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joebenjamin
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It's a longshot,but 1050 country could work--1050's signal even goes into PA!!!!
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> It's a longshot,but 1050 country could work--1050's signal
> even goes into PA!!!!
>
The trades have roported that the ESPN and Radio Disney stations would not be sold because they are part of a multi-point marketing effort by these Disney divisions.
And, whether 1050 gets into PA, no part of PA is in the NY ratings metro, so it does not matter.
The real issue is whether any under-65 music format can work on AM.
> even goes into PA!!!!
>
The trades have roported that the ESPN and Radio Disney stations would not be sold because they are part of a multi-point marketing effort by these Disney divisions.
And, whether 1050 gets into PA, no part of PA is in the NY ratings metro, so it does not matter.
The real issue is whether any under-65 music format can work on AM.
> It's a longshot,but 1050 country could work--1050's signal
> even goes into PA!!!!
>
JoeBenjamin:
*IF* Disney sells WEPN (ESPN Radio) I don't see it as an impossibility. And since no FM station wants Country, I think it's more likely that Country will return to AM.
Thanks,
Kevin L.Sealy<P ID="signature">______________
Kevin L. Sealy</P>
> even goes into PA!!!!
>
JoeBenjamin:
*IF* Disney sells WEPN (ESPN Radio) I don't see it as an impossibility. And since no FM station wants Country, I think it's more likely that Country will return to AM.
Thanks,
Kevin L.Sealy<P ID="signature">______________
Kevin L. Sealy</P>
D
DiamondJoe
Guest
That's a great pipedream... Notice that music radio on AM in large markets is barely significant (outside of Radio Disney). Still, the WHN calls can't be recovered, and the WWHN calls are taken, so it won't be "reincarnated" if the format indeed reappears on that frequency. And I emphasize "if".<P ID="signature">______________
New York City Radio and TV</P>
New York City Radio and TV</P>
> Still, the WHN calls can't be recovered, and the
> WWHN calls are taken, so it won't be "reincarnated" if the
> format indeed reappears on that frequency.
Although, the FCC did allow KKHJ 930 in Los Angeles to return to it's original KHJ callsign. So bringing the WHN call letters back to life is not all out of the question. If the new 1050 had a good lawyer, and used KHJ as a precedent, they may be able to get such calls back.
> WWHN calls are taken, so it won't be "reincarnated" if the
> format indeed reappears on that frequency.
Although, the FCC did allow KKHJ 930 in Los Angeles to return to it's original KHJ callsign. So bringing the WHN call letters back to life is not all out of the question. If the new 1050 had a good lawyer, and used KHJ as a precedent, they may be able to get such calls back.
> > Still, the WHN calls can't be recovered, and the
> > WWHN calls are taken, so it won't be "reincarnated" if the
>
> > format indeed reappears on that frequency.
>
> Although, the FCC did allow KKHJ 930 in Los Angeles to
> return to it's original KHJ callsign. So bringing the WHN
> call letters back to life is not all out of the question. If
> the new 1050 had a good lawyer, and used KHJ as a precedent,
> they may be able to get such calls back.
>
KKHJ "claimed" that "KK" when said in Spanish was "caca" and, thus, a dirty word. Based on that (even if they never said KKHJ in Spanish), the FCc allowed the change back to the old calls.
Otherwise, the rule is that only the original licencee who changed away from 3-letter calls can ask for them back. If the station has changed ownership, it can not be done.
> > WWHN calls are taken, so it won't be "reincarnated" if the
>
> > format indeed reappears on that frequency.
>
> Although, the FCC did allow KKHJ 930 in Los Angeles to
> return to it's original KHJ callsign. So bringing the WHN
> call letters back to life is not all out of the question. If
> the new 1050 had a good lawyer, and used KHJ as a precedent,
> they may be able to get such calls back.
>
KKHJ "claimed" that "KK" when said in Spanish was "caca" and, thus, a dirty word. Based on that (even if they never said KKHJ in Spanish), the FCc allowed the change back to the old calls.
Otherwise, the rule is that only the original licencee who changed away from 3-letter calls can ask for them back. If the station has changed ownership, it can not be done.
> Otherwise, the rule is that only the original licencee who
> changed away from 3-letter calls can ask for them back. If
> the station has changed ownership, it can not be done...>
It doesn't really matter...they could call themselves "1050 WHN" like the old days and bury some calls in the ID...WHNL is open for one. WWRC in D.C. for an example continued to use "WRC" for years after the calls went to the tv station. (Not that anyone will bring back country to 1050 WHN, as we all know.)
