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IDing NOAA TIS stations?

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BobOnTheJob

Anyone know a listing of the TIS stations that relay NOAA weather radio? They don't seem to identify themselves as regular TIS stations do.
 
Doggone---I was gonna send a link of all the NOAA stations, but I know what you are saying now. We have a couple of those TIS's on AM here in south Florida. You are right, they hardly ever identify the actual station (I myself have yet to hear a cut-in)---on top of that, if they are ID'ing as "162.55 MHz" when it's really 1690 kHz, I wonder if there are---ahem---illegalities on the part of the TIS.

cd
 
The NOAA stations do ID but not on a regualr basis. Go to any of the NOAA weather web sites and you can get a link to all of the stations. But since you can tell by the weather the location, and you know the frequency you are listening on, it should be fairly easy to ID the TIS from the FCC data base.
 
I think some of the NWR stations also say "also rebroadcasting on AM radio, [insert frequency here]" on their IDs. I did hear that on an NWR station stream...
 
cd637299 said:
Doggone---I was gonna send a link of all the NOAA stations, but I know what you are saying now. We have a couple of those TIS's on AM here in south Florida. You are right, they hardly ever identify the actual station (I myself have yet to hear a cut-in)---on top of that, if they are ID'ing as "162.55 MHz" when it's really 1690 kHz, I wonder if there are---ahem---illegalities on the part of the TIS.
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The FCC released a NPRM on TIS stations last week -- I may not be reading it properly but it sure looks like they're saying it's not legal for a TIS to relay a NOAA station, and that a TIS in California received a Notice of Violation for doing so...

I'm just about certain it's *not* illegal for a TIS to ID as "162.55MHz". Heck, it's legal for a *broadcast* station to ID as "162.55 MHz" as long as they don't put the frequency between the calls and the city.
 
w9wi said:
cd637299 said:
Doggone---I was gonna send a link of all the NOAA stations, but I know what you are saying now. We have a couple of those TIS's on AM here in south Florida. You are right, they hardly ever identify the actual station (I myself have yet to hear a cut-in)---on top of that, if they are ID'ing as "162.55 MHz" when it's really 1690 kHz, I wonder if there are---ahem---illegalities on the part of the TIS.
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The FCC released a NPRM on TIS stations last week -- I may not be reading it properly but it sure looks like they're saying it's not legal for a TIS to relay a NOAA station, and that a TIS in California received a Notice of Violation for doing so...

I'm just about certain it's *not* illegal for a TIS to ID as "162.55MHz". Heck, it's legal for a *broadcast* station to ID as "162.55 MHz" as long as they don't put the frequency between the calls and the city.
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This could be interesting. When I have the opportunity, I might drive around to where the TIS's involved are more clear---if they are still relaying NOAA. As far as I know, it seems that they are just "parking" NOAA until whatever city it serves has regular programming.

cd
 
There's a TIS on 1610 for Winchester and Clark County, Kentucky which is just each of Lexington. They have a mix of local event information and NOAA weather rebroadcasts. I've heard another one on 1620, but much its weaker here, following the same format of local events and rebroadcast WX. I have not definitely pinpointed it...although I think the one on 1620 is in the Estill County and Irvine areas of KY.
 
w9wi said:
The FCC released a NPRM on TIS stations last week
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Do you have a link to that? It didn't show up in the Daily Digest.
 
Thanks for the link. Somehow I completely missed the Digest entry.

There are some good points being discussed and I'll concede that maybe this is a good time for a reassessment of TIS. In regard to NOAA transmissions I'm not sure I totally agree with this restriction. In fact, I'd think that allowing TIS stations to rebroadcast official weather warnings would be in the public interest.
 
jd said:
There are some good points being discussed and I'll concede that maybe this is a good time for a reassessment of TIS. In regard to NOAA transmissions I'm not sure I totally agree with this restriction. In fact, I'd think that allowing TIS stations to rebroadcast official weather warnings would be in the public interest.
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I think the Commission's point is that this radio service was intended to provide information to travelers, and they were seeing many of these stations branching out into programming that didn't address that purpose.

Y'know, it brings up an interesting point: wouldn't it make a fair amount of sense to have NOAA receivers built in to cars? (I can tell you the first frequencies stored in the memory of my mobile ham rig are the NOAA channels...) To my knowledge no carmaker offers it...
 
I remember there was a full power FM station in Connecticut that rebroadcasted NOAA Weather Radio for a year. It showed up in the ratings during one snowy month.
 
Can anyone find the call sign of 530 in Champaign,IL? It runs NOAA 24/7 with no ID's.
 
Arcola is on the air & doesn't get out well. The FCC Query that was passed along (thanks K6JHU) revealed one in Urbana (within a very short distance of Champaign)...only catch is that it's license expired in 2003! Apparently little things like licenses aren't necessary to continue operating a TIS with illegal programming. And all of this within 150 miles of the FCC Field Office near Chicago. Hard to ID something that isn't licensed.

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=1293710&__newWindow=false
 
BobOnTheJob said:
Hard to ID something that isn't licensed.
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It sure is, and I've seen it happen elsewhere. As long as we're on the subject, what's the highest powered TIS in the country? The one at D/FW Airport runs 60 watts on 1680; they said it was needed because of the size of the facility. Maybe there are others that run a lot more than 10 watts.
 
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