Ideas for Radio Stations w/o Major Format Flips

[gamefreak]

94.9 To continue broadening the 80's thru now playlist. Primarily by adding a wider variety of 80's including a good deal of the New Wave/ New Romanatic stuff. Artists such as Hall and Oates, Fun Pop Music such as The Go-Go's, Breakfast Club and Pretty in Pink soundtrack. As well as broadening the playlist to add more acoustic/AAA fare. While still maintaining a listen at work feel. Then by removing Deliah's show. Other artist to include- Suzanne Vega, R.E.M, New Order (Elegria is perfect for the format.), Don Henely, Pointer Sisters, Simple Minds and even some Madonna. I like the new transitation to the format. This would be taking it a step further.

List of Easy Listening, Pop, Dance, R&B and other assorted 80's Music
http://members.tripod.com/john_larocque/80.html

97.9 Active Rock with lots of New Rock, Not Recurrents and Burnt-To-Crisp AOR.
98.7 Sounds good, Can't say how long Play would last.
100.7 Nice Mix of Music
101.5 I don't listen so I can't say, Except that WFLZ has far more variety. Maybe why Hot hasn't surpassed FLZ yet.
102.5 Is this a Active Rock or Classic Rock. Can Cox make up their mind
104.7 Could branch out into some 50's and 60's tunes
105.5 Add personalities

 

[distantfm]

102.5 isnt rock at all in my book......sounds like a lotta talk to me. Thats a disappointment.

Totally disagree w suggestions for 98 rock. Good just where they are. Soon 102.5 might just be even more blah blah blah......and not even be a ''musical factor'' for 98 rock......and at that point, just as now.....their rock mix will be appropriate

I will continue to say, until the world as we know it ends.....that cox should do something different with the 105.5 signal

If.....by chance that i still do NOT see happening.....98 rock becomes WFLA (an atrocity if it should happen) then cox should fire up 105.5 as an active rock right away......97.1 can be the ''dove''

and whats next for 98.7 ?........is there not an opening for a traditional classic rock to take on the eagle ?.....take a piece of that pie

seems like it

Rob

 

[DToTheJ]

@Gamefreak: Looks like all your suggestion for 94.9 is missing is a new name - "The Point"!

...98 rock becomes WFLA (an atrocity if it should happen)...

Yeah, it's such an atrocity, only dozens of markets are simulcasting their AM news/talk/sports stations on FM...

 

[MsMusicRadio]

If cox really ramped up WWRM, that could cause a problem with the alleged core audience like soccer moms, hockey moms, and women who appear in water cooler commercials. However, the music on WDUV was first aired on stations that had personality like Lite FM in NYC and Lite 98 in Richmond. I think WDUV need people more than WSUN cause their listeners are either riding bicycles backward on Fletcher or reading Saul Alinsky in Hookah Bars behind strip malls on Fowler

 

[gamefreak]

The difference between my idea and The Point is that I added Pop Artists. Would you even catch The Point playing The Go-Go's, Hall and Oates, Sexual Healing by Marvin Gaye, Pointer Sisters and other such artists.

Of course the New Wave Artists would be all over the Point though.

Did anybody happen to go through the link on Top 40 80's Music.

Yes, I do however see the point with messing with the Soft and Contemporary approach. However would adding more Modern Acoustic/ AAA and broadening really make the station sound any worse. Plus a lot of 80's Top 40 could blend in well with the format. As long as its not Hair Metal, Heavier Punk Rock and the louder side of Alternative.

 

[gamefreak]

Couldn't Magic's at work audience also listen to WDUV. The Dove is way softer than Magic in its current form anyways.

I've been listening to Magic for the past few days and the station doesn't even advertise themselves as a at work station. Is Cox already giving up on that At-Work connection and going a more Hot AC route.

 

[Obtuse1]

102.5 isnt rock at all in my book......sounds like a lotta talk to me. Thats a disappointment.