Lee Arnold still stands as one of the best country jocks ever.
> changed away from 3-letter calls can ask for them back. If
> the station has changed ownership, it can not be done...>
It doesn't really matter...they could call themselves "1050 WHN" like the old days and bury some calls in the ID...WHNL is open for one. WWRC in D.C. for an example continued to use "WRC" for years after the calls went to the tv station. (Not that anyone will bring back country to 1050 WHN, as we all know.)
Lee Arnold still stands as one of the best country jocks ever.
> KKHJ "claimed" that "KK" when said in Spanish was "caca"
> and, thus, a dirty word. Based on that (even if they never
> said KKHJ in Spanish), the FCc allowed the change back to
> the old calls.
>
> Otherwise, the rule is that only the original licencee who
> changed away from 3-letter calls can ask for them back. If
> the station has changed ownership, it can not be done.
But I thought that all legal identification on all US-licensed stations is to be in English? So, KKHJ didn't really have a case, did they?
Anyhow, as I had said, I'd think that a good lawyer could use the KKHJ/KHJ case in Los Angeles as a precedent to a call change on 1050 to WHN. Otherwise, wouldn't KHJ be getting preferential treatment from the FCC?
But as another poster said, call letters alone would not disturb a country station from forming on 1050AM.
> and, thus, a dirty word. Based on that (even if they never
> said KKHJ in Spanish), the FCc allowed the change back to
> the old calls.
>
> Otherwise, the rule is that only the original licencee who
> changed away from 3-letter calls can ask for them back. If
> the station has changed ownership, it can not be done.
But I thought that all legal identification on all US-licensed stations is to be in English? So, KKHJ didn't really have a case, did they?
Anyhow, as I had said, I'd think that a good lawyer could use the KKHJ/KHJ case in Los Angeles as a precedent to a call change on 1050 to WHN. Otherwise, wouldn't KHJ be getting preferential treatment from the FCC?
But as another poster said, call letters alone would not disturb a country station from forming on 1050AM.
> > KKHJ "claimed" that "KK" when said in Spanish was "caca"
> > and, thus, a dirty word. Based on that (even if they never
>
> > said KKHJ in Spanish), the FCc allowed the change back to
> > the old calls.
> >
> > Otherwise, the rule is that only the original licencee who
>
> > changed away from 3-letter calls can ask for them back. If
>
> > the station has changed ownership, it can not be done.
>
> But I thought that all legal identification on all
> US-licensed stations is to be in English? So, KKHJ didn't
> really have a case, did they?
No. But the FCC, I guess, thought they use dthe calls in Psanish programming. By the way, the FCC allows Spanish station to ID in Spsnish, as many do now.
>
> Anyhow, as I had said, I'd think that a good lawyer could
> use the KKHJ/KHJ case in Los Angeles as a precedent to a
> call change on 1050 to WHN. Otherwise, wouldn't KHJ be
> getting preferential treatment from the FCC?
KHJ got this done only because they brought up a special situation that involved profanity.
> > and, thus, a dirty word. Based on that (even if they never
>
> > said KKHJ in Spanish), the FCc allowed the change back to
> > the old calls.
> >
> > Otherwise, the rule is that only the original licencee who
>
> > changed away from 3-letter calls can ask for them back. If
>
> > the station has changed ownership, it can not be done.
>
> But I thought that all legal identification on all
> US-licensed stations is to be in English? So, KKHJ didn't
> really have a case, did they?
No. But the FCC, I guess, thought they use dthe calls in Psanish programming. By the way, the FCC allows Spanish station to ID in Spsnish, as many do now.
>
> Anyhow, as I had said, I'd think that a good lawyer could
> use the KKHJ/KHJ case in Los Angeles as a precedent to a
> call change on 1050 to WHN. Otherwise, wouldn't KHJ be
> getting preferential treatment from the FCC?
KHJ got this done only because they brought up a special situation that involved profanity.
> The real issue is whether any under-65 music format can work
> on AM.
>
Oldies?? That's anywhere between 25-54 and 35-64, depending on playlist selections and jock presentation.
> on AM.
>
Oldies?? That's anywhere between 25-54 and 35-64, depending on playlist selections and jock presentation.
