I stand up for Mr. Fee

[nathanmitchell]

Okay Cleveland...

I am going to say this once and only once! I stand up for Mr. Fee. I know that the keyboards are smoking by now and I could care less. Below I will point out a few reasons behind my support for Mr. Fee.

First reason of support:
Mr. Allan Fee knows how to keep a station alive! I have every respect in the world for this man. He took a drowning station and gave it enough oxygen so it will breathe again. Even if the station is below the top ten, that is 12+.

Allan may not be the worlds best programmer, but is the PD of KISS, or MIX, or NCX? We all go in and do our job and as long as we make corporate happy, our job is complete.

I was mentored under Allan back in the mid 90's. He told me one thing,"Radio is going to be changing and it's not going to stop and wait for the best. Its going to accept whoever is willing to do the job." I now program a 3,000 watt station in BFE Ohio, but he is correct. We all want to be the best PD in the world, but it is impossible. If I were to go out on a limb and PD a station the way I wanted, I would be fired. Not because a loss in ratings. NO. Because corporate wants cookie cutter employees who dont bite back.

Second reason of support:
INFINITY!!!!! Okay, a few of you dislike Clear Channel, and a few dislike Infinity. Allan is employed by a company that isn't sure how they want to be handled right now. Allan can't walk out and sell his station to Clear Channel or Elyria Lorain. What kind of support are they throwing him? How much money are they giving him? From what I understand, Allan has a very tight budget and has to bend over backwards to kiss NYC's back end...

We all work in radio. We all have budget. I think Mr. Fee is doing a fine job in one major respect- LIVE DJ'S from 6A-10P. I have to hand it to him! Most stations are lucky if they are live four hours, let alone 16!

How much external marketing money does Infinity provide the station? I see one...yes ONE billboard in the city advertising Q104.

One FINAL reason of support:
He is Allan Fee. How dare anyone complain about the way he runs HIS station. Would you walk up to Hallett? Mason, Monroe, Stevens? Seriously!!!!

Why dont we all focus on making our own stations the best. If you think you are determined to hate Allan, prove it by making your station beat all of his demos.

It is obvious that Cleveland has some holes that need to be filled. Hot AC is not a strong format in the city and never has. Maybe Q104 go the same as WBBM. I think a Rhythmic station in Cleveland would do well. Of course a FM Talk would do the same.

What I am trying to say...FOCUS ON YOUR OWN STATION AND NOT Q104 or Q92 or XTREME or whatever. If you are a real programmer, you only need to worry about one thing, YOUR OWN STATION!!!!!!!

I know this is going to cause huge controversy, but I will tell you one thing. If you want to post threads poking holes into my post, that shows your immaturity. We work in the business because we love it. If you want to use this board as a smokescreen, go ahead, but seriously....GROW UP!

 

[Mothership]

Amen!!

Fee is a damn good programmer.
I've seen what he's done with a radio station that
no one really cared about anymore....and its been impressive.
He did a pretty incredible job in St. Louis too.
I've met him on a number of times, and he happens to be a great guy.
Probably too good a guy to dignify any of the bashing here.

By the way, oddly enough, Im one of the guys the bashers have praised in the same posts!!

 

[lovethebiz]

> Okay Cleveland...
>
> I am going to say this once and only once! I stand up for
> Mr. Fee. I know that the keyboards are smoking by now and I
> could care less. Below I will point out a few reasons
> behind my support for Mr. Fee.

---I think you meant "I COULDN't care less." To say you "could" care less implies that you indeed care...and I don't think that's the feeling you're trying to convey. Sorry. Pet-peeve of mine. (Now, before you jump all over me, read on.)

>
> We all work in radio. We all have budget. I think Mr. Fee
> is doing a fine job in one major respect- LIVE DJ'S from
> 6A-10P. I have to hand it to him! Most stations are lucky
> if they are live four hours, let alone 16!

---Great point! Live DJ's...a thing of the past. I hate all the VT-ing you hear on ALL the area stations. I mentioned in another post, when was the last time you heard a current temp outside AMD and PMD?!?!?!?! Got to give them some credit for having someone in the studio!