Totally disagree w suggestions for 98 rock. Good just where they are. Soon 102.5 might just be even more blah blah blah......and not even be a ''musical factor'' for 98 rock......and at that point, just as now.....their rock mix will be appropriate

I will continue to say, until the world as we know it ends.....that cox should do something different with the 105.5 signal

If.....by chance that i still do NOT see happening.....98 rock becomes WFLA (an atrocity if it should happen) then cox should fire up 105.5 as an active rock right away......97.1 can be the ''dove''

and whats next for 98.7 ?........is there not an opening for a traditional classic rock to take on the eagle ?.....take a piece of that pie

seems like it

Rob

In the absence of 98 Rock, if Cox were going to do Active Rock, they'd simply tweak "The Bone" in that direction. With the plug being pulled on Active Rock stations left and right these days (something Cox has a good deal of experience with), 98 Rock struggling, and the rock audience shrinking, it probably wouldn't happen....not enough upside. More likely the 97X/Bone combo would remain intact as is.

In the past I would have suggested moving 97X to a bigger stick and finally putting 98 Rock out of it's misery. Cox's best course of action now is to simply wait for CC to do it for them (which I suspect is what's happening).

If WFLA-FM isn't in the cards...a transition to Classic Rock at WXTB (heck their playlist is at least 50% there anyhow) to take on Eagle might not be a bad idea. Would probably draw listeners from The Bone as well, especially if they move in a "more talk" direction. The addition of more "classic" titles did seem to help 97.9 post-BTLS. Why not just go all the way and be done with it?

As for 98.7...rock-leaning variety hits (Jack). As long as they are light on 70's-early 80's pop, they could coexist with WRBQ IMHO.

 

[gamefreak]

Maybe I am asking for Cox to add those particular artists because its the music I grew up with. Not to mention I'm not a big fan of the music that's CHR today. I know that Cox is in the business and cares for what makes them the most money on their respective stations. If that means keeping the At-Work-Audience with Magic that's what it means. I already know Cox wouldn't try this. Everything is just hypothetical.

Heard some R.E.M on WMNF the other day though. Actually put a smile on my face to hear R.E.M's music on the radio again.

 

[gamefreak]

If cox really ramped up WWRM, that could cause a problem with the alleged core audience like soccer moms, hockey moms, and women who appear in water cooler commercials. However, the music on WDUV was first aired on stations that had personality like Lite FM in NYC and Lite 98 in Richmond. I think WDUV need people more than WSUN cause their listeners are either riding bicycles backward on Fletcher or reading Saul Alinsky in Hookah Bars behind strip malls on Fowler

So 97X listeners sit around in bars that serve flavored tobacco and read about a 20th century community organizer. Interesting input.

My belief is that all stations should be well staffed. Regardless if the format or the people listening.

The reason I think stations like WDUV and WXGL have no personality is because older people already listen to radio by default. However with stations like 97x and Hot 101.5 Cox needs some incentive to get the younger crowd listening. If the station was nothing but a Jukebox the younger crowd will just listen to an IPOD, go on Youtube or listen to music online on Pandora. If they could hear music and personalities like Fisher Boy, Phoebe or Dick Raynes they may listen.

 

[gamefreak]

Or is a Hookah Bar a device for flavored tobacco.

 

[MsMusicRadio]

I don't know anything about Hookah Bars. I read Alinsky in Coffee houses where they wore berets and played bongos. People were cats instead of dudes

 

[badjef]

I don't know anything about Hookah Bars. I read Alinsky in Coffee houses where they wore berets and played bongos. People were cats instead of dudes

Books instead of nooks, pops instead of java, I dig.
A simpler time...

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[MsMusicRadio]

Wasn't simpler. We had the Cold War, sputnik, Jerry Lee Lewis, JFK blown away, goatees, black turtlenecks, the Rat Pack, banging shoes at the UN, the Edsel, and the concept time for a future Billy Joel song to get into the short rotations of Classic Hits stations all over America in 2012

 

[gamefreak]

Wasn't simpler. We had the Cold War, sputnik, Jerry Lee Lewis, JFK blown away, goatees, black turtlenecks, the Rat Pack, banging shoes at the UN, the Edsel, and the concept time for a future Billy Joel song to get into the short rotations of Classic Hits stations all over America in 2012

We Didn't Start The Fire was 1# on the billboard charts the week I was born back in '89.

