if ? gets the 2 CC stations, what will happen to them.....(just bored)

[AnimatronicAbeLincoln]

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CC MEGA EPLOYEES WERE TOLD THAT MEGA WOULD REMAIN THE SAME FOR ATLEAT 2 YEARS.

New owners are not obligated to keep promises of the previous owners. If anyone has a contract, they may purchase the option. In other words, pay them off. I can't tell you how many times I've seen that happen.

People say stuff like that to their staff when a station is in the middle of a transfer of ownership to keep all the jocks and stuff from jumping ship.

 

[davideduardo]

If Mix and Mega are as profitable as you guys say, there's nothing stopping CC from selling 101 and 96.5 and flipping the formats of two of their other less-profitable stations, now calling them Mega and Mix and even keeping the call letters KLOL and KHMX, leaving the new owners of 101 and 96 to make up their own (possibly lucrative) formats.

What's to stop them? The DOJ specifically ordered the sale of KLOL and its format due to the overlapping ownership issues.

 

[oldjohnny]

If Mix and Mega are as profitable as you guys say, there's nothing stopping CC from selling 101 and 96.5 and flipping the formats of two of their other less-profitable stations, now calling them Mega and Mix and even keeping the call letters KLOL and KHMX, leaving the new owners of 101 and 96 to make up their own (possibly lucrative) formats.

What's to stop them? The DOJ specifically ordered the sale of KLOL and its format due to the overlapping ownership issues.

I think they will care less of where their Hispanic listeners of Mega go. They are just letting it go. They can't do anything about it.

I can bet a lunch that CC will transfer the KLOL call letters to another station. I don't think they want for someone to profit from those legendary call letters. They shure as hell didn't let Cumulus get their hands on them, hence the mess of KIOL was born (I still wonder why Cumulus is protecting those call letters)

I am shure that they will try to transfer as many listeners to Sunny when KHMX goes. That is a no brainer.

 

[ilistentotheradio]

If Mix and Mega are as profitable as you guys say, there's nothing stopping CC from selling 101 and 96.5 and flipping the formats of two of their other less-profitable stations, now calling them Mega and Mix and even keeping the call letters KLOL and KHMX, leaving the new owners of 101 and 96 to make up their own (possibly lucrative) formats.

What's to stop them? The DOJ specifically ordered the sale of KLOL and its format due to the overlapping ownership issues.

I think they will care less of where their Hispanic listeners of Mega go. They are just letting it go. They can't do anything about it.

I can bet a lunch that CC will transfer the KLOL call letters to another station. I don't think they want for someone to profit from those legendary call letters. They shure as hell didn't let Cumulus get their hands on them, hence the mess of KIOL was born (I still wonder why Cumulus is protecting those call letters)

I am shure that they will try to transfer as many listeners to Sunny when KHMX goes. That is a no brainer.

Kinda pointless to transfer KLOL call letters. K-LOL... K-lol... K-101... 101.1... see a correlation?

 

[oldjohnny]

If Mix and Mega are as profitable as you guys say, there's nothing stopping CC from selling 101 and 96.5 and flipping the formats of two of their other less-profitable stations, now calling them Mega and Mix and even keeping the call letters KLOL and KHMX, leaving the new owners of 101 and 96 to make up their own (possibly lucrative) formats.

What's to stop them? The DOJ specifically ordered the sale of KLOL and its format due to the overlapping ownership issues.

I think they will care less of where their Hispanic listeners of Mega go. They are just letting it go. They can't do anything about it.

I can bet a lunch that CC will transfer the KLOL call letters to another station. I don't think they want for someone to profit from those legendary call letters. They shure as hell didn't let Cumulus get their hands on them, hence the mess of KIOL was born (I still wonder why Cumulus is protecting those call letters)

I am shure that they will try to transfer as many listeners to Sunny when KHMX goes. That is a no brainer.

Kinda pointless to transfer KLOL call letters. K-LOL... K-lol... K-101... 101.1... see a correlation?

Again, I don't think they want someone to profit from the call letters. The last thing CC wants is for someone to start a Rock station (oh let's just say called Rock 101 KLOL) and go against The Buzz. Makes a lot of sense to get them away from the buyers. Maybe transfer them out of the market or put them at 790 AM.

 

[hifidistortion]

To me it would make sense to get 2 strong signals to compliment KILT and Hot, I would think that CBS can and will make a strong cluster, the higher ups wanted that I thought...

 

[AnimatronicAbeLincoln]

Kinda pointless to transfer KLOL call letters. K-LOL... K-lol... K-101... 101.1... see a correlation?

CC could transfer them to a station in a different city just to park them there and keep anyone in Houston from having them if they wanted to.

Actually... I wonder if the DOJ, when they handed down their edict to sell these stations... is it possible they specified that CC was not allowed to change the formats before they sold them?

I don't know how these things work, maybe someone else does, but the reason I ask is because the DOJ specified certain stations. They didn't just say, "OK, you have to get rid of two, we don't care what two you get rid of." The DOJ must have had a reason for specifying these certain stations that have to be unloaded.

 

[Kent]

I don't know how these things work, maybe someone else does, but the reason I ask is because the DOJ specified certain stations. They didn't just say, "OK, you have to get rid of two, we don't care what two you get rid of." The DOJ must have had a reason for specifying these certain stations that have to be unloaded.

Yes, the DOJ did have a reason for requesting Clear Channel unload the stations they're required to unload. It was based on at least some of the same private equity firms buying Clear Channel already owning a substantial part of Univision and Cumulus Media Partners.

