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If HD Wants a go they need to fix this

Side adjustments. That is the biggest killer. At my home place near Austin, I'm only maybe 12 miles from KBPA's tower, sometimes if Corpus 103.7 or Houston's 103.7 comes in, it even knocks out the HD signal on KBPA. Another example, 95.5 KKMJ, KLEY 95.7 south of San antonio skips up a lot of the time, kills the HD signal.

I think HD Radio also needs to Stop the FCC from putting in these translator FM stations around. There is one not to far out of KROX's 101.5. Theres a 101.7 maybe 20 miles from it, I know that will be a BIG factor since I can receive them very good even 20 miles from the transmitter of the translator.

They also need to amp up the signal on HD. If people like me only 30 miles from the towers experience reception problems, than they will most likely take the radio back. I like the idea of more channels, but they need to get these things fixed! IF not then I truly think its doomed.
 
jras20 said:
Side adjustments. That is the biggest killer. At my home place near Austin, I'm only maybe 12 miles from KBPA's tower, sometimes if Corpus 103.7 or Houston's 103.7 comes in, it even knocks out the HD signal on KBPA. Another example, 95.5 KKMJ, KLEY 95.7 south of San antonio skips up a lot of the time, kills the HD signal.

Since HD works by occupying the adjacent channels, both up and down from the analog channel, this will be very difficult to "fix" in its current form. For instance if a station broadcasts in HD on 95.5, then its HD sidebands will be found on 95.3 as well as 95.7. At the current injection level of -20 db, it doesn’t seem to be much of a problem, although range and building penetration are somewhat limited. This is a hybrid system which is a compromise at best. Going all digital and thus occupying only one channel would solve the problem, but that means giving up an audience that owns around a billion analog radios. Nobody in their right mind is going to do that at this stage of the game.


jras20 said:
I think HD Radio also needs to Stop the FCC from putting in these translator FM stations around. There is one not to far out of KROX's 101.5. Theres a 101.7 maybe 20 miles from it, I know that will be a BIG factor since I can receive them very good even 20 miles from the transmitter of the translator.

Well, stand by. Still left over from the "Great Translator Invasion" are about 8500 unprocessed applications. A lot of them will eventually be granted. With the current fervor to put AM and HD-2 channels on analog translators, I don't see much possibility of eliminating additional ones. Odds are there will be a lot more in your future. There are already something like 12-13,000 translators either on the air or with Construction Permits. It is very hard to ""un-ring" a bell, or as they say here in Texas, "That horse has left the barn."

jras20 said:
They also need to amp up the signal on HD. If people like me only 30 miles from the towers experience reception problems, than they will most likely take the radio back. I like the idea of more channels, but they need to get these things fixed! IF not then I truly think its doomed.

As I mentioned in the first response (above), the HD signal is contained on the adjacent channels, relative to the analog signal. If you increase the power as you suggest, people like you may very well have even more reception problems, not less. The proponents of raising the power are assuming that only a few stations will actually do it, and the interference problems will be minimal. Maybe so, but think about what would happen if everybody lit up a high powered HD signal. Somehow, I don't think you’d like it.

Further, nobody seems to be taking into account the effect that ‘skip” has on these stations, and even on their distant neighbors. Even the biggest HD radio proponents concede that raising the power levels by 10 db may not work in every instance.

One thing is for sure: If we succeed in turning the FM band into an RF sewer, a lot of people will seek other forms of entertainment. That may be Internet, Ipod, their own CD collection, maybe satellite, or something that none of us have envisioned as yet. Time will tell.
 
Chuck said:
Well, stand by. Still left over from the "Great Translator Invasion" are about 8500 unprocessed applications.

On a whim I looked this up because I thought we were fairly well through them. Not even close. 6641 as of this morning. Wait 'til the AM stampede gets underway. athen it'll get ugly, applicant wise.

A lot of them will eventually be granted. With the current fervor to put AM and HD-2 channels on analog translators, I don't see much possibility of eliminating additional ones. Odds are there will be a lot more in your future. There are already something like 12-13,000 translators either on the air or with Construction Permits. It is very hard to ""un-ring" a bell, or as they say here in Texas, "That horse has left the barn."

Agreed.

Clouseau
 
clouseau said:
Chuck said:
Well, stand by. Still left over from the "Great Translator Invasion" are about 8500 unprocessed applications.

On a whim I looked this up because I thought we were fairly well through them. Not even close. 6641 as of this morning. Wait 'til the AM stampede gets underway. athen it'll get ugly, applicant wise.

A lot of them will eventually be granted. With the current fervor to put AM and HD-2 channels on analog translators, I don't see much possibility of eliminating additional ones. Odds are there will be a lot more in your future. There are already something like 12-13,000 translators either on the air or with Construction Permits. It is very hard to ""un-ring" a bell, or as they say here in Texas, "That horse has left the barn."

Agreed.

Clouseau

I guess they are making progress. The 8500 number was my recollection from when they froze the whole thing a couple of years ago. Despite the "freeze" I see new translators showing up on the FCC Daily Digest almost every day. I'm not sure if they are just modifications to an existing (or permitted) facility, or if some of them are actually new. I'll take 6641 number as correct. That is still a LOT of applications. Without expanding the FM band into TV channels 5 & 6, I think things will get very interesting. Putting five pounds of stuff into a one pound sack has never worked very well.
 
Meduci AM debunked

The Inspector has hade much about KB’s exotic tuner purchases—the Meducci handmade tuner... I OWN ONE—and it is AWESOME and WORTH the expenditure if one is intersected in QUALITY AM RECEPTION. I enjoy AM oldies stations here in ChasTown and back home in my boyhood home of Connersville, IN [1580 WIFE]]... THEY SOUND GREAT with their BE/Omnia plant. I LOVE IT! ‘HOPE THEY STAY AROUND... GREAT MUSIC and GREAT AUDIO [thanks Bob]!