> How much external marketing money does Infinity provide the
> station? I see one...yes ONE billboard in the city
> advertising Q104.

---Another great point. I can't imagine how frustrating it must be to have to run a station in a major market with little to no marketing $. Sure, go beat the competetion...but we're not giving you any marketing money...gee, thanks! Talk about feeling helpless.


> One FINAL reason of support:
> He is Allan Fee. How dare anyone complain about the way he
> runs HIS station. Would you walk up to Hallett? Mason,
> Monroe, Stevens? Seriously!!!!


---You're right here as well. I know you shouldn't judge a person for better or worse in just 5 minutes, but, in those 5 minutes, he could have been nice or a jerk, and he was very pleasant. Have had very limited face time with the others you mentioned and found them to be very cordial.

> Why dont we all focus on making our own stations the best.
> If you think you are determined to hate Allan, prove it by
> making your station beat all of his demos.

---By the way, I'm not a huge fan or foe of Q104. I'm neither here nor there on the station. But, perhaps, not ALL, maybe some, but not ALL the criticism of Alan is warranted.

> It is obvious that Cleveland has some holes that need to be
> filled. Hot AC is not a strong format in the city and never
> has. Maybe Q104 go the same as WBBM. I think a Rhythmic
> station in Cleveland would do well. Of course a FM Talk
> would do the same.
>
> What I am trying to say...FOCUS ON YOUR OWN STATION AND NOT
> Q104 or Q92 or XTREME or whatever. If you are a real
> programmer, you only need to worry about one thing, YOUR OWN
> STATION!!!!!!!
>
> I know this is going to cause huge controversy, but I will
> tell you one thing. If you want to post threads poking
> holes into my post, that shows your immaturity. We work in
> the business because we love it. If you want to use this
> board as a smokescreen, go ahead, but seriously....GROW UP!
>

 

[Lehos]

> Okay Cleveland...
>
> I am going to say this once and only once! I stand up for
> Mr. Fee. I know that the keyboards are smoking by now and I
> could care less. Below I will point out a few reasons
> behind my support for Mr. Fee.


I am listening to you Mr. Fee. Plead your case.

>
> First reason of support:
> Mr. Allan Fee knows how to keep a station alive! I have
> every respect in the world for this man. He took a drowning
> station and gave it enough oxygen so it will breathe again.
> Even if the station is below the top ten, that is 12+.

Well, Brian Figula knew how to keep a station alive. It is NO SECRET in Cleveland Ohio that it was the excellent skills of APD and PM Drive host Fig that kept that station sounding good. And don't discredit John Connor, either. He does incredible things to keep that station afloat. Just because a person is PD doesn't mean they are actually the ones doing ANY of the work. We will see now that Fig is in a better place how the station goes. And prior to the Fig days, was the station really alive?

>
> Allan may not be the worlds best programmer, but is the PD
> of KISS, or MIX, or NCX? We all go in and do our job and as
> long as we make corporate happy, our job is complete.

Dan Mason is keeping Kiss Cleveland one of the best sounding CHR's in the country!! With a SOLID airstaff, the recent return of Kasper for PM Drive and APD/MD, and a SOLID MUSIC ROTATION (ahem, Q)...Dan Mason and Mr. Fee are UNCOMPARABLE. My apologies to Mr. Mason for being brought up in a thread about Mr. Fee.

The new PD at Mix seems to be doing alright. After months of more insecurity than 'QAL, Mix is starting to have a consistant sound...albeit..a bit different than the traditional Hot AC. I call it a Variety Hits/Rock AC mix with some weird fascination with "You'll Think of Me" by Keith Urban.

'NCX has been consistant and given the fact that Classic Rock is more of a dying breed than Hot AC, the station has performed recently well. Again, a solid airstaff. Now, when Stern leaves...who knows....But 'NCX has been loyal to Stern.