> > The real issue is whether any under-65 music format can
> work
> > on AM.
> >
> Oldies?? That's anywhere between 25-54 and 35-64, depending
> on playlist selections and jock presentation.
I don't think anyone under 60 or 65 would listen much to AM music quality.
> work
> > on AM.
> >
> Oldies?? That's anywhere between 25-54 and 35-64, depending
> on playlist selections and jock presentation.
I don't think anyone under 60 or 65 would listen much to AM music quality.
Re: IF DISNEY SELLS 1050--WHN CALL SIGN
> > if the new 1050 had a good lawyer, and used KHJ as a
> precedent,
> > they may be able to get such calls back.
> >
>
> KKHJ "claimed" that "KK" when said in Spanish was "caca"
> and, thus, a dirty word. Based on that (even if they never
> said KKHJ in Spanish), the FCc allowed the change back to
> the old calls.
>
> Otherwise, the rule is that only the original licencee who
> changed away from 3-letter calls can ask for them back. If
> the station has changed ownership, it can not be done.
I wonder if the FCC has a soft spot for restoring three letter heritage calls to an original facility of radio that had a long market presence with them. I have this question too. Did 1050 AM in N.Y.C. have the same owner between about 1948 thru about 1962 during which WHN became WMGM then WHN again? I also believe such speculation as this is very unlikely but then again ...
> > if the new 1050 had a good lawyer, and used KHJ as a
> precedent,
> > they may be able to get such calls back.
> >
>
> KKHJ "claimed" that "KK" when said in Spanish was "caca"
> and, thus, a dirty word. Based on that (even if they never
> said KKHJ in Spanish), the FCc allowed the change back to
> the old calls.
>
> Otherwise, the rule is that only the original licencee who
> changed away from 3-letter calls can ask for them back. If
> the station has changed ownership, it can not be done.
I wonder if the FCC has a soft spot for restoring three letter heritage calls to an original facility of radio that had a long market presence with them. I have this question too. Did 1050 AM in N.Y.C. have the same owner between about 1948 thru about 1962 during which WHN became WMGM then WHN again? I also believe such speculation as this is very unlikely but then again ...
K
k2pg
Guest
Heritage callsigns
> Did 1050 AM in N.Y.C. have the same owner between
> about 1948 thru about 1962 during which WHN became WMGM then
> WHN again? I also believe such speculation as this is very
> unlikely but then again ...
>
No. The Loew's theatre chain owned WHN for many years before changing the call letters to WMGM. WMGM did not revert to its original WHN call letters until after George B. Storer bought the station in 1960.
The FCC regulations regarding the recovery of such callsigns were more lenient back then. In 1957, when Westinghouse bought WAAM (TV) in Baltimore, they were able to recover the call letters WJZ-TV, tracing their history to the founding of WJZ Radio by Westinghouse in Newark, NJ in 1921. That would not be permitted today, although there's nothing to stop someone from filing a Petition for Rulemaking with the FCC to relax the rules governing the recovery of heritage 3-letter callsigns and to revert to the policies that were in effect in the 1950s.
I would love to hear more of those heritage callsigns on the air. At one time, New York had four of them: WOR (710), WJZ (770), WHN (1050), and WOV (1280). Today, only WOR remains.
It is very unlikely that ABC / Disney would sell any of their AM O&Os in New York. Even though WEPN gets abysmal ratings, it is the 50,000 watt New York flagship of ESPN Radio, a network that has a lot of affiliates nationwide. Likewise, WQEW is the showcase and flagship station for the Radio Disney children's network and WABC is...well, WABC.
> Did 1050 AM in N.Y.C. have the same owner between
> about 1948 thru about 1962 during which WHN became WMGM then
> WHN again? I also believe such speculation as this is very
> unlikely but then again ...
>
No. The Loew's theatre chain owned WHN for many years before changing the call letters to WMGM. WMGM did not revert to its original WHN call letters until after George B. Storer bought the station in 1960.
The FCC regulations regarding the recovery of such callsigns were more lenient back then. In 1957, when Westinghouse bought WAAM (TV) in Baltimore, they were able to recover the call letters WJZ-TV, tracing their history to the founding of WJZ Radio by Westinghouse in Newark, NJ in 1921. That would not be permitted today, although there's nothing to stop someone from filing a Petition for Rulemaking with the FCC to relax the rules governing the recovery of heritage 3-letter callsigns and to revert to the policies that were in effect in the 1950s.
