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I take a break and go to Greece to live...

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allisonmarie2010

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I take a break from the USA and go to the UK to live with my aunt, come back and the SF radio market changes are unbelievable! What Happened? No more 99.7/610 KFRC? Which insane person had that brain failure? No more Smooth Jazz on 103.7 KKSF? Where's Bernie Ward? What happened to the pro's that used to make this market so unique? This is unreal! Hello everyone?
 
allisonmarie2010 said:
I take a break from the USA and go to the UK to live with my aunt, come back and the SF radio market changes are unbelievable! What Happened? No more 99.7/610 KFRC? Which insane person had that brain failure? No more Smooth Jazz on 103.7 KKSF? Where's Bernie Ward? What happened to the pro's that used to make this market so unique? This is unreal! Hello everyone?

Didn't you have access to the internet?
 
Lkeller said:
What part of the United Kingdom is Greece in?

Anybody want to tackle this one?

soon baby...After the election in North Minehead. It is said that historically, Greece is a part of Minehead already.
 
Actually, Allisonmarie was in the running for Miss Teen USA, and was heading for the Greece, such as, because many U.S. Americans out there in our nation don't have international road map atlases such as, and she ended up in the British U.K.

Such as.

Welcome back. Thought you'd been abducted by aliens and what-not.
 
BossRadioDJ said:
Actually, Allisonmarie was in the running for Miss Teen USA, and was heading for the Greece, such as, because many U.S. Americans out there in our nation don't have international road map atlases such as, and she ended up in the British U.K.

Such as.

Welcome back. Thought you'd been abducted by aliens and what-not.

I don't know who's worse: allisonmarie for misidentifying Greece's location or bossradiodj for a choppy, ill-thought explanation that confuses his message further.
 
This thread is sounding mean spirited. I'm sorry if I started it. I was hoping somebody who is more 'inside radio' would answer allisonmarie's question. All I would say is - corporations own radio stations to make money, and both Smooth Jazz and Oldies stations are being flipped to other formats all over the country because their ratings are declining, and those two formats increasingly only bring in demographics that are undesirable to advertisers...ie.: too old, like me.

In LA, both formats are surviving (KRTH, and KTWV), but I don't know that you can compare the huge LA market to the Bay Area. Also, those two stations have the benefit of a brilliant Program Director (Jhani Kaye) who first fine-tuned K-Earth into a revived powerhouse, and is reportedly now making changes at The Wave to keep Smooth Jazz afloat.
 
Lkeller said:
This thread is sounding mean spirited. I'm sorry if I started it. I was hoping somebody who is more 'inside radio' would answer allisonmarie's question. All I would say is - corporations own radio stations to make money, and both Smooth Jazz and Oldies stations are being flipped to other formats all over the country because their ratings are declining, and those two formats increasingly only bring in demographics that are undesirable to advertisers...ie.: too old, like me.

In LA, both formats are surviving (KRTH, and KTWV), but I don't know that you can compare the huge LA market to the Bay Area. Also, those two stations have the benefit of a brilliant Program Director (Jhani Kaye) who first fine-tuned K-Earth into a revived powerhouse, and is reportedly now making changes at The Wave to keep Smooth Jazz afloat.

Unless you take 1260 into account, LA has neither format.

KRTH is classic hits, not oldies. It totally changed format.
KTWV is not smooth jazz, it is smooth AC, and the things that would be considere unique to smooth jazz are long gone. It totally changed format.
 
Pardon me for using incorrect terminology, DE. I'm aware that The Wave's format has been evolving, and that KRTH is classified as Classic Hits. KFRC had become a Classic Hits station, also - before it flipped...twice. First on 99.7 before it became MOViN, and again at 106.9.
 
David, do you really think it is accurate to say that KRTH "totally changed format?"

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that KRTH's format has evolved.

They didn't change djs, imaging or contests for the most part. I bet if you asked 9 out of 10 people who listen to KRTH, what the format was, they'd still say oldies.