As for we all go into our job to make corporate happy. If that is the only reason you are working in radio that is sad and pathetic and a downright WASTE OF RADIO! Sure, we all have to keep corporate happy in the 21st century, but that is NOT the job description. Reading that sentance makes me CRINGE WITH FEAR. If you can't do ANYTHING on your own, then you are NOT an affective PD. An affective PD goes along with corporate but lets them know that they are still an individual station and will at least provide quality input rather than kissing corporate rectum.


> I was mentored under Allan back in the mid 90's.

I'm sorry.


He told me
> one thing,"Radio is going to be changing and it's not going
> to stop and wait for the best. Its going to accept whoever
> is willing to do the job." I now program a 3,000 watt
> station in BFE Ohio, but he is correct. We all want to be
> the best PD in the world, but it is impossible. If I were
> to go out on a limb and PD a station the way I wanted, I
> would be fired. Not because a loss in ratings. NO.
> Because corporate wants cookie cutter employees who dont
> bite back.

While, again, this is an issue, it is NOT THE ONLY WAY THINGS ARE DONE. You were mentored by Mr. Fee and now you are THINKING LIKE MR. FEE. Mr. Fee has brainwashed you. Again, i'm sorry. That statement right there PROVES that Mr. Fee is in NO POSITION to be a radio programmer with that train of though.
>
> Second reason of support:
> INFINITY!!!!! Okay, a few of you dislike Clear Channel, and
> a few dislike Infinity. Allan is employed by a company that
> isn't sure how they want to be handled right now. Allan
> can't walk out and sell his station to Clear Channel or
> Elyria Lorain. What kind of support are they throwing him?
> How much money are they giving him? From what I understand,
> Allan has a very tight budget and has to bend over backwards
> to kiss NYC's back end...


Still no excuse for shoddy inconsistent programming and a horrible attitude towards his employees.
>
> We all work in radio. We all have budget. I think Mr. Fee
> is doing a fine job in one major respect- LIVE DJ'S from
> 6A-10P. I have to hand it to him! Most stations are lucky
> if they are live four hours, let alone 16!

And I give him credit for this. Even with the loss of Fig, he keeps a live airstaff on from 6a-10p and a quality airstaff on from 10a-10p. But do most PD's, when their morning man relocates, go "Hmmmm, I think i'll give this morning show host thing a shot", fail at it, and still be at it a year and a half later? It is UNPROFESSIONAL how Mr. Fee has made himself not only the PD but the focal point of the airstaff.
>
> How much external marketing money does Infinity provide the
> station? I see one...yes ONE billboard in the city
> advertising Q104.

And this has what to do with Mr. Fee?
>
> One FINAL reason of support:
> He is Allan Fee. How dare anyone complain about the way he
> runs HIS station. Would you walk up to Hallett? Mason,
> Monroe, Stevens? Seriously!!!!

You mean Infinity and Chris Maduri's station? Mr. Fee is the program director, not the father of WQAL. And yes, if any of the above mentioned PD's were as bad as Mr. Fee (as Ms. Monroe has been mentioned) we would be talking like this.

> Why dont we all focus on making our own stations the best.
> If you think you are determined to hate Allan, prove it by
> making your station beat all of his demos.

I'm determined to bring the truth of Mr. Fee and WQAL.

>
> It is obvious that Cleveland has some holes that need to be
> filled. Hot AC is not a strong format in the city and never
> has. Maybe Q104 go the same as WBBM. I think a Rhythmic
> station in Cleveland would do well. Of course a FM Talk
> would do the same.
>
> What I am trying to say...FOCUS ON YOUR OWN STATION AND NOT
> Q104 or Q92 or XTREME or whatever. If you are a real
> programmer, you only need to worry about one thing, YOUR OWN
> STATION!!!!!!!

So trying to beat out the competition means nothing?
>
> I know this is going to cause huge controversy, but I will
> tell you one thing. If you want to post threads poking
> holes into my post, that shows your immaturity. We work in
> the business because we love it. If you want to use this
> board as a smokescreen, go ahead, but seriously....GROW UP!

If you are so mature and grown up as you claim to be, was it necessary to take this whole recent Mr. Fee/'QAL topic to a THIRD thread?