I would love to hear more of those heritage callsigns on the air. At one time, New York had four of them: WOR (710), WJZ (770), WHN (1050), and WOV (1280). Today, only WOR remains.
It is very unlikely that ABC / Disney would sell any of their AM O&Os in New York. Even though WEPN gets abysmal ratings, it is the 50,000 watt New York flagship of ESPN Radio, a network that has a lot of affiliates nationwide. Likewise, WQEW is the showcase and flagship station for the Radio Disney children's network and WABC is...well, WABC.
A
allisonmarie
Guest
Re: Heritage callsigns
> > Did 1050 AM in N.Y.C. have the same owner between
> > about 1948 thru about 1962 during which WHN became WMGM
> then
> > WHN again? I also believe such speculation as this is
> very
> > unlikely but then again ...
> >
>
> No. The Loew's theatre chain owned WHN for many years before
> changing the call letters to WMGM. WMGM did not revert to
> its original WHN call letters until after George B. Storer
> bought the station in 1960.
>
> The FCC regulations regarding the recovery of such callsigns
> were more lenient back then. In 1957, when Westinghouse
> bought WAAM (TV) in Baltimore, they were able to recover the
> call letters WJZ-TV, tracing their history to the founding
> of WJZ Radio by Westinghouse in Newark, NJ in 1921. That
> would not be permitted today, although there's nothing to
> stop someone from filing a Petition for Rulemaking with the
> FCC to relax the rules governing the recovery of heritage
> 3-letter callsigns and to revert to the policies that were
> in effect in the 1950s.
>
> I would love to hear more of those heritage callsigns on the
> air. At one time, New York had four of them: WOR (710), WJZ
> (770), WHN (1050), and WOV (1280). Today, only WOR remains.
>
> It is very unlikely that ABC / Disney would sell any of
> their AM O&Os in New York. Even though WEPN gets abysmal
> ratings, it is the 50,000 watt New York flagship of ESPN
> Radio, a network that has a lot of affiliates nationwide.
> Likewise, WQEW is the showcase and flagship station for the
> Radio Disney children's network and WABC is...well, WABC.
>
50,000 Watt Blowtorches are not that big of a deal anymore. Satellite radio is like having 100 of them at a time all in the same city. And when internet streaming is readily availible on our cellphones everywhere they will really
become a thing of the past or just another one of several choices for us all. The pie is shrinking and will continue to do so more every year but our choices just grow and grow and grow. Who needs these stations anymore? I don't when home I've got the internet for any news I need and in the car I've got my satellite radio. So the subject of heritage call signs is really irrelevent to todays listeners unless your a radio geek.
> > Did 1050 AM in N.Y.C. have the same owner between
> > about 1948 thru about 1962 during which WHN became WMGM
> then
> > WHN again? I also believe such speculation as this is
> very
> > unlikely but then again ...
> >
>
> No. The Loew's theatre chain owned WHN for many years before
> changing the call letters to WMGM. WMGM did not revert to
> its original WHN call letters until after George B. Storer
> bought the station in 1960.
>
> The FCC regulations regarding the recovery of such callsigns
> were more lenient back then. In 1957, when Westinghouse
> bought WAAM (TV) in Baltimore, they were able to recover the
> call letters WJZ-TV, tracing their history to the founding
> of WJZ Radio by Westinghouse in Newark, NJ in 1921. That
> would not be permitted today, although there's nothing to
> stop someone from filing a Petition for Rulemaking with the
> FCC to relax the rules governing the recovery of heritage
> 3-letter callsigns and to revert to the policies that were
> in effect in the 1950s.
>
> I would love to hear more of those heritage callsigns on the
> air. At one time, New York had four of them: WOR (710), WJZ
> (770), WHN (1050), and WOV (1280). Today, only WOR remains.
>
> It is very unlikely that ABC / Disney would sell any of
> their AM O&Os in New York. Even though WEPN gets abysmal
> ratings, it is the 50,000 watt New York flagship of ESPN
> Radio, a network that has a lot of affiliates nationwide.
> Likewise, WQEW is the showcase and flagship station for the
> Radio Disney children's network and WABC is...well, WABC.
