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If YOU had your own station....

Two things have piqued my interest lately ... one is the thread on here about how people think the product has gone stale (or too corporate). The other is a question presented on a LA subscription service about "what causes you to stay in your car and not turn off the radio." In almost every answer the connection was something that was being done by a personality on the station -- it had nothing to do with a song (flip side of the question is what causes you to turn OFF your radio...and that had a lot to do with music and stale presentation).

So...my question for those who want to step up....if you had a station that gave you the "keys" to do whatever you wanted (without fear of corporate retribution...) what would YOU give to the rest of us? It can be a stand-alone, a cluster, an AM or FM or satellite or net or whatever --- I just want to know if there are any lurking creative minds that would keep us in our car afraid to turn off the radio...!


Mine would go something like this....
a) Break away from the "more music" and "jukebox" competition. Set the expectation that you're not going to be 5 in a row or whatever. Get personalities that are SMART and, ideally, funny too -- but most of all, RELATABLE. Build a clock that has two or three song sweeps ... but also feature spots so you can do afternoon drive news, and add some depth (topic depends on who you're targeting). Short sweeps means more stopsets which can be shorter ... so you are asking people to sit through two or three spots at a time ... not 8 or 9.

b) Develop an instant allergy to a decade or decades positioning. There's great new music and lots of great old music. Kind of nice if one station can deliver both. If you're doing 2 or 3 "contemporary" (recurrent, new or whatever...) and the rest outstanding favorites of all time ... drawing from a huge library ... you get a great big "oh wow" aspect to your library. But, remember it's not about the music -- it's about the entire content; most of which is locally-focused material that you can't get on XM or a pod.

c) Bring back the "bigger than life" mindset. All the great early promotions were really basically cheesy --- but they were PACKAGED as the biggest thing to ever hit town; or else they were just plain "out there" and everyone recognized the bit was for fun and not a $2Million giveaway!! Dropping a piano in Qwest field to "hear what it sounds like" or weird stuff like that....just for fun. People like going to the "fun" parties, so why not create one that's around all week long?? Surprises on the air create the best TSL (it's the philosophy that drives Stern).

Seems to me with a mix like that you'd be able to stand up against national services and pods and so forth that are focused on delivering "just the music". Radio's answer will NOT be "just the music" and the sooner we can figure out how to build something else's that's compelling --- we can save our own skin.
 
I think you've got a good start- I would suggest that the music played be not just the "hits" from an album, but many of the deeper cuts. There have always been great songs on albums that don't get the play they deserve. Me, I wouldn't play the #1 or #2 hit on ANY album, but that's just me. I think your point about great personalities is important, too. It's been said here many, many times, TALENT is what makes great radio. It's all about the people. <P ID="signature">______________
They say "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me." But what if those words are written on sticks and stones?</P>
 
1-I would hire an all live staff of people that entertained me or always have something worth hearing to say, and put them on, and never let a computer have it's own show.

2-I'd tell them you entertain, or I'll hire someone else who will damn it!

3-The sales staff would be horse whipped into submission! They'd know who the king was if they want to live!

4-Promotion would be word of mouth...that is, if the on air stuff is entertaining, than people will tell others to listen.

Thank you!
 
> I think you've got a good start- I would suggest that the
> music played be not just the "hits" from an album, but many
> of the deeper cuts. There have always been great songs on
> albums that don't get the play they deserve. Me, I wouldn't
> play the #1 or #2 hit on ANY album, but that's just me. I
> think your point about great personalities is important,
> too. It's been said here many, many times, TALENT is what
> makes great radio. It's all about the people.

I'd play a LOT of lost classics, great near-hit songs that have disappeared off the radio (not because they were cheesy, they were probably just too good.) Just whip 'em out, one after another. You'll cause a serious rise in the value of Depends stock......

There's lots of great ideas out there. And folks like Super CFL, KEXP, KGRG and a few others out there are heroes in today's heard-one, heard-'em-all cookie cutter radio. Keep the ideas comin'! :)
>
<P ID="signature">______________
Horse Sense: What a horse has that keeps it from betting on people.