 

[scottsvb5]

102.5 isnt rock at all in my book......sounds like a lotta talk to me. Thats a disappointment.

Totally disagree w suggestions for 98 rock. Good just where they are. Soon 102.5 might just be even more blah blah blah......and not even be a ''musical factor'' for 98 rock......and at that point, just as now.....their rock mix will be appropriate

I will continue to say, until the world as we know it ends.....that cox should do something different with the 105.5 signal

If.....by chance that i still do NOT see happening.....98 rock becomes WFLA (an atrocity if it should happen) then cox should fire up 105.5 as an active rock right away......97.1 can be the ''dove''

and whats next for 98.7 ?........is there not an opening for a traditional classic rock to take on the eagle ?.....take a piece of that pie

seems like it

Rob

In the absence of 98 Rock, if Cox were going to do Active Rock, they'd simply tweak "The Bone" in that direction. With the plug being pulled on Active Rock stations left and right these days (something Cox has a good deal of experience with), 98 Rock struggling, and the rock audience shrinking, it probably wouldn't happen....not enough upside. More likely the 97X/Bone combo would remain intact as is.

In the past I would have suggested moving 97X to a bigger stick and finally putting 98 Rock out of it's misery. Cox's best course of action now is to simply wait for CC to do it for them (which I suspect is what's happening).

If WFLA-FM isn't in the cards...a transition to Classic Rock at WXTB (heck their playlist is at least 50% there anyhow) to take on Eagle might not be a bad idea. Would probably draw listeners from The Bone as well, especially if they move in a "more talk" direction. The addition of more "classic" titles did seem to help 97.9 post-BTLS. Why not just go all the way and be done with it?

As for 98.7...rock-leaning variety hits (Jack). As long as they are light on 70's-early 80's pop, they could coexist with WRBQ IMHO.

Once again Obtuse your totally wrong in your loving Alt Rock vs Active Rock. Although some active rock stations are fading.. they had horrible PD's who played recurrents or AOR of years past and not enough New Rock. Alt Rock has been gone for years.. Rise against is the only thing that has come along in the past 7 years since Linkin Park. Alt ratings through out the country are near or at bottom.. and you say 97X going to a bigger stick and putting away 98Rock? That will never happen unless they flip to a New Active Rock that outplays 98Rock with New Music from the Active Rock top 25 instead of 98Rock playing 1-2 songs per hour that is somewhat new cause they lag 2-3 months behind playing recurrents. I agree with gamefreak here most of what he said and distinctfm (sorry if I got names spelled wrong) 97X is more in the dump than 98rock... they need to go harder and out play new music over 98rock.. cause that's what kids want to hear.. New Music! 102.5 should mix in alot of the hairbands/metal from 80s-early 90s along with the best songs of the 90s-2010. They need to get rid of the earlier 80s and 70s and some of the 90s over played stuff 98rock still plays to death. Play recognizable music that isn't played as much anymore or at all anywhere.. that's what makes the station good to hear.. old top 20 hits that you just dont hear anymore on the radio but are recognizable.

 

[scottsvb5]

WSUN-FM 2.0 326,700 2.2 308,700 1.8 280,200 Alternative Cox

Drop Drop Drop! Kill the Station already! Or Flip it!

 

[MsMusicRadio]

Flip 97.1 to AAA, Adult Hits, or a Jack type of thing. They could bring back the Point or do Urban AC.

 

[badjef]

Flip 97.1 to AAA, Adult Hits, or a Jack type of thing. They could bring back the Point or do Urban AC.

Before this one gets too out of hand.

97.1 gets some good numbers considering the inferior signal.

I probably wouldn't change it at all, if I were to rely on numbers alone.

And if you want "The Point" back, get an HD radio. 101.5 hd-2 is receivable from your location.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[DennisSmithFLA]

And if you want "The Point" back, get an HD radio. 101.5 hd-2 is receivable from your location.

they tag themselves as "Star 101-5" sounds like the old Star 95.7 too

 

[DennisSmithFLA]

And if you want "The Point" back, get an HD radio. 101.5 hd-2 is receivable from your location.

they tag themselves as "Star 101-5" sounds like the old Star 95.7 too

todays new music alternative, just like Star 95.7