>
50,000 Watt Blowtorches are not that big of a deal anymore. Satellite radio is like having 100 of them at a time all in the same city. And when internet streaming is readily availible on our cellphones everywhere they will really
become a thing of the past or just another one of several choices for us all. The pie is shrinking and will continue to do so more every year but our choices just grow and grow and grow. Who needs these stations anymore? I don't when home I've got the internet for any news I need and in the car I've got my satellite radio. So the subject of heritage call signs is really irrelevent to todays listeners unless your a radio geek.
Re: Heritage callsigns
> 50,000 Watt Blowtorches are not that big of a deal anymore.
> Satellite radio is like having 100 of them at a time all in
> the same city. And when internet streaming is readily
> availible on our cellphones everywhere they will really
> become a thing of the past or just another one of several
> choices for us all. The pie is shrinking and will continue
> to do so more every year but our choices just grow and grow
> and grow. Who needs these stations anymore? I don't when
> home I've got the internet for any news I need and in the
> car I've got my satellite radio. So the subject of heritage
> call signs is really irrelevent to todays listeners unless
> your a radio geek.
Which is why we here care.
That being said, it's obvious that some people at radio stations care, even if the legal is buried at 10 before the hour in the middle of a 7 minute stopset. Why did ABC/ESPN bother changing the callsign on 1050 from WEVD? And I mean it as a real question. The only answer I can think of is that the engineering people actually care. I doubt most of the public would even notice.
> 50,000 Watt Blowtorches are not that big of a deal anymore.
> Satellite radio is like having 100 of them at a time all in
> the same city. And when internet streaming is readily
> availible on our cellphones everywhere they will really
> become a thing of the past or just another one of several
> choices for us all. The pie is shrinking and will continue
> to do so more every year but our choices just grow and grow
> and grow. Who needs these stations anymore? I don't when
> home I've got the internet for any news I need and in the
> car I've got my satellite radio. So the subject of heritage
> call signs is really irrelevent to todays listeners unless
> your a radio geek.
Which is why we here care.
That being said, it's obvious that some people at radio stations care, even if the legal is buried at 10 before the hour in the middle of a 7 minute stopset. Why did ABC/ESPN bother changing the callsign on 1050 from WEVD? And I mean it as a real question. The only answer I can think of is that the engineering people actually care. I doubt most of the public would even notice.
M
Mouth1390
Guest
Re: IF DISNEY SELLS 1050--WHN CALL SIGN
> > > if the new 1050 had a good lawyer, and used KHJ as a
> > precedent,
> > > they may be able to get such calls back.
> > >
> >
> > KKHJ "claimed" that "KK" when said in Spanish was "caca"
> > and, thus, a dirty word. Based on that (even if they never
>
> > said KKHJ in Spanish), the FCc allowed the change back to
> > the old calls.
> >
> > Otherwise, the rule is that only the original licencee who
>
> > changed away from 3-letter calls can ask for them back. If
>
> > the station has changed ownership, it can not be done.
>
> I wonder if the FCC has a soft spot for restoring three
> letter heritage calls to an original facility of radio that
> had a long market presence with them. I have this question
> too. Did 1050 AM in N.Y.C. have the same owner between
> about 1948 thru about 1962 during which WHN became WMGM then
> WHN again? I also believe such speculation as this is very
> unlikely but then again ...
>
Lowe's Theater's owned WMGM, New York in that period. And in 1945, WHN became WMGM before returning the WHN call sign in 1962.
> > > if the new 1050 had a good lawyer, and used KHJ as a
> > precedent,
> > > they may be able to get such calls back.
> > >
> >
> > KKHJ "claimed" that "KK" when said in Spanish was "caca"
> > and, thus, a dirty word. Based on that (even if they never
>
> > said KKHJ in Spanish), the FCc allowed the change back to
> > the old calls.
> >
> > Otherwise, the rule is that only the original licencee who
>
> > changed away from 3-letter calls can ask for them back. If
>
> > the station has changed ownership, it can not be done.
>
> I wonder if the FCC has a soft spot for restoring three
> letter heritage calls to an original facility of radio that
> had a long market presence with them. I have this question
> too. Did 1050 AM in N.Y.C. have the same owner between
> about 1948 thru about 1962 during which WHN became WMGM then
> WHN again? I also believe such speculation as this is very
> unlikely but then again ...
>
Lowe's Theater's owned WMGM, New York in that period. And in 1945, WHN became WMGM before returning the WHN call sign in 1962.