[email protected]


</P>
 
KJR 95 KING 11 KOL 92.5 of course KZOK, KISW the competition and the talent that was involved with these stations was immense. The onair talent was great.
That is what is needed in seattle radio_OH! almost forgot KRAB 107.7 KYAC 1250
I feel most radio jocks and jocketts just feel it's a job nothing else.
These were real community radio. How many $2.50 concerts did you go to at the
Paramount Theater? There is nothing even close to that now.
Just my half cent worth.
 
hmm..If I had my own station I....wouldn't hire Allen Prell...
 
> 1-I would hire an all live staff of people that entertained
> me or always have something worth hearing to say, and put
> them on, and never let a computer have it's own show.
>
> 2-I'd tell them you entertain, or I'll hire someone else who
> will damn it!

....AND THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES!!
>
> 3-The sales staff would be horse whipped into submission!
> They'd know who the king was if they want to live!

..THAT'S RIGHT! SHUT UP B--CH AND BRING DADDY SOME BLING!!
>
> 4-Promotion would be word of mouth...that is, if the on air
> stuff is entertaining, than people will tell others to
> listen.

KHAFRE-FM, NUMBER ONE-BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO #2!!
>
> Thank you!

Hmmm....life around your station. Here's a few suggestions..

Drill Sargent Jocks:

"OK!! NOW LISTEN UP MAGGOTS! THERE'S GOING TO BE A CONTEST AT O-720. BUT FIRST, HERE'S DOMINATRIX SPRINCE/MARY/SARA...."

Dominatrix Traffic Reports:

"Northbound I-5, you pathetic little twerps have some tanker truck blocking the 44th Street exit in Lynnwood-is that where you live LOSER? Now you are GOING to pull off at the Alderwood Mall exit and drive that piece of s--t car of yours over to AM/PM and get 2 cheeseburgers for just 99 cents! YOU HEAR ME??!! DON'T YOU MAKE ME HURT YOU AGAIN!! WHAT? You don't have 99 cents?! BEND OVER!! This is it-BEND OVER!! You're getting the cattle prod after you lick my boots, boy!...."

(I'm sure most female broadcasters would secretly LOVE a job like this.)


Great idea! You're on to something!....Any others?



>
<P ID="signature">______________
Horse Sense: What a horse has that keeps it from betting on people.

[email protected]


</P>
 
Oh! You are the WINNER! You took what was already a gift and simply added diamonds to the crown! That is a vision! It can happen! A man can dream.

> > 1-I would hire an all live staff of people that
> entertained
> > me or always have something worth hearing to say, and put
> > them on, and never let a computer have it's own show.
> >
> > 2-I'd tell them you entertain, or I'll hire someone else
> who
> > will damn it!
>
> ....AND THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES!!
> >
> > 3-The sales staff would be horse whipped into submission!
> > They'd know who the king was if they want to live!
>
> ..THAT'S RIGHT! SHUT UP B--CH AND BRING DADDY SOME BLING!!
> >
> > 4-Promotion would be word of mouth...that is, if the on
> air
> > stuff is entertaining, than people will tell others to
> > listen.
>
> KHAFRE-FM, NUMBER ONE-BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO #2!!
> >
> > Thank you!
>
> Hmmm....life around your station. Here's a few suggestions..
>
>
> Drill Sargent Jocks:
>
> "OK!! NOW LISTEN UP MAGGOTS! THERE'S GOING TO BE A CONTEST
> AT O-720. BUT FIRST, HERE'S DOMINATRIX
> SPRINCE/MARY/SARA...."
>
> Dominatrix Traffic Reports:
>
> "Northbound I-5, you pathetic little twerps have some tanker
> truck blocking the 44th Street exit in Lynnwood-is that
> where you live LOSER? Now you are GOING to pull off at the
> Alderwood Mall exit and drive that piece of s--t car of
> yours over to AM/PM and get 2 cheeseburgers for just 99
> cents! YOU HEAR ME??!! DON'T YOU MAKE ME HURT YOU AGAIN!!
> WHAT? You don't have 99 cents?! BEND OVER!! This is it-BEND
> OVER!! You're getting the cattle prod after you lick my
> boots, boy!...."
>
> (I'm sure most female broadcasters would secretly LOVE a job
> like this.)
>
>
> Great idea! You're on to something!....Any others?
>
>
>
> >
>
 
