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I said it was only a matter of time

optimum said:
Mixmaster Tony Rocca said:
You need to change the name from Pulse 87 to FAIL 87...

I said this before they were on the air, Tony Santiago knows this and it's failure are many.

But when the ship is sinking the captain is the one you blame, and rightfully so...

..JS perhaps ????...another thing is that I said this many many times as well from the
beginning and that when you prepare for a road trip you have a full tank of gas, Pulse started on "1/4 tank"..with
that as stated it is only a matter of time.

As far as the music selection...um please ??? total abortion, and that is being nice

The station has no soul and especially no budget... on top of all the "other problems"
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So JS may have some fault but if he can't buy the tools to make a house a shed will have to do. But no matter how much you try to make it a home, it will never be a house.
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If you can't buy the tools to make the house, well you live in the street and get wet when it rains.

Pulse I am going to call "False 87" from now on, because they promise but can't deliver.

They cannot sustain their cash burn rate, why do you think the upper talent has left... M O N E Y...it isn't there folks. Once you see that the course is clear on what is going to happen.

It was a financial gamble that is failing..just that simple.
 
Mixmaster Tony Rocca said:
neo11 said:
Disco music blossomed during the mid-late 70's, at a dire economic time for the country (stagflation, OPEC oil crisis, etc.). So I really don't agree with your theory.
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Completely different time periods...the 70's NYC clubs was a safe haven for doing dope..that is one of the MAIN reasons they flourished and the music was, especially here in NYC, catered to the NYC sound so to speak. Remember EVERYTHING dance originated mainly from NYC then spread outward.

If there was such a crackdown on dope like today back then, well...disco might have taken another path perhaps.
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I don't think the people that went to the clubs or did dope were the only people listening to disco in the 70s. I mean, 92 KTU overtook a legendary station like WABC for first place in the rankings. I think it's pretty clear that disco music *did* succeed in bad economic times...dope or not.
 
Okay...this thread is taking so many turns here that my head is spinning! ??? Let me "stabilize" this thread here.

Yes, everyone in here knows I want Pulse 87 to do well...if not for New York, than for the "big picture" to get radio corporations to consider the dance music/rhythmic format in their markets. I had stated this back in February but was also made aware of Mega Media's financial situation down the road. Which is why there was no real promotion of the station. It was word of mouth and club flyers that made Pulse known...and still to this day, people don't realize that there is a current based dance station on the air in New York.

So whenever something big had happened (such as Star and Jewelz leaving at the same time) I did panic; in the back of my mind thinking about the financial situation as the stock was dropping. My hope with the PPM numbers, as little as they were for those seeing just the "black and white", that more advertisers would do billings on the station. And to a small extent, it had happened. But with the economy the way it is now, along with other issues happening (Sirius XM) dance music has taken a tough break. No one has money to do anything like before. And NO radio station will take a chance now! Which is why as some in here see Pulse as the ship sinking, I still want them to last as long as they possibly can.

I'm not going to get into any sort of on-air personality critique. However you may feel about them (positive or negative) they are the "voice" of Pulse 87. As the station had started, I was actually PUSHING for Jewelz to get on the air; feeling that for such a dance station to happen again they need to reflect on youth and young and not bring back voices from the old 'KTU or Hot 103/97. When Andre was let go from Party 105, I was pushing for him to get on Pulse. I never really knew Showboat (only that he wouldn't sign my petition at Beatstock '07...me not realizing at the time he worked for 'KTU! LOL). Abel Sanchez, Laura Stylez, Ruby Tuesday and Vinnie T were all new to me. Regarding the Star & Buc Wild show, I had my doubts at first since their show was strongly associated with hip-hop & R&B in the past.....but it did work out somehow! I miss those Plumm parties! :.....(

Musically? The only time I had "questioned" the station was what I felt was an "overkill" of classic freestyle, feeling that 'KTU was handling that market and that Pulse 87 should mainly concentrate as a current station (perhaps going as "old" with recurrents as 5 years old). Outside of that, love him or hate him, Joel Salkowitz is a known name in the industry. Could there be room for improvement? Certainly, and that can be said for ANYTHING. Could certain tracks heard elsewhere, get added? Sure. But for what it is worth, compared to everything else out there, Pulse is doing what they can. Until they are "out of the game", they are still "in the game".