The Meduci is near-FM-mono in quality within a reasonable signal area. AM audio is PISTRINE and enjoyable on this tuner. There IS NO detriment to AM listening when tuned to a reasonably-presentented AM station at a local signal level.... “Skywave” reception within the IBOC universe is quite another matter... This tuner is “wideband”—and not generally tolerant to HD “trash”. A good tunable antenna can midigate this, but the AM band would be MUCH BETTER to elliminate the IBOC trash that yeilds NO benfit.

I must point out... The Meducci AM tuner provides “hi fidelity” AM listening that WOULD be “mono hi-fi” to casual listeners [even in music formats].... C-QUAM AM Stereo sounds great on stations offering that service. I suspect that had the Meduccici’s capabilities been built into general-consumer radios, AM radio might be much different and enjoyable to MANY MORE!
 
hipporadio said:
Meduci AM debunked

The Inspector has hade much about KB’s exotic tuner purchases—the Meducci handmade tuner... I OWN ONE—and it is AWESOME and WORTH the expenditure if one is intersected in QUALITY AM RECEPTION. I enjoy AM oldies stations here in ChasTown and back home in my boyhood home of Connersville, IN [1580 WIFE]]... THEY SOUND GREAT with their BE/Omnia plant. I LOVE IT! ‘HOPE THEY STAY AROUND... GREAT MUSIC and GREAT AUDIO [thanks Bob]!

The Meduci is near-FM-mono in quality within a reasonable signal area. AM audio is PISTRINE and enjoyable on this tuner. There IS NO detriment to AM listening when tuned to a reasonably-presentented AM station at a local signal level.... “Skywave” reception within the IBOC universe is quite another matter... This tuner is “wideband”—and not generally tolerant to HD “trash”. A good tunable antenna can midigate this, but the AM band would be MUCH BETTER to elliminate the IBOC trash that yeilds NO benfit.

I must point out... The Meducci AM tuner provides “hi fidelity” AM listening that WOULD be “mono hi-fi” to casual listeners [even in music formats].... C-QUAM AM Stereo sounds great on stations offering that service. I suspect that had the Meduccici’s capabilities been built into general-consumer radios, AM radio might be much different and enjoyable to MANY MORE!

I agree with all of this. My point is merely that to speak to AM radio's future and include a $200 tuner is a little far fetched. I'm not slamming it for a moment. Just pointing out it's not exactly a common piece of consumer gear. Or a comon consumer product for that matter.

BTW Welcome back, Hip.

Clouseau
 
In the “practical world”—the Inspector is CORRECT! ... The Meduci is a fossil-that-speaks-of rocks... Representative of a bygone era [SAD albeit]. I won’t dispute this – rather, I will lament the fine-sounding occasional AM station that makes its way to it. There are more AM stations that satisfy the analog audio appetites of AM enthusiasts than there are AM stations that saddlebag their sidebands with IBOC in hopes of impressing an audio lover.

There is NOTHING “good“ about “AM digital audio”—only the “legacy” of telephone-quality fall-back audio and an occasional “blink” into metallic and unrealistic “digital audio”. This system is “defective and destructive” and should be eliminated... AM would best be served to stand on its primative-own... I’d suspect I’d be better-off if depended on that model. AM in its "crude" analog core isn't really bad! ...You guys depend on cell phones EVERY DAY - and that is MUCH WORSE!
 
My Meduci AMX-2000 tuner cost $137.00 ... Delivered from Jeff Deck with PERFECTION - infact, it was delayed so he could get the coil-of-choice into his science-fair project [just kidding]. Despite it’s demure stature, it works great—delivering AWESOME AM sonic quality and reception performance. I have toted this receiver to Myrtle Beach, SC to listen to one of the lone-surviving AM C-QUAM stereo stations [910 WNMB] and the presentation is impressive - and very-listenable, BTW :)

Had the essence of Mr. Deck’s tuner been adopted a decade ago, the AM radio “biz” would have been MUCH DIFFERENT.

Folks in this forum SHOULD NOT chastise posters for investing in this fine product – we all have our unique proclivities, and the AMX-2000 is one with a “deserving” and well-earned status. I use my Meduci tuner EVERY DAY to enjoy a suburban ChasTowne AM that delivers the Beatles 'n Beach Boys – and I am a satisfied consumer and happy radio listener—enjoying AM radio at a level the typical Sony customer is not entitled to...

Is there ANYTHING wrong with that?
 
Re: meduci AMX-2000 Stereo AM Tuner

Let me introduce myself. I am Jeff Deck, the principal inventor of the meduci AMX-2000 component AM stereo tuner. I wish to thank everyone for commenting in this forum on their experiences with this product, especially KB10KL and Hipporadio. Each tuner was sold for $150 (domestic sales) with free shipping (slightly higher for postage to international destinations).

This tuner was introduced in October 2005 as an affordable tuner for the masses. This was a labor of love and incentive for broadcasters to continue their AM stereo C-QuAM broadcasts. It was also a response to the failed iBiquity AM HD Radio system, in that iBiquity will have some needed competition. May the best stereo system and receivers win in the market!

We feel that many AM station engineers have managed to keep their stereo plant and analog pilots functioning due to the availability of the AMX-2000 tuner. Listeners have an opportunity to hear wide band audio from their local AM stereo stations. This tuner even makes many mono stations sound better!

Due to time constraints, I will not have much opportunity to respond to your posts and questions. We wish to thank everyone for the interest!

Sincerely,
meduci, LLC
 
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