I want to clear up an issue about network o&os

[bpatrick]

Below is a thread about ABC's Saturday-morning
schedule of 1991-92 which expresses surprise
that WABC sometimes carried a couple of the
cartoon shows on Sunday morning. In the past,
we have dealt ad nauseum with the issue of
KOVR/13 Sacramento, a CBS o&o, not carrying
Guiding Light.

An o&o does not have to carry all the network
shows, nor does it have to carry them in pattern.
WTVD/11 Raleigh/Durham, an ABC o&o, never carried
Ryan's Hope, although WRAL/5 did when it was the
ABC affiliate in the Triangle. (I seem to recall
that WPVI/6 Philadelphia either pre-empted it or
carried it at 11:30 AM instead of noon.) WTVD
also, until the last year or so, carried Soul Train
on Saturdays at noon, with the ABC kids' shows on at
that time airing 7-8 AM on Saturdays.

WNCN/17, the Triangle's NBC o&o, carried Days Of Our
Lives and Passions in the morning until about a year
ago, when it began airing Days in pattern at 1 PM;
both soaps now air in pattern. NBC o&os KXAS/5 Dallas/
Ft. Worth and WVTM/13 Birmingham carry Days at 1 PM
(CT), followed by Passions at 2, meaning a one-hour
delay for both shows.

And we all know that six CBS o&os carried Guiding Light
on a "day-behind" basis until CBS initiated the alternate
10 AM (ET) feed.

So don't be shocked when you hear that an o&o is delaying
or pre-empting a network show. It doesn't happen often,
but it does happen.

 

[oldiesfan]

> NBC o&os KXAS/5 Dallas/Ft. Worth and WVTM/13
> Birmingham carry Days at 1 PM (CT), followed
> by Passions at 2, meaning a one-hour delay
> for both shows.

I would have thought the "in pattern" schedule
for both soaps is 1-3pm in all four time zones,
but there are several variations I've found in
spot-checking just a few CT zone NBC stations.

O&O WMAQ-TV Chicago also runs them 1-3pm CT.
WTMJ-TV Milwaukee runs them in order 12-2pm,
as does KSHB-TV Kansas City. Meanwhile,
KSDK-TV St. Louis runs the soaps 1-3pm but
in reverse order.

NBC does have a sat channel that they use to
feed the Today Show 7-10am CT which could be
used to feed the soaps in pattern 1-3pm CT
and the affils also have the ET and MT sat
channels to play with where they could likely
do any of the above scenarios without having
to delay anything themselves.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by oldiesfan on 12/30/05 04:20 AM.</FONT></P>

 

[Markd]

> Below is a thread about ABC's Saturday-morning
> schedule of 1991-92 which expresses surprise
> that WABC sometimes carried a couple of the
> cartoon shows on Sunday morning.

Yes WABC TV only sometimes carried the Saturday Noon Hour of kids shows Sunday mornings and later in the decade Sunday afternoons. This would be only on weeks ABC had no college football game but WABC TV opted to carry a syndicated college football game.

> In the past,
> we have dealt ad nauseum with the issue of
> KOVR/13 Sacramento, a CBS o&o, not carrying
> Guiding Light.

This seemed to be due to the fact CBS recently in the past year acquired KOVR and inherited Sinclair contracts. Part of this also is because the fate of Guiding Light has not been determined by the netwoek. CBS does not want to go through the trouble of inserting Guiding Light at 2 PM on KOVR this past fall only for it to be canceled in the summer disrupting the 2 PM hour even more.

MY QUESTION...WHY NOT RUN IT AT 2 AM ON OVERNIGHTS???? Less disruptive...and it would not throw anyone off.

I do think if Guiding Light were to be canceled that CBS would make Bold & Beautiful an hour and only give back 30 minutes to the affiliates. KOVR then would be forced to run Bold at 2 PM-3PM and would have to insert something at 11:30 after the news.

If Guiding Light and Bold were to swap times and Bold was to go to an hour and Guiding Light were to go to 30 minutes KOVR woulkd be in a dilemma as well. the Soaps without Guiding Light would end at 2:30 giving KOVR a half hour rather than an hour. They would NEVER preempt Bold because Bold does very well. Maybe this is what KOVR is waiting for.



> (I seem to recall that WPVI/6 Philadelphia either pre-empted it or
> carried it at 11:30 AM instead of noon.)

Actually WPVI TV preempted the 11 AM - Noon Hour into the early 1990's and only ran 30 minutes of the Home Show and Mike & Maty from the early to mid 90's.

 

[briancraig]

This may be true over the last 20 years, but I would bet every network show got cleared on the O & Os back in the old days.

Can anyone think of an example when the 3 nets owned only 5 stations each:

ABC
WABC--New York
KABC--Los Angeles
WLS--Chicago
KGO--San Francisco
WXYZ--Detroit

CBS
WCBS--New York
KNXT--Los Angeles
WBBM--Chicago
WCAU--Philadelphia
KMOX--St. Louis

NBC
WNBC--New York
KNBC--Los Angeles
WMAQ--Chicago
WRC--Washington
WKYC--Cleveland

I know KNBC during the summer aired the 12 noon Saturday cartoons on Sunday because the baseball game of the week started at 11 am in the Pacific Time Zone and often during the fall KABC would have to air part of the Saturday morning lineup at different times because of NCAA football, but they still cleared all the shows.

 

[bpatrick]

> This may be true over the last 20 years, but I would bet
> every network show got cleared on the O & Os back in the old
> days.
>
> Can anyone think of an example when the 3 nets owned only 5
> stations each:
>
> ABC
> WABC--New York
> KABC--Los Angeles
> WLS--Chicago
> KGO--San Francisco
> WXYZ--Detroit
>
> CBS
> WCBS--New York
> KNXT--Los Angeles
> WBBM--Chicago
> WCAU--Philadelphia
> KMOX--St. Louis
>
> NBC
> WNBC--New York
> KNBC--Los Angeles
> WMAQ--Chicago
> WRC--Washington
> WKYC--Cleveland
>
> I know KNBC during the summer aired the 12 noon Saturday
> cartoons on Sunday because the baseball game of the week
> started at 11 am in the Pacific Time Zone and often during
> the fall KABC would have to air part of the Saturday
> morning lineup at different times because of NCAA football,
> but they still cleared all the shows.
>
Offhand, only one. In the spring and summer of 1961 NBC had a
country-music show on Friday nights titled Five Star Jubilee.
According to Brooks and Marsh, the show was telecast from
Springfield, MO, and had five rotating stars: Snooky Lanson,
Tex Ritter, Jimmy Wakely, Carl Smith, and Rex Allen. The
show was not carried in New York because of its primarily
rural appeal.