As a final note. I attended today's Browns game and saw the 'QAL tent and observed Mr. Fee. In the few minutes I was there, he acted like an egotistcal maniac who was obsessed with his name and image, walking around with the "I'm Lord Allan Fee" smirk on his face. He was also visably rude to both Jen Toohey and the various interns and street team members at the event, nitpicking and being a downright degrading and soul-less person. My apologies to the One Radio Lane staff for having to work with this man. He makes Mr. Trout over at Hot 101 look like nothing.

 

[nate81]

More reasons to despise Allan Fee (long!)...

> > Okay Cleveland...
> >
> > I am going to say this once and only once! I stand up for
> > Mr. Fee. I know that the keyboards are smoking by now and I
> > could care less. Below I will point out a few reasons
> > behind my support for Mr. Fee.
>
>
> I am listening to you Mr. Fee. Plead your case.

(Cue up the Mike Myers/Dr. Evil impersonation) "I shall call him... 'mini-Fee!'"

> > First reason of support:
> > Mr. Allan Fee knows how to keep a station alive! I have
> > every respect in the world for this man. He took a drowning
> > station and gave it enough oxygen so it will breathe again.

Huh? WQAL never was "drowning" back in 2000. It was staid and boring, but I never saw it in dire trouble at all... ==>

> Well, Brian Figula knew how to keep a station alive.

<== ...but it WAS drowning when Fig came in. Half of the weekday airstaff bolted, there was no logical music selection, and no real identity, period. Huh, I wonder who was WQAL's PD then. Oh, right. Sorry.

> It is
> NO SECRET in Cleveland Ohio that it was the excellent skills
> of APD and PM Drive host Fig that kept that station sounding
> good. And don't discredit John Connor, either. He does
> incredible things to keep that station afloat.

I'd like to see John Connor get a PD shot myself. He really show a true commitment to the station, and is quite creative and cares about his listeners. Sadly, he, Fig and Jen Toohey are the only good hires that Fee has made. After several previously failed attempts.

> > Allan may not be the worlds best programmer, but is the PD
> > of KISS, or MIX, or NCX? We all go in and do our job and as
> > long as we make corporate happy, our job is complete.
>
> Dan Mason is keeping Kiss Cleveland one of the best sounding
> CHR's in the country!! With a SOLID airstaff, the recent
> return of Kasper for PM Drive and APD/MD, and a SOLID MUSIC
> ROTATION (ahem, Q)...Dan Mason and Mr. Fee are UNCOMPARABLE.
> My apologies to Mr. Mason for being brought up in a thread
> about Mr. Fee.

An aside: I remember when Dan seriously laid into Allan on-air back in December 2000, when WQAL set up a rip-off Christmas concert, days after 104.9 announced their own "Kissmas". Dan went so far as to calling Allan and chiding him ('Screw the Q!') on the air. That was precious!

I'm not a CHR guy. But Dan Mason's great at WAKS, and his track record at 104.9/96.5 speaks for itself.

> > I was mentored under Allan back in the mid 90's.
>
> I'm sorry.

Me, too. You're in my prayers.

> > He told me
> > one thing,"Radio is going to be changing and it's not going
> > to stop and wait for the best. Its going to accept whoever
> > is willing to do the job." I now program a 3,000 watt
> > station in BFE Ohio, but he is correct. We all want to be
> > the best PD in the world, but it is impossible. If I were
> > to go out on a limb and PD a station the way I wanted, I
> > would be fired. Not because a loss in ratings. NO.
> > Because corporate wants cookie cutter employees who dont
> > bite back.
>
> While, again, this is an issue, it is NOT THE ONLY WAY
> THINGS ARE DONE. You were mentored by Mr. Fee and now you
> are THINKING LIKE MR. FEE. Mr. Fee has brainwashed you.
> Again, i'm sorry. That statement right there PROVES that Mr.
> Fee is in NO POSITION to be a radio programmer with that
> train of though.

To me, radio is like warfare. You program to win. Allan can't win, and sadly, he's taught people to follow his lead. Not trying to bad-mouth the Bellefontaine market, but I feel sorry for you guys.

