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I think Pittsburgh radio sucks

Jacksonville, Cleveland, Orlando, Nashville and even Dayton, OH are all better markets then Pittsburgh, and all smaller markets.
 
What specifically do you like about those markets that you think is superior to Pittsburgh?

One thing I might say is that although it has become something of a local pastime to run down the local sports talk shows, from what I've heard the sports talk here is better than in Central Florida, Orlando included.

I realize we have more teams than Orlando does. And 365 Magic Talk could get old real quick.

But what I found was that instead of really going out and covering Orlando/Tampa/Daytona sports and commenting on them, in Orlando they were resigned to talk about a national scene, of which they had no real insight.

The idea was that it was to attract the transplants to Florida to listen to their show, so therefore they'd talk as much Yankees as Rays. But did I hear interviews with Yankees players or a deal with a member of the New York media covering the team for regular interviews? NO! I heard a host generally commenting off box scores.

I remember once listening to a show there during a time in which the Orlando minor league hockey team was in the playoffs. It wasn't that they were ignoring this to talk about nonsense, which the hosts were.

It was that the way the hosts tried to talk about this event was "Oh, I went to one of their games once."

But even when Point Park was in this year's NAIA World Series, Stan Savran had an interview with their coach to be on top of that.

Now, maybe someone will say "nobody cares about hockey in Orlando or Point Park baseball in Pittsburgh." Okay. But isn't it the job of a sports talk show host to make such topics lively and interesting?

At least there was an attempt to do so here. There wasn't there.
 
1250WTAE said:
Jacksonville, Cleveland, Orlando, Nashville and even Dayton, OH are all better markets then Pittsburgh, and all smaller markets.
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Can you support why you say this? Have you lived or lived a few months recently in those markets to make that statement? I guess I could say well Pittsburgh's market is better than Charleston, WV, Ann Arbor, MI and Toledo, OH and have no backing. I wouldn't do that because I have never spent more than just a passing through or a weekend at either location. I can clearly compare the Pittsburgh market to Central PA because from 1999-2009 I lived in Pittsburgh and since 2009 living in Lancaster. I can tell you hands down that the Pittsburgh market does not suck. I can tell you that Central PA is a terrible area first hand.
 
Not only is Cleveland a better sounding radio market than Pittsburgh, in my opinion the CC properties
there sound better than their Pittsburgh counterparts (WTAM vs. WPGB, WAKS vs. WKST, and WMJI
vs. WWSW).

C.
 
Would you really say WPGB and WTAM are contemporaries? I would argue that KDKA is the Pittsburgh counterpart of WTAM, and that WTAM, with Trivisonno and the sports contracts, is ahead of KDKA.

After all, WTAM has a talk show host who very may well be "The Voice of Cleveland" in Trivisonno and the broadcasts of the Indians, Browns and Cavs, while KDKA-AM has Tradio.

I realize you were trying to compare CC properties, but is a station that is all automated with national shows and on FM really comparable to a station that has strong local content?
 
I lived in all of those markets for years at a time. And I wasn't comparing the sports stations. I think 93.7 The Fan does a great job with local sports, and is better then any of its counterparts in the markets I listed. But for music, personality and overall sound, the markets I listed are way above Pittsburgh.

As Clarke indicated, the Cleveland CC Cluster, with Keith Abrams in charge, are very, very good! Why 3WS doesn't sound as good as Magic 105.7 in Cleveland, I'll never understand.

Moving back to Florida tomorrow. Looking forward to hearing some good radio in those markets again!
 
1250WTAE said:
But for music, personality and overall sound, the markets I listed are way above Pittsburgh.
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You probably also didn't include music genres that aren't among your favorites. Very few people listen to everything.
 
Pratte4Life said:
Would you really say WPGB and WTAM are contemporaries? I would argue that KDKA is the Pittsburgh counterpart of WTAM, and that WTAM, with Trivisonno and the sports contracts, is ahead of KDKA.

After all, WTAM has a talk show host who very may well be "The Voice of Cleveland" in Trivisonno and the broadcasts of the Indians, Browns and Cavs, while KDKA-AM has Tradio.

I realize you were trying to compare CC properties, but is a station that is all automated with national shows and on FM really comparable to a station that has strong local content?
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Yes, I think it's fair to compare CC's Cleveland talk station to CC's Pittsburgh talk station, even if one is on AM
and the other is on FM.

To answer your question with a question: why does CC have strong local content on WTAM and except for Jim
Quinn, not much local content on WPGB? To address that question is to get to the heart of the matter.

BTW, I think Jay Bohannon does a good job with 104.7, considering what he has been given.

C.
 
I pretty much included every format, even though I'm no longer a CHR listener. There isn't a standards format in the markets I listed, so I can't compare them to WJAS. But the new super soft AC formats are starting to pop up in the Florida markets I mentioned.

But for AC, Hot AC, CHR, Rock, Classic Rock, and Classic Hits. All of the markets I mentioned, IMO are stronger then Pittsburgh.
 
OK...I frequent the boards of all those cities, and the regular posters there feel the same way about their local CC cluster as you do about the one in Pittsburgh. And ironically, their clusters are doing pretty well in most of those places.
 
Go check out Columbus Ohio. With 4 seperately programed country stations and more old music formats than current music I'd say Pittbsurgh sounds better than my city.
 
If you want to know WODC 93.3 is 3WS's sister station. But how much Bon Jovi can you endure? Practically 6 radio stations here play songs from "Slippery When Wet" way too much.
 
I'd just like to hear something from "Slippery When Wet" on WDVE now and then.

What I get is "No Rain" by Blind Mellon, which isn't even a rock song.
 
Corporate, I just looked at the playlist. No Bon Jovi listed among the top 80 songs, none in the last 10 played.

If I thought I could hear more "Slippery When Wet" I would listen more. As it is, the last three songs played were rather slow and old.

I know you can't please everybody, but I always felt DVE has ignored the 80s.
 
I think Pittsburgh radio sucks

Submitted in evidence, from this past Saturday evening, the broadcast of WBGG-AM.

Play-by-play of Altoona Curve baseball game (with robotic echoes as if streaming from a low-baud modem back in the AOL dialup days). Loud "pop". Several minutes of dead air. Sound of a phone dialing followed by a couple of rings. A couple more minutes of dead air. String of about 10 PSA's in a row followed by ESPN's play-by-play of Yankees-Red Sox, joined in progress.

Power failure? Aliens destroyed Blair County Ballpark? Crazed Red Sox fan storms the station and forces them to
change feeds at gunpoint? It was never explained, so who knows?
 
I've heard the same malfunctions on 104.7 during Rush. They don't seem to care any more about their bread and butter stations during prime time either. I actually had to send an email to the engineers to let them know about the problem.
 
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