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iboc crud

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Talked with a long-time KDKA listener today and was informed that he cannot listen to the station after 5PM because of the WBZ iboc interference. Problem is, he lives in Crafton.....less than 4 miles from downtown Pittsburgh.

I'm sure KD is hurting WBZ and WINS as well.

Let's hope that someone at CBS (with some sense) will order the shut-off of this worthless attempt at digital broadcasting.
 
had to travel to greensburg-latrobe at nights KDKA hard to receive

It's interesting that you mention this. I had to drive to latrobe two weeks ago at night and riding in a newer vehicle 2006 (factory radio). I had difficulty receiving kdka in greensburg and by the time I got to latrobe. local stations sounded fine in latrobe. kdka was hard to get if not impossible. I read about this but never experienced it before.
 
Up here in Rochester, NY we at 1040 WYSL have been devastated by WBZ's upper sideband IBOC noise for over two years. When there's snow cover on a clear winter night, WBZ's skywave adjacent-channel crap invades a WYSL signal exceeding 50 mV/m. It kills a local signal more than three times our NIF contour.

We've submitted multiple complaints to the FCC, complete with scores of field strength readings, audio recordings and sworn statements from two consulting engineers with impeccable credentials.

The Commission has ignored them. I've repeatedly e-mailed Bureau Chief Doyle and asked him to get the Enforcement Bureau to take action. He suggested "I put something in writing." I e-mailed him back and asked him what his staff has done with the formal complaints. There has been no response.

We've had several communications with CBS people who have told us, off the record, they are similarly flabbergasted that the company would trash its co-owned signal for AM IBOC, a system which has a national audience you could tabulate via a show of hands. It's insanity.
 
That situation with the 1040 station is inexcusible!!!! There was a time, not too long ago, when WBZ would be fined for what they are doing. It is time for the President to appoint a new FCC Chairperson. Someone who knows the rules and is willing to put some muscle behind them.

Digital AM is worse than the Motorola AM Stereo System. The 17 people in Southwestern Pennsylvania who have digital radios can listen to KDKA on the CBS FM station's HD3 channels. There is no reason at all for KD to have IBOC.

Not only is this WBZ interference costing the station listeners, it is or soon will cost them revenue.

Enough is enough!!!!
 
Maybe we could get a float in a parade....say, the upcoming Rose Bowl parade, as a message to ibiquity.

A giant fork stuck into something representing AM-HD, so they'll know it's done.

The music of course, would switch back and forth between glaringly bright vs unintelligibly dull,
with 400 milliseconds mismatch between to two.

The man from Crafton should really go add his commentary to the public file at KDKA.
Makes no real difference these days, but at least it IS an official entry of disapproval from an actual listener.
 
I recently had a chat with my "Deep Throat" at iBiquity, and it sounds like basically they are on death watch.
Huge layoffs, sounds like nobody but the CEO, receptionist and janitor left in the building. So the problem
may take care of itself.

I'm sure the people who used to run jamming stations in the U.S.S.R are kicking themselves for not thinking of it.
 
This is encouraging news. Merry Christmas to all!

I had similarly heard that out there in actual broadcaster-land, the only people left who are squeezing for IBOC
are a handful of HD Alliance blowhard-diehards (read: Glynn Walden et al) and NPR. The latter party likes HD because it neatly solves their problem of where to put perennial niche formats like classical and jazz that appeal to 1000 donor/listeners per market, while keeping their mainstream news and talk on main channels. Essentially pubcasters get additional low-cost radio channels (much cheaper than buying smaller stations) via multicasting on HD subs, all at taxpayer expense (the feds pay for all the HD hardware through grants.) What's not to like?

But for the rest of us - who have to stay on top of the audience pig-pile and pay for it by selling spots based on Arbitron - HD Radio is a distracting, interfering, expensive, no-win maintenance hog. Something 12 listeners and zero advertisers care about.
 
I'm about 20 miles from the KDKA transmitter, and IBOC wreaks havoc with them at night. Similarly, the sidebands
from the IBOC on 780 Chicago impact our 770 during critical hours.

Plus, there's the problem of analog fidelity (and artifacts), both of which are obvious on the high-quality receiver I
use.

IMHO, the sooner they turn off IBOC, the better.

C.
 
I have much less of a problem with it on FM. I can't detect anything noticeable except it makes the scan function
on my car radio virtually useless. It pretty much destroys everything on AM. Don't know why any station would want
that tinny, scratchy audio that is heard by 98.9% of their listeners using analog receivers.
 
WINS, KDKA and WBZ are usually a cluster---- here in MA, they take turns wiping each other out although KDKA is usually wiped out by both of the others. WBZ hashes all over upstate NY and it sounds like krap in analog here and fades about 40 miles from the transmitter since they installed the hash machine, it hardly came in at all in iblock and sounded really bad when it did. My iboc radio hasn't even been turned on now for at least three months.
 
I can normally get The Fan, WLS and WGN from the airport west via skywave, but not KD. Heading east I lose them on my factory installed radio around Blairsville. Gone are the days when you could hear a Pirate game in Salt Lake City or Florida. Then again that's what satellite radio and the Internet are for these days.
 
Now wait a minute, Snafu.

I remember back in the 1980s trying to pick up the Pirates on KDKA from my grandparents home south of Orlando on a GE Super Radio, which is designed to pick up such signals.

I could not pick up the station.

I do remember listening to KDKA at 6 a.m. (still dark) driving into Jacksonville in 1992, and Ross Guidotti speaks of the time he was able to pick up KDKA overseas when he was fighting in the Gulf War, but I'm not sure KDKA could ever be consistently heard in most of Florida, let alone Salt Lake City.
 
I knew a guy who flew as the radio man on a B-17 during WWII. He said he could regularly pick up KDKA high over England,
which he would pipe in to entertain the crew as they headed off for Germany. Nowdays I struggle to pick them up in
Central Ohio, or Somerset County.
 
In the mid-90's I picked up KD a few times in FL. Once was diving down I-75 between Gainesville and Ocala at sunset (then at sunset a pirate operation with 1 million watts from the Turks and Caicos islands called "Carribean Christian Radio" came on and blew them away.

Also remember sitting in the parking lot at a TGI Fridays in Jacksonville around 7:30 one fall evening and hearing Thor Tolo ask a caller, "What would Mike Tomczak be bring to the offense that Kordell Stewart does not?"... I almost called and asked ihim if he actually watched the games...

Now the former daytimer on 1010 in Jax has upgraded to 50kw days/10kw nights, so no chance.
 
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