His message is pathetic. And indefensible. I'd NEVER expect to hear that at a radio station, let alone a broadcasting class! But it smells like Allan Fee.

Listen, I have one message. It's the anti-Allan Fee message:

YOU ALWAYS TRY TO DO YOUR VERY BEST AT WHATEVER YOU DO. IF YOU FEEL YOURSELF HAMSTRUNG BY YOUR BOSSES IN CORPORATE, LEAVE YOUR JOB. TAKE UP FISHING, OR WOODCARVING. OR START UP YOUR OWN INTERNET RADIO STATION. AMAZE YOUR FRIENDS!

SERIOUSLY, IF YOU DON'T LIKE YOUR JOB, THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION TO GO HALF-@$$ AT IT. YOU DO A DISSERVICE TO YOURSELF AND THOSE AROUND YOU. ALWAYS AIM FOR THE NUMBER-ONE SPOT, NO MATTER WHAT.

Thank you.

> > Second reason of support:
> > INFINITY!!!!! Okay, a few of you dislike Clear Channel, and
> > a few dislike Infinity. Allan is employed by a company that
> > isn't sure how they want to be handled right now. Allan
> > can't walk out and sell his station to Clear Channel or
> > Elyria Lorain. What kind of support are they throwing him?
> > How much money are they giving him? From what I understand,
> > Allan has a very tight budget and has to bend over backwards
> > to kiss NYC's back end...
>
>
> Still no excuse for shoddy inconsistent programming and a
> horrible attitude towards his employees.

I second. I can't get his programming philosophy, and haven't since he came to the station in 2000. The APD's (either Steve Brown, Dan Binder or Fig) have really dictated the course of the station; and when they left, the station tanked even further in quality.

> > We all work in radio. We all have budget. I think Mr. Fee
> > is doing a fine job in one major respect- LIVE DJ'S from
> > 6A-10P. I have to hand it to him! Most stations are lucky
> > if they are live four hours, let alone 16!
>
> And I give him credit for this. Even with the loss of Fig,
> he keeps a live airstaff on from 6a-10p and a quality
> airstaff on from 10a-10p. But do most PD's, when their
> morning man relocates, go "Hmmmm, I think i'll give this
> morning show host thing a shot", fail at it, and still be at
> it a year and a half later? It is UNPROFESSIONAL how Mr.
> Fee has made himself not only the PD but the focal point of
> the airstaff.

He could have offered it to John Connor. Or Fig. Or have Rebecca go solo with Glenn, Brian and Nick. The last option was very realistic, and was labeled as such on their website for several weeks.

But he weaseled his way onto their show. I'm sorry, I see it as weaseling. It's also non-creative and unimaginative - not just unprofessional. That's the best he could do?

> > One FINAL reason of support:
> > He is Allan Fee. How dare anyone complain about the way he
> > runs HIS station. Would you walk up to Hallett? Mason,
> > Monroe, Stevens? Seriously!!!!
>
> You mean Infinity and Chris Maduri's station? Mr. Fee is the
> program director, not the father of WQAL. And yes, if any of
> the above mentioned PD's were as bad as Mr. Fee (as Ms.
> Monroe has been mentioned) we would be talking like this.

Kim Monroe has scored major points in my book for three big things: 1) the "Smells like the End" weekends, 2) bringing back some of the old End talent - especially Bull and Rocko, and 3) slowly phasing out the unnecessary "Xtreme" label.

But what took so long for her to do this is the real question. Oh, well... better late than never.

Meg Stevens has had no background in the oldies format before taking the WMJI post. Unfortunately, it shows. While Majic can run itself, I don't want it to be a mediocre product.

> > Why dont we all focus on making our own stations the best.
> > If you think you are determined to hate Allan, prove it by
> > making your station beat all of his demos.
>
> I'm determined to bring the truth of Mr. Fee and WQAL.

I hold no connections whatsoever with Infinity, WQAL or Fee. In fact, if we were in the same room, I wouldn't be able to spot him at all. Which is why his apparent narcissism scares me.

I can't realistically validate any Fee stories. But he's not a good programmer at WQAL - the proof is in the station's output both musically and personality-wise.