> Oh! You are the WINNER! You took what was already a gift and
> simply added diamonds to the crown! That is a vision! It can
> happen! A man can dream.

That's what America's all about.... ;)


>
> > > 1-I would hire an all live staff of people that
> > entertained
> > > me or always have something worth hearing to say, and
> put
> > > them on, and never let a computer have it's own show.
> > >
> > > 2-I'd tell them you entertain, or I'll hire someone else
>
> > who
> > > will damn it!
> >
> > ....AND THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES!!
>
> > >
> > > 3-The sales staff would be horse whipped into
> submission!
> > > They'd know who the king was if they want to live!
> >
> > ..THAT'S RIGHT! SHUT UP B--CH AND BRING DADDY SOME BLING!!
>
> > >
> > > 4-Promotion would be word of mouth...that is, if the on
> > air
> > > stuff is entertaining, than people will tell others to
> > > listen.
> >
> > KHAFRE-FM, NUMBER ONE-BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO #2!!
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> >
> > Hmmm....life around your station. Here's a few
> suggestions..
> >
> >
> > Drill Sargent Jocks:
> >
> > "OK!! NOW LISTEN UP MAGGOTS! THERE'S GOING TO BE A CONTEST
>
> > AT O-720. BUT FIRST, HERE'S DOMINATRIX
> > SPRINCE/MARY/SARA...."
> >
> > Dominatrix Traffic Reports:
> >
> > "Northbound I-5, you pathetic little twerps have some
> tanker
> > truck blocking the 44th Street exit in Lynnwood-is that
> > where you live LOSER? Now you are GOING to pull off at the
>
> > Alderwood Mall exit and drive that piece of s--t car of
> > yours over to AM/PM and get 2 cheeseburgers for just 99
> > cents! YOU HEAR ME??!! DON'T YOU MAKE ME HURT YOU AGAIN!!
> > WHAT? You don't have 99 cents?! BEND OVER!! This is
> it-BEND
> > OVER!! You're getting the cattle prod after you lick my
> > boots, boy!...."
> >
> > (I'm sure most female broadcasters would secretly LOVE a
> job
> > like this.)
> >
> >
> > Great idea! You're on to something!....Any others?
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
Horse Sense: What a horse has that keeps it from betting on people.

[email protected]


</P>
 
Re: If YOU had your own SATELLITE station....

The sky's the limit here
I'd have a different format EVERY HOUR!
 
Re: If YOU had your own SATELLITE station....

> The sky's the limit here
> I'd have a different format EVERY HOUR!

I had an idea for a stunting station. A PARODY of every popular radio format every hour.....
>
<P ID="signature">______________
Horse Sense: What a horse has that keeps it from betting on people.

[email protected]


</P>
 
I DO have my own station...

I missed the New Wave radio station in the Philippines that I grew up on so much that I brought it back myself with many of the original DJs, reuniting after 18 years:

http://www.live365.com/stations/xb_102

This is not boring automated radio. DJs host every show. Curious to see Larry's thoughts but I made a lifelong dream come true...<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by devorules on 10/13/05 06:36 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: I DO have my own station...

> I missed the New Wave radio station in the Philippines that
> I grew up on so much that I brought it back myself with many
> of the original DJs, reuniting after 18 years:
>
> http://www.live365.com/stations/xb_102
>
> This is not boring automated radio. DJs host every show.
> Curious to see Larry's thoughts but I made a lifelong dream
> come true...

