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I wanna keep my analog console

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Groove1670

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Okay,

So HD is the the cards in the future I wanna keep my dynamax console. Is there a way to feed my analog console into a digital converter. Something cost effective.


Is anyone doing this now. I think the Key for small stations is to make the HD conversion cost effective. I know being able to save analog console would be nice.


What other currently operating analog studio/ processing parts can be used in the Digital domain. (once again with a converter) Yes I know it is not digital, but It would allow smaller stations to at least light up those HD receivers.
 
The idea is to eventually BE a digital station...I would start with the console, and work toward the transmitter...Audioarts has small consoles that support this theory...would you feed a stereo FM with a mono console, but still have a stereo generator on? Come on.....
 
I see no reason whatsoever to lose an analog console if you're going all digital.

You'd be better off ridding yourself of any compressed audio before you upgrade boards.
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That said, I don't know how good or bad your console sounds. Otherwise, you can run analog right up until the output of the processor.
 
I agree. Lossy digital compression on your hard drive isn't your friend in the "HD radio" world, home of it's own form of lossy digital compression. If you're analog console is functioning properly there is NO reason to replace it. Only on new music when surround sound becomes an issue and reality on HD radio, if it ever does, will a digital console even be that much better. Worry about gitting your music linear digital and make sure the STL is lossless digital like a Moseley Starlink and get a digital exciter of some sorts. The console is one of the least important things as far as having to be changed (unless it sucks anyway).
 
I agree, start with the transmitter/exciter (of course). Then processing and then the console if desired.

I think the whole idea of the HD is to get the dynamic range up, A 1974 recording is still analog..but it is nice to have full frequency and dynamic range. I'll stick with that analog console. yes there is a difference between mono and stereo. But I don't think a listener is going to say, oh my gawd they are using a analog console, and I can tell. Except those that just happens to have one of those pocket spectrum frequency things :)

Question: are most stations using heavy limiting compression on their HD. If they are, then what is the point of HD I ask ?? I guess let us go back to FM Mono ::)
 
Many stations set the audio up so that the transition from digital to analog and back is not too noticeable. Which leads to heavier processing on the digital path than absolutely necessary. Since there are mostly auto radios lsitening to the digital stream, and the moving radios are most likely to swap back and forth, there's some logic to this position. As the state of the art improves and as receiver penetration improves, there may well be a re - thinking of this position. The system can sound surprisingly good. Actually, analog FM can sound surprisingly good, it just often doesn't, due to non - technical pressures.

On another subject, why don't we follow the naming convention someone put up when digital audio got here as regards slower streams? Let's call it 'data reduction' or 'bit reduction', as opposed to compression. Digital compression connotes the ability to get it all back, as in the many file compression schemes we see. Reduced data isn't recoverable, and it's this characteristic which leads to 'dueling CODECs' and bad audio.
 
musiconradio.com said:
Okay,

So HD is the the cards in the future I wanna keep my dynamax console. Is there a way to feed my analog console into a digital converter. Something cost effective.


Is anyone doing this now. I think the Key for small stations is to make the HD conversion cost effective. I know being able to save analog console would be nice.


What other currently operating analog studio/ processing parts can be used in the Digital domain. (once again with a converter) Yes I know it is not digital, but It would allow smaller stations to at least light up those HD receivers.
Click to expand...

Behringer makes a A/D convertor for cheap:
http://www.behringer.com/SRC2496/index.cfm?lang=ENG
 
Harris sells a cheap ($250) a to d and d to a converter that amkes your left and right AES EBU. On the amrket several years, forget the name. Single rack space unit.
 
In getting ready for Digital HD Radio, we started dubbing our music in uncompressed several years ago and we are also going back and redubbing the older stuff as well to uncompressed. We are running a 1TB server with mirrored drives, processors, and power supplies. (Maestro) We have also switched to Digital STL systems on all of our stations.
 
Now, see, I would just run all analogue through the STL and wait until it gets to the transmitter to go digital. Running a digital STL while doing HD just adds more opportunity for compression losses and artifacts.
 
The Harris "Level Devil" offers low latency...
 
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