So...back to the gist of the thread. YES, there was only one personality on the air that weekend. Heck, I would have VOLUNTEERED my time if they needed "a voice" although my radio experience is "college" (and a hellish one at that...though as a "blessing in disguise", am glad that I DIDN'T get in the industry, seeing what is happening now). But, the station is still on the air and I'll support it. And when the day happens that Pulse is no longer on the air.....I'll do what I have to. But this time around maybe NOT as hard since we are seeing radio commit a slow "suicide" as an industry with the economy issues certainly making that "death" happen faster.

Can one say "Coalition Radio?" ;)
 
when the powers that be dared to pass on the fabulous 'Dance Floor' by Jimi LaLumia, a powerful Italian hex was placed on this 'industry'; glad to see there's still power in the garlic stalks; happy thanksgiving, everyone....
xoxox
jimi
 
looks like yet ANOTHER NEW phone number for pulse 718-859-8787 correct me if im wrong


that usually happens when you're a rent-hopper
 
Maybe they changed the phone number so that it intentionally ended in "8787" to be easier to remember, and something went wrong with the change, hence the temporary phone numbers.
 
That's what I thought as well. For all this talk about "rent-hopping," the station's headquarters actually haven't gone anywhere. And if they couldn't pay the phone bill, I don't see why they would be getting *new* phone numbers. I think some people are just eager to see the station go down and are jumping at every little thing that seems to indicate "failure."
 
Am not a really a fan of dance music but i respect it tho. and like Pulse 87 because its for the people not for the big heads in the front office i do hope one day they move up the dial i know a lot of my friends who do like dance n enjoy Pulse 87 n im a black male who is into hip-hop but i resapect dance,and pulse is way better then KTU the dont knwo if their top 40 or dance
 
neo11 said:
That's what I thought as well. For all this talk about "rent-hopping," the station's headquarters actually haven't gone anywhere. And if they couldn't pay the phone bill, I don't see why they would be getting *new* phone numbers. I think some people are just eager to see the station go down and are jumping at every little thing that seems to indicate "failure."
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When I hear things on a negative, for me it's more of a "panic mode" because of what I'm trying to do now....looking at the big picture outside of New York City.

Yes, Pulse has a lousy signal. Yes, there are financial matters going on. But on a positive, I HAVE heard more ads being played. For some that may stink because you hear less music, but on the other end there are businesses that ARE billing on that station. So, perhaps it is a limo company instead of JC Penney, check cashing instead of Coke, clubs galore because YES, it is a rhythmic/dance station and clubs would be foolish NOT to advertise their establishments on such a station that would specifically target THEIR business.

Sure, there are other genres of dance that Pulse could cover as well instead of what people are "stereotyping" in here. That's the one issue with dance....so many genres and so much division from within. Personally, I'd like to hear some trance and deep house on that station (at the very LEAST on a specialty show) and I doubt it would affect the target audience. If anything I would think the audience would be open to it. Freestyle? My arguments have always been about the classic stuff that has been overplayed to death for over 20 years already. Bring out new. I know of a couple of artists known within that genre that have gone back to the studio and are producing something.

If Pulse is going to fail anytime soon.....it is based on finances, not programming. And if Pulse isn't one's "cup o' tea", then you have satellite as well as another station 15.9 Mhz up the dial that may not be as current intensive (certainly NOT favoring the edgier stuff) but does play something rhythmic.

I can respect everyone's opinions here, positive and negative. Just keep out of the "stereotyping"...that's just not cool.
 
neo11 said:
That's what I thought as well. For all this talk about "rent-hopping," the station's headquarters actually haven't gone anywhere. And if they couldn't pay the phone bill, I don't see why they would be getting *new* phone numbers. I think some people are just eager to see the station go down and are jumping at every little thing that seems to indicate "failure."
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I agree with you. Perhaps we should rename this thread, "those who want Pulse to fail".

There is so much negative comment about Pulse. Can we be happy we have them? Is there room for improvement? Sure! As with ANY other radio station. I doubt any station regardless of format, fills the desires of every single member of the listening audience!!
I for one am glad we have Pulse. I like the station for what it is...NOT for what I wish it were.