CHEERS TO DEVORULES!! Got it on now! Sounds great! And it's in my Favorites list in my browser. Reminds me of KNHC, circa 1988. (Hell, this sounds better!) Great work!!

I've been pondering setting up my own internet station, but not through Live 365, I want more technical control over the pure aural nirvana you may be hearing possibly by next year. But such bliss cannot be rushed...

I firmly believe more than satellite, internet radio will one day give terrestrial radio it's biggest challenge once wi-fi becomes standard on home, portable and car radios, giving the listener THOUSANDS of entertainment choices. And since it's worldwide, every station can potentially have several hundred listeners at any given time. The fidelity of internet radio will probably rival satellite by this time also....

But this can create a renissance for LOCAL AM/FM radio with web feeds. Stations with a uniquely local identity do excellently in cyberspace. And they always will......




>
<P ID="signature">______________
Horse Sense: What a horse has that keeps it from betting on people.

[email protected]


</P>
 
Re: Programming the Imaginary

I like the picture you paint. I totally agree with point "A" in many respects. However, it's clear that you aren't factoring in the $$$$. You would be bankrupt pretty quick. Also, programming imaginary stations is definitely easier than the real thing. It's Not something that you can just jot down three or four points and then write "seems to me that you'd be able to stand up too..." I mean we're not talking about picking turkey or ham at subway. We're talking about Mass Media.

Let's say you get the "keys" to a station and start calling programing shots. Let's even say that you incoporate the changes you mentioned and LOW AND BEHOLD THEY WORK!!! They will only work for a little while. Every other station will react to your changes, new stations will come up, new indirect competitors will rise up, and even if the market changes are moving slow your "product/programming" will become stale within a few months. For example, those "bigger than life" promos will start sounding stale. People will get tired of "bigger than life" promos. It's true!! They will start wishing that you wouldn't make such a big fuss over your promo and just causually turn over the prizes or be more settle about your interaction with people. In sum, you need to understand that this Job is way way harder than you are making it sound.... It's Not a "seems to me" job....

> Two things have piqued my interest lately ... one is the
> thread on here about how people think the product has gone
> stale (or too corporate). The other is a question presented
> on a LA subscription service about "what causes you to stay
> in your car and not turn off the radio." In almost every
> answer the connection was something that was being done by a
> personality on the station -- it had nothing to do with a
> song (flip side of the question is what causes you to turn
> OFF your radio...and that had a lot to do with music and
> stale presentation).
>
> So...my question for those who want to step up....if you had
> a station that gave you the "keys" to do whatever you wanted
> (without fear of corporate retribution...) what would YOU
> give to the rest of us? It can be a stand-alone, a cluster,
> an AM or FM or satellite or net or whatever --- I just want
> to know if there are any lurking creative minds that would
> keep us in our car afraid to turn off the radio...!
>
>
> Mine would go something like this....
> a) Break away from the "more music" and "jukebox"
> competition. Set the expectation that you're not going to
> be 5 in a row or whatever. Get personalities that are SMART
> and, ideally, funny too -- but most of all, RELATABLE.
> Build a clock that has two or three song sweeps ... but also
> feature spots so you can do afternoon drive news, and add
> some depth (topic depends on who you're targeting). Short
> sweeps means more stopsets which can be shorter ... so you
> are asking people to sit through two or three spots at a
> time ... not 8 or 9.
>
> b) Develop an instant allergy to a decade or decades
> positioning. There's great new music and lots of great old
> music. Kind of nice if one station can deliver both. If
> you're doing 2 or 3 "contemporary" (recurrent, new or
> whatever...) and the rest outstanding favorites of all time
> ... drawing from a huge library ... you get a great big "oh
> wow" aspect to your library. But, remember it's not about
> the music -- it's about the entire content; most of which is
> locally-focused material that you can't get on XM or a pod.
>
> c) Bring back the "bigger than life" mindset. All the great
> early promotions were really basically cheesy --- but they
> were PACKAGED as the biggest thing to ever hit town; or else
> they were just plain "out there" and everyone recognized the
> bit was for fun and not a $2Million giveaway!! Dropping a
> piano in Qwest field to "hear what it sounds like" or weird
> stuff like that....just for fun. People like going to the
> "fun" parties, so why not create one that's around all week
> long?? Surprises on the air create the best TSL (it's the
> philosophy that drives Stern).
>
> Seems to me with a mix like that you'd be able to stand up
> against national services and pods and so forth that are
> focused on delivering "just the music". Radio's answer will
> NOT be "just the music" and the sooner we can figure out how
> to build something else's that's compelling --- we can save
> our own skin.
>
 
