically. Good song, but it doesn't fit alongside Rebecca St. James, Avalon, Third Day and the like. It's radio 101, buddy. The point of a format is that you expect a particular type of music, and it's classified by sound, instrumentation, and content. And in the case of Christian radio, the message.

And SO WHAT if a particular song is on a particular chart? I thought the point of a music director was to help shape the sound of the station by controlling the playlist and trying to program for THEIR audience. If he/she is just copying a particular chart and saying "here's the playlist" then they're really not doing their job, are they? (And yes, I do know that it's a little different in corporate radio...it's often a rubber-stamp thing. No need to tell me about it.)

By the way, Jonathan, what need was there in posting the exact same message on a new thread? You pretty much made your point here.

"How to save a Life" is not about a break up. Isaac, the lead singer, use to be a counselor to youth who were struggling with problems. A teen he worked closely with, trying to present to him the Bible and the meaning of Christ, died of a cocaine overdose...and this is when Isaac wrote "How to Save a Life". He said "I would have stayed up with you all night, had I known how to save a life". No, this song is not about a breakup but about a man trying to do some good in this world.

 

[jonathanradio]

thanks u all yes! yeah im so glad other people agree with me about this. yah issac did write it for a guy that was struggling and it is a song that has helped me out as well. im glad radio everywhere plays this

 

[ClarkKent]

its not the fish's faught . go look at www.radioandrecords.com and look at the christian charts for ac . its on the christian ac charts and is being played on every station . do the research. the fray lead worship for there chuch in denver colorado. they are ALL christians so therefore they can be played on Christian radio. It doesnt matter if the band is a Christian band to be played on radio. As long as you are a Christian and you portray that in your walk and the way you talk to people then you should be played on Christian radio. we have segregated Christian Radio SO much . finally we are making a difference. If someone hears this song on The fish or J933 they are going to listen to more of the station and maybe hear something that can help there faith. so this is awesome!!!

I'm sorry, but I couldn't disagree more.

I'm a Christian myself, but I wouldn't say that what I do on the air qualifies as "Christian radio." The faith of the musicians isn't the issue here...it's the message of the song. I know the lyrics for "How To Save a Life" by rote (the song is EVERYWHERE!) and I can't find anything in them that registers as a Christian message, at least not in my mind. It's a song about a break-up, basically. Good song, but it doesn't fit alongside Rebecca St. James, Avalon, Third Day and the like. It's radio 101, buddy. The point of a format is that you expect a particular type of music, and it's classified by sound, instrumentation, and content. And in the case of Christian radio, the message.

And SO WHAT if a particular song is on a particular chart? I thought the point of a music director was to help shape the sound of the station by controlling the playlist and trying to program for THEIR audience. If he/she is just copying a particular chart and saying "here's the playlist" then they're really not doing their job, are they? (And yes, I do know that it's a little different in corporate radio...it's often a rubber-stamp thing. No need to tell me about it.)

By the way, Jonathan, what need was there in posting the exact same message on a new thread? You pretty much made your point here.

"How to save a Life" is not about a break up. Isaac, the lead singer, use to be a counselor to youth who were struggling with problems. A teen he worked closely with, trying to present to him the Bible and the meaning of Christ, died of a cocaine overdose...and this is when Isaac wrote "How to Save a Life". He said "I would have stayed up with you all night, had I known how to save a life". No, this song is not about a breakup but about a man trying to do some good in this world.

Dude, read a little further down before you respond next time. We covered this.

 

[FloydB]

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"How to save a Life" is not about a break up. Isaac, the lead singer, use to be a counselor to youth who were struggling with problems. A teen he worked closely with, trying to present to him the Bible and the meaning of Christ, died of a cocaine overdose...and this is when Isaac wrote "How to Save a Life". He said "I would have stayed up with you all night, had I known how to save a life". No, this song is not about a breakup but about a man trying to do some good in this world.

[/quote]

Okay, point taken. I was beginning to wonder about this song myself. Here's another one: U2's "Vertigo". How is that "Christian"? Is it just because there's a line that says "Jesus 'round her neck"? That's about the only thing I can relate it to being anywhere near religious, "wholesome" or "Christian".

 

[tcsnrayp]

Do they play Elton John's Tiny Dancer? There is a blatant Jesus mention in that lyric.

 

[monkeymanmoi]

Here's another one: U2's "Vertigo". How is that "Christian"? Is it just because there's a line that says "Jesus 'round her neck"? That's about the only thing I can relate it to being anywhere near religious, "wholesome" or "Christian".
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The Fish has played U2 before? That would surprise me. I'd like to hear them play "Wake Up Dead Man" by U2. I'd love to see the emails after that one.

 

[mock3]

Okay, point taken. I was beginning to wonder about this song myself. Here's another one: U2's "Vertigo". How is that "Christian"? Is it just because there's a line that says "Jesus 'round her neck"? That's about the only thing I can relate it to being anywhere near religious, "wholesome" or "Christian".

the members of u2 are christians and many of their songs have scriptural influences and positive messages.

vertigo mentions prayer and humility. it also talks about temptation. the "uno, dos, tres, quatorce" is referring to the book of james 1, 2, 3, and 14, which speaks about temptation.

in matthew 4:9, satan says "all this i will give you, if you will bow down and worship me." the song lyrics read "all of this can be yours, just gimme want a want and no one gets hurt."

and the video takes place in a desert similar to matthew 4:9.

also note that the fish is not really christian radio as much as it is family friendly/positive radio.

 

[SalesWeasel]

also note that the fish is not really christian radio as much as it is family friendly/positive radio.

As opposed to what? Which kind of radio isn't friendly or positive? Why can't they just say "Christian Radio" instead of using the duplicitous "safe for the whole family" slogan?

 

[trusty]

My twisted sense of humor says, "Let's hear Christian songs by the Dixie Chicks!" ;D



Hey... might work.