> > It is obvious that Cleveland has some holes that need to be
> > filled. Hot AC is not a strong format in the city and never
> > has.

DING DING DING!!!

I was wondering when someone would get to this. I could care less for the HAC format. Especially when WDOK beats WMVX's and WQAL's brains out, as has been the case since 1999.

While WDOK's PD is Scott Miller, they essentially use the formula that Mike "Skippy" Popovich (and beforehand, Sue Wilson) developed back in 1999. And they get top ratings in the process.

> > Maybe Q104 go the same as WBBM. I think a Rhythmic
> > station in Cleveland would do well. Of course a FM Talk
> > would do the same.

I'd love for 104.1 to go the "classic alternative" route, blending WXTM's rock format with "The End's" music library. Ironically, it looks like it's slowly taking place at 92.3 already.

Just transplant it - and Rover - at 104.1 as "WXEN- Cleveland's Modern Rock: 104.1 The X!" Then "Jack" up 92.3, and all's well with the world in my book. I'll never complain again.

> As a final note. I attended today's Browns game and saw the
> 'QAL tent and observed Mr. Fee. In the few minutes I was
> there, he acted like an egotistcal maniac who was obsessed
> with his name and image, walking around with the "I'm Lord
> Allan Fee" smirk on his face. He was also visably rude to
> both Jen Toohey and the various interns and street team
> members at the event, nitpicking and being a downright
> degrading and soul-less person. My apologies to the One
> Radio Lane staff for having to work with this man. He makes
> Mr. Trout over at Hot 101 look like nothing.

Again, read into my narcissism concerns earlier.

- nate81
<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partnership Representative: LCCC Student Senate, Elyria, Ohio

Soon-to-be-webmaster - http://www.lcccradio.com</P>

 

[chacha]

Re: More reasons to despise Allan Fee (long!)...

Alright, I despise the point by point "intellectual" posts that some of us do,
but there are a few keys points I'd like to address in the previous post.

> Huh? WQAL never was "drowning" back in 2000. It was staid
> and boring, but I never saw it in dire trouble at all... ==>

In fact it was...and Infinity was giving serious thought to flipping the format at the time.


> I'd like to see John Connor get a PD shot myself. He really
> show a true commitment to the station, and is quite creative
> and cares about his listeners. Sadly, he, Fig and Jen Toohey
> are the only good hires that Fee has made. After several
> previously failed attempts.

Wow...almost the whole airstaff...pretty damn good batting order.
I'd say most PD's make one or two great hires in their entire tenure.


> > Dan Mason is keeping Kiss Cleveland one of the best
> sounding
> > CHR's in the country!! With a SOLID airstaff, the recent
> > return of Kasper for PM Drive and APD/MD, and a SOLID
> MUSIC
> > ROTATION (ahem, Q)...Dan Mason and Mr. Fee are
> UNCOMPARABLE.

However, Q104 has consistently been one of the better rated stations in its
format. No so for Kiss/Cleveland.

> An aside: I remember when Dan seriously laid into Allan
> on-air back in December 2000, when WQAL set up a rip-off
> Christmas concert, days after 104.9 announced their own
> "Kissmas". Dan went so far as to calling Allan and chiding
> him ('Screw the Q!') on the air. That was precious!

Ooooh. Groundbreaking, unless you count the fact that Clear Channel began "Screw The Q" in Tampa 15 years ago. Gotta love those reruns!

> Listen, I have one message. It's the anti-Allan Fee message:
> YOU ALWAYS TRY TO DO YOUR VERY BEST AT WHATEVER YOU DO. IF
> YOU FEEL YOURSELF HAMSTRUNG BY YOUR BOSSES IN CORPORATE,
> LEAVE YOUR JOB. TAKE UP FISHING, OR WOODCARVING. OR START UP
> YOUR OWN INTERNET RADIO STATION. AMAZE YOUR FRIENDS!

Which have you chosen, nate? I'll bet the woodcarving!!