KLOL was a mandated divestiture due to the format. The DOJ indicated they felt that basically the same people would own too much of the Hispanic market if they had the entire list of Univision stations plus KLOL. I'm sure the other station was decided based on total market revenue or total audience share for a specific audience among all the groups involved.

 

[radioeye]

I don't know how these things work, maybe someone else does, but the reason I ask is because the DOJ specified certain stations. They didn't just say, "OK, you have to get rid of two, we don't care what two you get rid of." The DOJ must have had a reason for specifying these certain stations that have to be unloaded.

Yes, the DOJ did have a reason for requesting Clear Channel unload the stations they're required to unload. It was based on at least some of the same private equity firms buying Clear Channel already owning a substantial part of Univision and Cumulus Media Partners.

KLOL was a mandated divestiture due to the format. The DOJ indicated they felt that basically the same people would own too much of the Hispanic market if they had the entire list of Univision stations plus KLOL. I'm sure the other station was decided based on total market revenue or total audience share for a specific audience among all the groups involved.

I'm pretty sure that your right one your first point, but on the second point the commission has consistantly ruled that a Spanish language formatted radio station and/or tv station are not unique in the marketplace. It was more of an ownership issue and Clear Channel made their selection based on revenue at the time of their election to divest.

Anyway, that's the way I remember it.

 

[davideduardo]

I'm pretty sure that your right one your first point, but on the second point the commission has consistantly ruled that a Spanish language formatted radio station and/or tv station are not unique in the marketplace. It was more of an ownership issue and Clear Channel made their selection based on revenue at the time of their election to divest.

But the order to sell in Houston was not made by the FCC but by the DOJ, who can use market sector or segment as a criteria if it likes.

 

[radioeye]

I'm pretty sure that your right one your first point, but on the second point the commission has consistantly ruled that a Spanish language formatted radio station and/or tv station are not unique in the marketplace. It was more of an ownership issue and Clear Channel made their selection based on revenue at the time of their election to divest.

But the order to sell in Houston was not made by the FCC but by the DOJ, who can use market sector or segment as a criteria if it likes.

Still, I don't recall why. When HBC merged with Univision, both the DOJ and the FCC ruled the the Hispanic market was not unique. Why does KLOL, stand out as being unique. It was my understanding that they had to sell two stations, they agreed initial to sell KLOL and another that was at that time to be announced. I do not recall the DOJ instructing CC to sell KLOL. I would like to know if the DOJ issued such an order. If they sell KLOL to Univision does that make the Hispanic market more stable?

 

[davideduardo]

I would like to know if the DOJ issued such an order. If they sell KLOL to Univision does that make the Hispanic market more stable?

The DOJ ordered Clear Channel to divest stations in Cincinnati, Houston, Las Vegas and San Jose to approve the sale that just recently closed. In the case of Houston, they ordered KLOL and one of two other stations to be sold so that the overlapping Cumulus - Univision - Clear Channel ownership would meet their criteria.

Thus, they can not sell to Univision or Cumulus.

 

[kendro]

Read the order here for a migraine headache:
http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/f230100/230172.htm

Good luck.

 

[Radioman100]

The DOJ ordered Clear Channel to divest stations in Cincinnati, Houston, Las Vegas and San Jose to approve the sale that just recently closed. In the case of Houston, they ordered KLOL and one of two other stations to be sold so that the overlapping Cumulus - Univision - Clear Channel ownership would meet their criteria.

Thus, they can not sell to Univision or Cumulus.

According to the DOJ document they can't sell to CMP Susquehanna or Cumulus Media Partners. It doesn't say anything about Cumulus Media Inc.

 

[ilistentotheradio]

The DOJ ordered Clear Channel to divest stations in Cincinnati, Houston, Las Vegas and San Jose to approve the sale that just recently closed. In the case of Houston, they ordered KLOL and one of two other stations to be sold so that the overlapping Cumulus - Univision - Clear Channel ownership would meet their criteria.

Thus, they can not sell to Univision or Cumulus.

According to the DOJ document they can't sell to CMP Susquehanna or Cumulus Media Partners. It doesn't say anything about Cumulus Media Inc.

Good luck pulling that one off.

 

[oldjohnny]

The DOJ ordered Clear Channel to divest stations in Cincinnati, Houston, Las Vegas and San Jose to approve the sale that just recently closed. In the case of Houston, they ordered KLOL and one of two other stations to be sold so that the overlapping Cumulus - Univision - Clear Channel ownership would meet their criteria.

Thus, they can not sell to Univision or Cumulus.

According to the DOJ document they can't sell to CMP Susquehanna or Cumulus Media Partners. It doesn't say anything about Cumulus Media Inc.

Quit being silly! trix are for kids! ;D,What I really mean is, Inc or Partners, it won't matter. They won't even bother buying it since they know they are not supposed to!!!!

 

[michaelshiloh]

Radioman:

FWIW: Cumulus Media Partners is managed by Cumulus Media, and Cumulus Media has a stake in CMP. Conflict of interest in the eyes of the DoJ.

 

[Radioman100]

Radioman:

FWIW: Cumulus Media Partners is managed by Cumulus Media, and Cumulus Media has a stake in CMP. Conflict of interest in the eyes of the DoJ.

Spend a little time with Google. Ownership shuffles happen all the time with other types of businesses to get around DOJ rulings just like this one.

Given that fact, I'm not counting out Cumulus or Univision. Where there's a will (and lawyers) there's a way.