This morning at Midnight, KRTH played the following 13 songs:



Steely Dan Rikki Don't Lose That Number
Blood, Sweat & Tears You've Made Me So Very Happy
Al Green Let's Stay Together
Dusty Springfield Son Of A Preacher Man
Eurythmics Here Comes The Rain Again
James Brown & The Famous Flames I Got You (I Feel Good)
Don McLean American Pie
B.J. Thomas Hooked On A Feeling
Tavares Heaven Must Be Missing An Angel
Diana Ross & The Supremes Someday We'll Be Together
The Beatles Something
Todd Rundgren Hello It's Me
The Spencer Davis Group Gimme Some Lovin'

11 out of these 13 songs would have been played on KRTH 5 years of even 10 years ago.

KHJ switching from top 40 to country or KMET switching from AOR to New Age or KKGO switching from classical to country is totally changing formats. KRTH adding some songs from the late 1970s and 80s is not.
 
briancraig said:
David, do you really think it is accurate to say that KRTH "totally changed format?"

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that KRTH's format has evolved.

They didn't change djs, imaging or contests for the most part. I bet if you asked 9 out of 10 people who listen to KRTH, what the format was, they'd still say oldies.

This morning at Midnight, KRTH played the following 13 songs:



11 out of these 13 songs would have been played on KRTH 5 years of even 10 years ago.

KHJ switching from top 40 to country or KMET switching from AOR to New Age or KKGO switching from classical to country is totally changing formats. KRTH adding some songs from the late 1970s and 80s is not.

I've noticed that in other formats as well. Kiss-Fm (KISQ) labeled itself as "Today's R&B and Classic Soul" for a few years, then changed the label to "Old School and Today's R&B," which was just a different label for the same thing. Basically, it consisted of soul and Motown hits from the 70s. It was very rare that anything from 'today' was played.

Now they're labeled as "urban AC," and they've added white artists (Madonna, George Michael, etc), and some urban hits of the 90s from groups like Boyz 2 Men. But really, if you listen over any half-hour period, 75% of what you'll hear will be the same soul hits from the 70s (Marvin Gaye, Supremes, Emotions, Earth Wind & Fire, Al Green, etc.) that they've been playing since 1998.

I would assume the strategy is to bring in younger listeners without having your traditional core audience (urban baby boomers) tune out.
 
Whoops. While we were all talking among ourselves, Allisonmarie just caught a Greyhound Bus and is headed back to Greece...
 
Can anyone blame her for running away from all this madness? BTW KRTH was playing most of those songs listed back in the 70's. I was there in the Los Angeles for most of the 70's. The eighties songs of course not.
 
briancraig said:
David, do you really think it is accurate to say that KRTH "totally changed format?"

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that KRTH's format has evolved.

I think we are both right. (I should be a politician)

KRTH evolved, but quite fast. They restructured the format, changed the jock style, and replaced more than half the library with things from the 70's and 80's. But they didn't do it from one day to the next, of course.

KHJ switching from top 40 to country or KMET switching from AOR to New Age or KKGO switching from classical to country is totally changing formats. KRTH adding some songs from the late 1970s and 80s is not.

Changing from a nearly pure 60's focus to a 70's focus is jumping from one format to another, oldies to classic hits. Just as some AC stations have become Hot AC... the average listener will simply like it more or less or about the same, and not think about it. Those of us who worry about sales demos and such will see it as a major change.
 
RadioStarOne said:
Can anyone blame her for running away from all this madness? ......

To wit: HARK! I think Kenny In Concord is near...
;D
--jay
 
April Fool's! lol lol......got cha'! Where is good old Kenny from Concord? And I did get you all talking too! lol...
 
April Fool's! lol lol......got cha'! Where is good old Kenny from Concord? And I did get you all talking too! lol...

So you started your April Fool's joke on March 25 to ... beat the rush?

(Hunkey Snarkey, you missed your cue.)
 
San Francisco Radio has basically really evaporated and evolved into a boring pablum mix.

Been reading these postings on Radio-info for a while and decided that I would
start "chirping" in.

20 years ago, SF Radio was much more Alive and Kicking and Brilliant!!!
 
BossRadioDJ: Someone had to liven this board up! And I did get you all talking!
 
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