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If ISX did not appear Skin would not be Standards now

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The GM plan was to flip 97.5 to Standards in Stereo, but when JJZ was put to death by CC, the brains at GM figured SJ can have jazz and standards listeners, thus having a larger audiance. If this happened, I guess 1340 would now be Real Oldies or Country Classics. GM had no intention of making 97.5 a sports or talk outlet.
 
where do you get the idea greater media would ever even consider a flip to standards on fm? peter smythe was a major reason why wpen dropped the standards format. why? because it was not bringing in revenue. the standards format nationwide always suffered from revenue issues because of the demos. for many years wpen was in the arb top 10, 12-plus, and most of the time in the top 6, but the demos were top-heavy 55-plus which meant death for any agency buys. if you aren't a 25-54 producer, forget it. it's an industry problem how 55-plus is ignored. but it is.

the golden opportunity would have been to switch the standards format to fm when wpen had a strong listener base. it was talked about and it was heavily lobbied by those of us who had a part in it. the best we could hope for was the improved signal, which was also talked about for years. but without the support of corporate, it was moot. the problem was all the people who were part of the standards format origination in 1979 on wpen left, were asked to leave, died, retired, or just became frustrated and left. peter smythe had little passion for the format and understandably decided to try formats that he felt would be more revenue friendly. the oldies format had me scratching my head. the sports format has obviously been a major success (sure).

so back to your comment, with just a bit of history thrown in for validation - as long as peter smythe is with greater media, you will never see a standards format on fm - not as long as standards perform well only 55-plus. what about wpen? who knows? maybe they will come to their senses and realize wpen did produce a profit as a standards station - and try it again. i would doubt it 99 percent....but anything is possible! but it would never be the station it once was.
 
RunWithScissors said:
The GM plan was to flip 97.5 to Standards in Stereo, but when JJZ was put to death by CC, the brains at GM figured SJ can have jazz and standards listeners, thus having a larger audiance. If this happened, I guess 1340 would now be Real Oldies or Country Classics. GM had no intention of making 97.5 a sports or talk outlet.

I highly doubt Greater Media even gave standards on 97.5 more than four seconds of thought. Even the revamped, "cool hip", Michael Buble`-enhanced standards format isn't working (Red in St. Louis as an example) on FM.

As for what 1340 would be, that station will never be a player in the market - regardless of "real oldies 1340," "country classics 1340," or "martini lounge cigar smoking 1340" or whatever the hell the name of it is now. The signal sucks! It's digitally-hashed AM on a graveyard channel! Unless you super-serve the people within 12 miles of the tower, it'll never work.

And P.S. - the great IBOC experiment failed. WHAT didn't attract any 18-34s to buy a HD receiver to get the format off the ground. I seem to remember reading that "people who heard the sound of 1340 in HD were amazed" -- rrrrrriiiighhht.
 
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