> I second. I can't get his programming philosophy, and
> haven't since he came to the station in 2000. The APD's
> (either Steve Brown, Dan Binder or Fig) have really dictated
> the course of the station; and when they left, the station
> tanked even further in quality.

Well, with those guys dictating the "course"...it should have performed great all along....and only poorly since Fig has left. There is no Fee issue.


> He could have offered it to John Connor. Or Fig. Or have
> Rebecca go solo with Glenn, Brian and Nick. The last option
> was very realistic, and was labeled as such on their website
> for several weeks.

So you approve of Rebecca, Glenn, Brian & Nick? Should they
be added to the "good hire" list?


> I can't realistically validate any Fee stories. But he's not
> a good programmer at WQAL - the proof is in the station's
> output both musically and personality-wise.

But you continue to berate him for actions and treatment of staff without
the ability to know? How incredibly unfair that is.


> While WDOK's PD is Scott Miller, they essentially use the
> formula that Mike "Skippy" Popovich (and beforehand, Sue
> Wilson) developed back in 1999. And they get top ratings in
> the process.

Did Sue and Mike develop that formula? Really?
Would Mike McVay agree?

>
> > > Maybe Q104 go the same as WBBM. I think a Rhythmic
> > > station in Cleveland would do well. Of course a FM Talk
> > > would do the same.

I'm sure your perceptuals are accurate. Maybe Infinity should
use you as a consultant. Could you guarantee billing?
>
> Just transplant it - and Rover - at 104.1 as "WXEN-
> Cleveland's Modern Rock: 104.1 The X!" Then "Jack" up 92.3,
> and all's well with the world in my book. I'll never
> complain again.

Did you know Fee was a very succesful Modern Rock PD before coming to
Cleveland?
And JACK...that would make you happy?


It's scary to me that you seem to have a PERSONAL vendetta against the
man. I might criticize Barry Bonds...but I certainly can't hit 40+
major league home runs a year. And I seriously question whether you
could adequately program a major market radio station. Fee has proven that
he can.

 

[XL]

ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

For crying out loud Nate81 and some of you others....

I am past the point of fed-up of seeing the same bitching and moaning about the same radio station. If it's not one "Q", it's another.

People are entitled to their opinion (like you) and others are certainly welcome to challenge your opinion. Especially if they back it up with facts and substance. I have not been too impressed with your threads in regards to this station because all you've been doing is simply dragging a PD's name in the ground, along with the station. The entire time, you've failed to provide any kind of substance to support your spewings. Opinion does not make it fact.

I am not going to tolerate the creation of new threads about the same station because you're trying to make a point and see you continuously bash a PD. Create your own website if you want to do that, but you certainly are NOT going to continue to do it here any longer.

It stops now or some of you will see your ability to post taken away (in english means "banned").

 

[network]

The Truth Is Revealed!

And the truth is finally revealed:

> I could care less for the HAC format.

Then, WTF (that "W" is for 'why') are you even commenting on a format you don't even like?? That's REALLY stupid. Nothing makes someone look more like an ass than commenting on a format you can careless for. There are formats I don't like, so I don't listen. I am sure there are many people who do the same thing. Pretty simple.

> Especially when WDOK beats WMVX's
> and WQAL's brains out, as has been the case since 1999.

I didn't feel like tearing apart your other asinine comments (because it's already been done), but WDOK is NOT in the same demographic as WQAL. Anyone with a clue would know that.

Fact is, WQAL was struggling hard up until recently. And the staff you so much love to defend from the past -- when WQAL SOUNDED UNFOCUSED (LIKE CRAP) -- were getting their clocks cleaned! Big time! When will you learn to know what you're talking about prior to posting?

I'd love for 104.1 to go the "classic alternative" route,
> blending WXTM's rock format with "The End's" music library.
> Ironically, it looks like it's slowly taking place at 92.3
> already.

Please show us proof that this format would bill the same amount, if not MORE, than WQAL currently does. Again, some of you with your "I'd like to hear" comments...just crack me up. That's up there with people suggesting we need a Rhythmic station in this town. Umm...hello??!! Anybody listening to what's currently being programmed in this market?!?!