Re: Heritage callsigns
Conventional radio is virtual and free. You do not need to carry around a specific radio and make sure the bill was paid. This is why I think "old school"
radio will always be here and this is why big signals will always be a premium.
> > > Did 1050 AM in N.Y.C. have the same owner between
> > > about 1948 thru about 1962 during which WHN became WMGM
> > then
> > > WHN again? I also believe such speculation as this is
> > very
> > > unlikely but then again ...
> > >
> >
> > No. The Loew's theatre chain owned WHN for many years
> before
> > changing the call letters to WMGM. WMGM did not revert to
> > its original WHN call letters until after George B. Storer
>
> > bought the station in 1960.
> >
> > The FCC regulations regarding the recovery of such
> callsigns
> > were more lenient back then. In 1957, when Westinghouse
> > bought WAAM (TV) in Baltimore, they were able to recover
> the
> > call letters WJZ-TV, tracing their history to the founding
>
> > of WJZ Radio by Westinghouse in Newark, NJ in 1921. That
> > would not be permitted today, although there's nothing to
> > stop someone from filing a Petition for Rulemaking with
> the
> > FCC to relax the rules governing the recovery of heritage
> > 3-letter callsigns and to revert to the policies that were
>
> > in effect in the 1950s.
> >
> > I would love to hear more of those heritage callsigns on
> the
> > air. At one time, New York had four of them: WOR (710),
> WJZ
> > (770), WHN (1050), and WOV (1280). Today, only WOR
> remains.
> >
> > It is very unlikely that ABC / Disney would sell any of
> > their AM O&Os in New York. Even though WEPN gets abysmal
> > ratings, it is the 50,000 watt New York flagship of ESPN
> > Radio, a network that has a lot of affiliates nationwide.
> > Likewise, WQEW is the showcase and flagship station for
> the
> > Radio Disney children's network and WABC is...well, WABC.
> >
> 50,000 Watt Blowtorches are not that big of a deal anymore.
> Satellite radio is like having 100 of them at a time all in
> the same city. And when internet streaming is readily
> availible on our cellphones everywhere they will really
> become a thing of the past or just another one of several
> choices for us all. The pie is shrinking and will continue
> to do so more every year but our choices just grow and grow
> and grow. Who needs these stations anymore? I don't when
> home I've got the internet for any news I need and in the
> car I've got my satellite radio. So the subject of heritage
> call signs is really irrelevent to todays listeners unless
> your a radio geek.
>
Conventional radio is virtual and free. You do not need to carry around a specific radio and make sure the bill was paid. This is why I think "old school"
radio will always be here and this is why big signals will always be a premium.
> > > Did 1050 AM in N.Y.C. have the same owner between
> > > about 1948 thru about 1962 during which WHN became WMGM
> > then
> > > WHN again? I also believe such speculation as this is
> > very
> > > unlikely but then again ...
> > >
> >
> > No. The Loew's theatre chain owned WHN for many years
> before
> > changing the call letters to WMGM. WMGM did not revert to
> > its original WHN call letters until after George B. Storer
>
> > bought the station in 1960.
> >
> > The FCC regulations regarding the recovery of such
> callsigns
> > were more lenient back then. In 1957, when Westinghouse
> > bought WAAM (TV) in Baltimore, they were able to recover
> the
> > call letters WJZ-TV, tracing their history to the founding
>
> > of WJZ Radio by Westinghouse in Newark, NJ in 1921. That
> > would not be permitted today, although there's nothing to
> > stop someone from filing a Petition for Rulemaking with
> the
> > FCC to relax the rules governing the recovery of heritage
> > 3-letter callsigns and to revert to the policies that were
>
> > in effect in the 1950s.
> >
> > I would love to hear more of those heritage callsigns on
> the
> > air. At one time, New York had four of them: WOR (710),
> WJZ
> > (770), WHN (1050), and WOV (1280). Today, only WOR
> remains.
> >
> > It is very unlikely that ABC / Disney would sell any of
> > their AM O&Os in New York. Even though WEPN gets abysmal
> > ratings, it is the 50,000 watt New York flagship of ESPN
> > Radio, a network that has a lot of affiliates nationwide.
> > Likewise, WQEW is the showcase and flagship station for
> the
> > Radio Disney children's network and WABC is...well, WABC.
> >
> 50,000 Watt Blowtorches are not that big of a deal anymore.