Perhaps if all else fails and if there is enough of a "dance" movement WNYZ can go in the non profit, public radio direction and hold pledge drives ala WBGO and keep dance on the air that way??? Tony?

Take a look at some other niche formats around the country and how they stay afloat. It is not impossible. WBAI anyone?
 
neo11 said:
I'm not disagreeing, but who, specifically, do you have in mind when you talk about mediocre jocks at Pulse?
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I don't think it would be fair to point individuals out. It isn't hard to listen to all of their jocks (its such a small staff), listen from friday morning through sunday night and you'll see for yourself which are the jocks whom for some unfathomable reason have landed at pulse. Some have little to no previous experience which again I'm sure it's due to the lack of money. On the other hand you will hear some who deserve to be on and perhaps more than some of the ones that are on frequently. The logic behind that one I have yet to figure out ???
 
Jeffrey said:
neo11 said:
That's what I thought as well. For all this talk about "rent-hopping," the station's headquarters actually haven't gone anywhere. And if they couldn't pay the phone bill, I don't see why they would be getting *new* phone numbers. I think some people are just eager to see the station go down and are jumping at every little thing that seems to indicate "failure."
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I agree with you. Perhaps we should rename this thread, "those who want Pulse to fail".

There is so much negative comment about Pulse. Can we be happy we have them? Is there room for improvement? Sure! As with ANY other radio station. I doubt any station regardless of format, fills the desires of every single member of the listening audience!!
I for one am glad we have Pulse. I like the station for what it is...NOT for what I wish it were.

Perhaps if all else fails and if there is enough of a "dance" movement WNYZ can go in the non profit, public radio direction and hold pledge drives ala WBGO and keep dance on the air that way??? Tony?

Take a look at some other niche formats around the country and how they stay afloat. It is not impossible. WBAI anyone?
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If there is anything that I have learned recently out of all of this.....you can't please everyone. And that's okay, because not everyone is into dance music. And for those into dance music, Pulse 87 might not necessarily target their specific interests. For me personally, 'KTU wasn't my cup of tea and I had complained about it (during their 80% classic/20% current run) for years. Yet there were people that liked it and kept trying to convince me that "it's better than nothing".

I also really think the majority of the negative postings don't want to see the station outright "fail", but know that there are so many issues that have gone on (from within) whereas people feel a failure may come sooner than later. While I do enjoy listening to Pulse I also have to take everything else into consideration because there is a dance music community that I am obligated to look out for, for our interests and when the day comes that Pulse has its last day (it will happen....just like it did with 92/'KTU, Hot 97 (as dance) and 103.5/'KTU (as 80/20) as well as stations like WNEW, CD 101.9, etc.) then we'll just have to "go back to the drawing board", learn from what happened and come up with a new plan.....which most likely will NOT involve terrestrial radio this time around.

I can't see us having a station like a 'BGO or 'BAI where they depend on money from the public so I won't campaign in that direciton. What I THINK should happen in the future (as much as I am apprehensive on this based on my own experiences trying to do my own specialty show in college and was denied), is that the non-comms (stations below 92 not counting Pulse 87.7...aka: colleges) should try a dance formatted station. It's been like that in Seattle on C-89.5 (KNHC) for years. We had something like that here with B-91 (WKRB - Kingsborough Community College), although I've NEVER heard that station during it's 80's heyday being in the northernest Bronx. I'd like to see colleges, especially outside of New York City, try this route. Aside from filling a void in the marketplace, it also does give an education in terms of how radio is run regarding playlists, rotation "clocks", on-air delivery, etc. I'm sure the dance oriented record labels would be more than willing to distribute copies of their material in return for seeing how a track has performed, requests, etc. I know a TON of artists that are dying for some sort of exposure. Should dance/rhythmic formats above 92 launch as a result of this, then that's where everyone wins. And to that, take the "lessons" of Pulse 87 as well as 'KTU, Party 105 and Hot 103/97 so as we know what has to be done and what to avoid.
 
I agree with you Tony like some people complain about stuff , and when there pryers are answered they still complain thats how it goes....... like i said before im not a dance fan but i do hope Pulse 87 stay around for a long time n move up the dial because KTU dont know what format it represents like i love hip-hop but i do listen to other stations here in nyc just to check out other music outside hip-hop
 
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