Money. When I started in radio there were four local TV channels (and networks), 4-5 decent AM's and maybe 6-8 FM's competing for the 8-10 percent of the revenue that radio grabbed in a local market. This was 25 years ago.

Today there's pay-per-view, TiVo, dozens of cable channels, Direct TV, Real, XM and Sirius, more (and more localized) print, I-Pods and the whole freaking Internet.

I can remember handing out thousand dollar bills to listeners tuned to our station or giving away cars every book (including Winters).

I'd highlight local. Give someone a hundred bucks for pointing out a new traffic problem on the 405. Got a news story!- get a coupon worth such and such from a sponsor...

Radio looks pretty cheap. Both Paul McCartney and The Stones are coming to town and there management is going to Wall St. for hype instead of the local music outlets. Yes those guys are old and they don't sell records but they're name brands OK. And any programmer who passes up an opportunity to attach there name to these quality artists, who've come out with decent records, is throwing that money away to non-music people.

Since the early 60's music radio has done, more or less, a good job at surviving. I thought that more localization would be the solution and I still feel that way. JACK (or for that matter any high profile music driven outlet) hasn't given me squat. KISW, EXP, PLU and the END are interesting but ... They're cheap. KISW for instance, with a much more focused programming approach and some serious cojones, could take the market by storm and yet they've got crappy talent and are now spending time hyping the return of another crappy talent (Ricker). There competition wouldn't know how to give away prizes either.

Note to Entercom, KISW is JUVENILE! That's a whole 'nother story I guess..
Radio is cheap. Always has been but now it really shows
 
Re: Programming the Imaginary

I totally appreciate your perspective ... my whole point of having the fantasy was to "assume away" all the things where reality creeps in and makes things less fun (we Economics graduates tend to assume all the IMPORTANT stuff away just to make our arguments seem more practical!!!). But ... I stand by my "pitch" in one key area: Start with a GERM of something that is "product first" and not "following the generally accepted rules" and I suggest that you'll end up with a product that has a MUCH better shot of winning than one conceived within the boundaries of the defined rules and so forth.

Yes...stations will react to changes, but there's also something to be said for starting a legacy and sticking with it long enough for the audience to follow. KIRO had that for a long time ... in the 70's KOMO and KVI had that even though their music was hardly competitive. Somewhere in the late 70's we decided music was everything and away went the core elements that made full-sevice stations number one (much had to do with FM taking over music). But in most markets today, the full-service (in the form of news/talk) are usually top 5 rankers -- so I'm thinking that some kind of combo format would have a chance???

Anyway...appreciate your observations & feedback to keep me realistic!!!!




> I like the picture you paint. I totally agree with point "A"
> in many respects. However, it's clear that you aren't
> factoring in the $$$$. You would be bankrupt pretty quick.
> Also, programming imaginary stations is definitely easier
> than the real thing. It's Not something that you can just
> jot down three or four points and then write "seems to me
> that you'd be able to stand up too..." I mean we're not
> talking about picking turkey or ham at subway. We're
> talking about Mass Media.
>
> Let's say you get the "keys" to a station and start calling
> programing shots. Let's even say that you incoporate the
> changes you mentioned and LOW AND BEHOLD THEY WORK!!! They
> will only work for a little while. Every other station will
> react to your changes, new stations will come up, new
> indirect competitors will rise up, and even if the market
> changes are moving slow your "product/programming" will
> become stale within a few months. For example, those
> "bigger than life" promos will start sounding stale. People
> will get tired of "bigger than life" promos. It's true!!
> They will start wishing that you wouldn't make such a big
> fuss over your promo and just causually turn over the prizes
> or be more settle about your interaction with people. In
> sum, you need to understand that this Job is way way harder
> than you are making it sound.... It's Not a "seems to me"
> job....
 