> Satellite radio is like having 100 of them at a time all in
> the same city. And when internet streaming is readily
> availible on our cellphones everywhere they will really
> become a thing of the past or just another one of several
> choices for us all. The pie is shrinking and will continue
> to do so more every year but our choices just grow and grow
> and grow. Who needs these stations anymore? I don't when
> home I've got the internet for any news I need and in the
> car I've got my satellite radio. So the subject of heritage
> call signs is really irrelevent to todays listeners unless
> your a radio geek.
>
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Re: Heritage callsigns
> 50,000 Watt Blowtorches are not that big of a deal anymore.
> Satellite radio is like having 100 of them at a time all in
> the same city. And when internet streaming is readily
> availible on our cellphones everywhere they will really
> become a thing of the past or just another one of several
> choices for us all. Who needs these stations anymore?
I do...because I absolutely REFUSE to pay a monthly fee for the privilege of listening to radio, as you do if you subscribe to XM or Sirius. And even AM sounds better than whatever would come out of the tiny transducer on a cell phone...and you would have to pay a monthly fee for that, too.
But then, the people who embrace these newfangled pay media are the same ones who embraced cable TV (ever-escalating monthly fees and all) and who buy bottled water when I can get all the water I want out of the tap and all the TV I want from an antenna...even if the shows suck nowadays and I watch very little TV anymore!
> 50,000 Watt Blowtorches are not that big of a deal anymore.
> Satellite radio is like having 100 of them at a time all in
> the same city. And when internet streaming is readily
> availible on our cellphones everywhere they will really
> become a thing of the past or just another one of several
> choices for us all. Who needs these stations anymore?
I do...because I absolutely REFUSE to pay a monthly fee for the privilege of listening to radio, as you do if you subscribe to XM or Sirius. And even AM sounds better than whatever would come out of the tiny transducer on a cell phone...and you would have to pay a monthly fee for that, too.
But then, the people who embrace these newfangled pay media are the same ones who embraced cable TV (ever-escalating monthly fees and all) and who buy bottled water when I can get all the water I want out of the tap and all the TV I want from an antenna...even if the shows suck nowadays and I watch very little TV anymore!
Re: Heritage callsigns
> But then, the people who embrace these newfangled pay media
> are the same ones who embraced cable TV (ever-escalating
> monthly fees and all) and who buy bottled water when I can
> get all the water I want out of the tap and all the TV I
> want from an antenna...even if the shows suck nowadays and I
> watch very little TV anymore!
TV shows aren't the only thing you mentioned that aren't like they used to be. I don't watch very much TV and I only use an antenna when I do, but I don't drink the tap water where I live. It's so bad that I get a throat irritation after a few days of it, and recently it actually stuffed up one of those "Brita" water filters right away. I have to buy bottled spring water, $.50 cents a gallon at DeMoula's Market Basket.
> But then, the people who embrace these newfangled pay media
> are the same ones who embraced cable TV (ever-escalating
> monthly fees and all) and who buy bottled water when I can
> get all the water I want out of the tap and all the TV I
> want from an antenna...even if the shows suck nowadays and I
> watch very little TV anymore!
TV shows aren't the only thing you mentioned that aren't like they used to be. I don't watch very much TV and I only use an antenna when I do, but I don't drink the tap water where I live. It's so bad that I get a throat irritation after a few days of it, and recently it actually stuffed up one of those "Brita" water filters right away. I have to buy bottled spring water, $.50 cents a gallon at DeMoula's Market Basket.
> > > The real issue is whether any under-65 music format can work
> > > on AM.
> > >
> > Oldies?? That's anywhere between 25-54 and 35-64, depending
> > on playlist selections and jock presentation.
>
> I don't think anyone under 60 or 65 would listen much to AM
> music quality.
I would if they had continued to develop C-Quam AM stereo, and hadn't ruined the analog signals with IBOC. It sounded almost as good as FM on a wideband AM stereo receiver if you were getting a clean, strong signal.
> > > on AM.
> > >
> > Oldies?? That's anywhere between 25-54 and 35-64, depending
> > on playlist selections and jock presentation.
>
> I don't think anyone under 60 or 65 would listen much to AM
> music quality.
I would if they had continued to develop C-Quam AM stereo, and hadn't ruined the analog signals with IBOC. It sounded almost as good as FM on a wideband AM stereo receiver if you were getting a clean, strong signal.
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