Nate...until you have any kind of credentials whatsoever, who the hell do you think you are to flamethrow ANY PD in this market -- and make the comments you do towards people who have the stuff you don't: experience, credentials and knowledge. Once you've actually proven yourself, you better cherish that college radio gig you've got going because I can't see anyone actually hiring you for a real radio gig.

Hugs n Kisses,
Dick

 

[JohnboyCrenshaw]

Re: a musing, an observation and reality

> I'd say most PD's make one or two great hires in their
> entire tenure.

Darn! I've used up my allocation, and I'm only 40!

> > While WDOK's PD is Scott Miller, they essentially use the
> > formula that Mike "Skippy" Popovich (and beforehand, Sue
> > Wilson) developed back in 1999. And they get top ratings
> > in the process.
>
> Did Sue and Mike develop that formula? Really?
> Would Mike McVay agree?

Isn't Mr. Popovich's first name Dave? Also, Sue and Mike have always been wonderful people to me.

> I'm sure your perceptuals are accurate. Maybe Infinity
> should use you as a consultant. Could you guarantee billing?

Can anyone identify a successful, compatible and time-bound resource that would only accept a check when the station moved from a 1.8 to a 2.1 AQH rating in 6 months? That would be worth a conversation.

Best,
JbC

 

[scottmiller]

Re: IMPORTANT READ

WOW!

OK folks, take a step back and breathe deep. I come here occasionally to see what the buzz is about and have never felt compelled enough to post. Today is a new day…

To say I’m amused at the ramblings is an understatement. Like I said, I come here occasionally to see what’s going on and have always enjoyed the fact that my name is delightfully absent. Got to tell ya, it’s nice to go about my business with a level of anonymity here that keeps me focused and out of the line of fire. Now that I’m seeing more of me (Why? I’m boring and so is my station) I feel a little clarity is in order.

1) I’m not here to defend, indict, applaud, flame or praise Mr. Fee, Myself, Meg Stevens, Infinity, Kim Monroe, CCU, John Gorman, or any other individual that has been spoken to or on behalf of some of the posters here on this board. Some of you simply don’t know enough to have an opinion based on fact.

2) When reading comments about me or my station with respect to the programmers that have come before me, I take offense when it’s stated that Dave “Skippy” Popovich, Sue Wilson, Mike McVay or others have laid the groundwork of which I apparently follow. Please keep such shallow perceptions to yourself. While AC is it’s own animal, like all formats, it does take a certain amount of intellect, foresight and creativity to keep it going. I’ve worked with Sue, Dave and Mike as well as many others that have helped shape my vision. To say that I just follow a formula put in place by them is an ignorant statement.

3) Want to talk radio? Here’s my direct line. (216) 363-7136. While certain information is privileged, general philosophy, market trends, cultural trends, music trends and why you hate or love certain programming is always welcome. Call…I’m not kidding. Want to know how and why we got our ass handed to us in the spring book? Want to know how I handled it and came up with a strategy to rebound in the summer? How did we do in the summer? CALL! We all got into this business for the love of radio. I love to talk radio. Agree with me or disagree, who cares. Open dialogue is always better than chicken (BLEEP) posters hiding behind a FAKE user name. Call…

4) Back to Mr. Fee. Our offices are right next to each other. We talk, work for the same company and sometimes socialize. Personal attacks based on hearsay, opinion or the ramblings of a friend of a friend are unjust and immature. I stated above that I’m not here to indict or defend Mr. Fee or any others. What I am saying is pick up a phone. Call… Talk about radio. Call Allan. Go to a promotion and strike up a conversation. Base your “opinions” on as much fact as you can, then qualify your post by pointing out that you are merely stating “opinion”. If you feel the need to attack personally, reveal yourself and confront that person like an adult.

5) While I don’t condone some of the behavior I’ve seen at times, I do appreciate the enthusiasm and passion for radio displayed. Terrestrial radio is embarking on a new era. Some of us keepers of the keys to the bridge to the future will have to find a way to bottle your enthusiasm and unleash it in the days, weeks and years to come. Keep listening; it’s good for all of us.

Scott Miller