Re: If YOU had your own SATELLITE station....

> > The sky's the limit here
> > I'd have a different format EVERY HOUR!
>
> I had an idea for a stunting station. A PARODY of every
> popular radio format every hour.....
> >
>
This is how I would stunt a station(prior to the real format going on air), "more commercials, less music".<P ID="signature">______________
"I look out for me and mine."-Capt. Malcom "Mal" Reynolds in Serenity</P>
 
Breaking AWAY from "The Rules" - A NEW WORLD ORDER OF RADIO

Old World Order of Radio = Programming
New World Order of Radio = Strategic Image Construction

Old World Order of Radio = Product=Music....Radio=Gatekeeper of Records
New World Order of Radio = Strategic Image Construction....Radio=Local Entertainment package

Old World Order of Radio = Hot AC format would be 30 Min Music Mixs
New World Order of Radio = Hot AC format would be "the Young Women's Virtual Party Line"

Old World Order of Radio = Top 40=the current top 40 most played songs
New World Order of Radio = Top 40="you miss a day of listening...you miss the word on street for what's hip for that moment...the party is here"

I agree...with point A and your concept in General...

I'll leave at this for now....

>
I totally appreciate your perspective ... my whole point of
> having the fantasy was to "assume away" all the things where
> reality creeps in and makes things less fun (we Economics
> graduates tend to assume all the IMPORTANT stuff away just
> to make our arguments seem more practical!!!). But ... I
> stand by my "pitch" in one key area: Start with a GERM of
> something that is "product first" and not "following the
> generally accepted rules" and I suggest that you'll end up
> with a product that has a MUCH better shot of winning than
> one conceived within the boundaries of the defined rules and
> so forth.
>
> Yes...stations will react to changes, but there's also
> something to be said for starting a legacy and sticking with
> it long enough for the audience to follow. KIRO had that
> for a long time ... in the 70's KOMO and KVI had that even
> though their music was hardly competitive. Somewhere in the
> late 70's we decided music was everything and away went the
> core elements that made full-sevice stations number one
> (much had to do with FM taking over music). But in most
> markets today, the full-service (in the form of news/talk)
> are usually top 5 rankers -- so I'm thinking that some kind
> of combo format would have a chance???
>
> Anyway...appreciate your observations & feedback to keep me
> realistic!!!!
>
>
>
>
> > I like the picture you paint. I totally agree with point
> "A"
> > in many respects. However, it's clear that you aren't
> > factoring in the $$$$. You would be bankrupt pretty
> quick.
> > Also, programming imaginary stations is definitely easier
> > than the real thing. It's Not something that you can just
> > jot down three or four points and then write "seems to me
> > that you'd be able to stand up too..." I mean we're not
> > talking about picking turkey or ham at subway. We're
> > talking about Mass Media.
> >
> > Let's say you get the "keys" to a station and start
> calling
> > programing shots. Let's even say that you incoporate the
> > changes you mentioned and LOW AND BEHOLD THEY WORK!!!
> They
> > will only work for a little while. Every other station
> will
> > react to your changes, new stations will come up, new
> > indirect competitors will rise up, and even if the market
> > changes are moving slow your "product/programming" will
> > become stale within a few months. For example, those
> > "bigger than life" promos will start sounding stale.
> People
> > will get tired of "bigger than life" promos. It's true!!
> > They will start wishing that you wouldn't make such a big
> > fuss over your promo and just causually turn over the
> prizes
> > or be more settle about your interaction with people. In
> > sum, you need to understand that this Job is way way
> harder
> > than you are making it sound.... It's Not a "seems to me"
> > job....
>
 
Re: Breaking AWAY from "The Rules" - A NEW WORLD ORDER OF RADIO

> Old World Order of Radio = Programming
> New World Order of Radio = Strategic Image Construction
>
> Old World Order of Radio = Product=Music....Radio=Gatekeeper
> of Records
> New World Order of Radio = Strategic Image
> Construction....Radio=Local Entertainment package
>
> Old World Order of Radio = Hot AC format would be 30 Min
> Music Mixs
> New World Order of Radio = Hot AC format would be "the Young
> Women's Virtual Party Line"

Hmmm...not for those chicks who are into Sepultura and Iced Earth. Most of them ride motorcycles
>
> Old World Order of Radio = Top 40=the current top 40 most
> played songs
> New World Order of Radio = Top 40="you miss a day of
> listening...you miss the word on street for what's hip for
> that moment...the party is here"

Wrong. You still get that from KEXP...or ME these days....

What....you're looking at me like DIY indie rock, world pop, country/hip-hop fusion and traditional Burmese music aren't the hottest up and coming music trends in America today...

Sheesh! You guys are WAAAAYYY behind....
>
> I agree...with point A and your concept in General...
>
> I'll leave at this for now....
>
> >
> I totally appreciate your perspective ... my whole point of
> > having the fantasy was to "assume away" all the things
> where
> > reality creeps in and makes things less fun (we Economics
> > graduates tend to assume all the IMPORTANT stuff away just
>
> > to make our arguments seem more practical!!!). But ... I
> > stand by my "pitch" in one key area: Start with a GERM of
>
> > something that is "product first" and not "following the
> > generally accepted rules" and I suggest that you'll end up
>
> > with a product that has a MUCH better shot of winning than
>
> > one conceived within the boundaries of the defined rules
> and
> > so forth.
> >
> > Yes...stations will react to changes, but there's also
> > something to be said for starting a legacy and sticking
> with
> > it long enough for the audience to follow. KIRO had that
> > for a long time ... in the 70's KOMO and KVI had that even
>
> > though their music was hardly competitive. Somewhere in
> the
> > late 70's we decided music was everything and away went
> the
> > core elements that made full-sevice stations number one
> > (much had to do with FM taking over music). But in most
> > markets today, the full-service (in the form of news/talk)
>
> > are usually top 5 rankers -- so I'm thinking that some
> kind
> > of combo format would have a chance???
> >
> > Anyway...appreciate your observations & feedback to keep
> me
> > realistic!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I like the picture you paint. I totally agree with point
>
> > "A"
> > > in many respects. However, it's clear that you aren't
> > > factoring in the $$$$. You would be bankrupt pretty
> > quick.
> > > Also, programming imaginary stations is definitely
> easier
> > > than the real thing. It's Not something that you can
> just
> > > jot down three or four points and then write "seems to
> me
> > > that you'd be able to stand up too..." I mean we're not
> > > talking about picking turkey or ham at subway. We're
> > > talking about Mass Media.
> > >
> > > Let's say you get the "keys" to a station and start
> > calling
> > > programing shots. Let's even say that you incoporate
> the
> > > changes you mentioned and LOW AND BEHOLD THEY WORK!!!
> > They
> > > will only work for a little while. Every other station
> > will
> > > react to your changes, new stations will come up, new
> > > indirect competitors will rise up, and even if the
> market
> > > changes are moving slow your "product/programming" will
> > > become stale within a few months. For example, those
> > > "bigger than life" promos will start sounding stale.
> > People
> > > will get tired of "bigger than life" promos. It's true!!
>
> > > They will start wishing that you wouldn't make such a
> big
> > > fuss over your promo and just causually turn over the
> > prizes
> > > or be more settle about your interaction with people.
> In
> > > sum, you need to understand that this Job is way way
> > harder
> > > than you are making it sound.... It's Not a "seems to
> me"
> > > job....
> >
>
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> Just my half cent worth.
>
KOL 92.5 wrong I think it was 94.1 or 96.1
damm it man speak befor u talk uhuh think befor speak
 
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