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Illegal Power Alien Returns?

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oldiesfan6479

From the Lumberyard thread yesterday...

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oldiesfan6479 said:
Meanwhile, the KayFuNNsters still appear to be disregarding the monthly time specs, as
it would trash the last half of the oh-so-important "Moe Money Extravaganza." ::) The
apparent 1510 power drop was at 5:57:30 PM, almost half an hour late and conveniently
right after Moe kissed off today's show. The KayFuNN folks are of course invited to rebut
this by proving they really did drop power at 5:30...but some of us ain't buyin' it! The
signal strength (and the four bars on the Sangean 909 meter) was the same before 5:30
and up until the power drop was finally made.
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Maybe the dalliances of the KayFuNNsters needs its own thread again. This morning's
power-up was actually decent--6:57:31 AM. This afternoon however, they were again
almost half an hour late with power down--5:57:30 PM. "Moe Money" must be paying
mega $$$$ for his infomercial that they risk flaunting the rules. Maybe the San Diego
boys will pay another visit to the market soon. ;)
 
oldiesfan6479 said:
Maybe the dalliances of the KayFuNNsters needs its own thread again. This morning's
power-up was actually decent--6:57:31 AM. This afternoon however, they were again
almost half an hour late with power down--5:57:30 PM. "Moe Money" must be paying
mega $$$$ for his infomercial that they risk flaunting the rules. Maybe the San Diego
boys will pay another visit to the market soon. ;)
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how 'bout A Day In The Life Of A Defective Lamptimer?

KFuNN never got it right last year, so our hunch is they won't get it right this year and Mo Ansari receives the full 22kw Monty! Perhaps someone with less to do than the Buckeye Boyz can check 'em out on the weekend. Do they power down at the right time on Saturday and Sunday, or do paid programs trump the lamptimer?
 
Dr. Akbar said:
Do they power down at the right time on Saturday and Sunday, or do paid programs trump the lamptimer?
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This past weekend I didn't hear the actual power drop, however I still had the equivalent of the
daytime signal ("four bars" on the Sangean 909 meter) at 5:35 PM each day, while right about
6 PM it was night power (nothing audible in the 'Tuke).

As for tonight...it's hockey pucks, and...what have they done with Moe Money? :eek: Actually,
it seems KayFuNN 1510 is the hockey overflow station for conflicts on KGME 910 (guessing
that MNF has priority). So at 5:30, a hockey game broke out (what's the old joke about a
fight and a hockey game?) on 1510. Still apparently on "day power" at 5:47.
 
From SDRadio.net


KSPA, at 1510 AM, will increase their power to 50,000 watts days, 6 kw nights with a narrow window of 46,000 watts during critical time at sunrise and sunset.
The station will shift city of license to Chino from the present Ontario.
 
bob_international said:
KSPA, at 1510 AM, will increase their power to 50,000 watts days, 6 kw nights with a
narrow window of 46,000 watts during critical time at sunrise and sunset.
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The 6 kw-N DA app pattern plot on the FCC site appears to indicate a null toward KayFuNN,
as well as expected nulls toward Littleton, CO and Spokane:

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?stat...&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&EW=W&size=9

I didn't realize a class B (KSPA) had to protect a class D (KFNN), where its night authorization
is pretty much an afterthought in that it isn't even required to cover its COL (Mesa). Is there
another 1510 in the 90-100° direction from KSPA that is being protected?
 
oldiesfan6479 said:
I didn't realize a class B (KSPA) had to protect a class D (KFNN), where its night authorization
is pretty much an afterthought in that it isn't even required to cover its COL (Mesa). Is there
another 1510 in the 90-100° direction from KSPA that is being protected?
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They don't....the Class D's (KFuNN) have to accept skywave interference. KSPA's proposed 6kw dumps a lot of RF into Anaheim and Orange County at night. Very little goes east to protect KCKK in Denver. They're pumping 25kw toward the SSW at night http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KCKK&service=AM&status=L&hours=N

Does anyone think Art Astor (owner of KSPA) knows what the illegal power aliens at 15~Ten are up to?
 
Doing our part to stop the incessant cross-threadization... ;)

Dr. Akbar said:
But we suspect KFuNN will cite a defective lamptimer as the culprit behind their illegal power grab.
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The KayFuNN 1510 "lamptimer" does drift a bit--not as bad as Lumberyard 1440's
eleven seconds a day, but it's not atomically perfect. At the beginning of November,
when it was determined the KayFuNNsters were powering down about a half hour late
(for the absolutely critical reason ::) of being able to broadcast all of the high school
football game "Moe Money" Ansari at 22 gallons), the power drop was at 5:57:30 PM.
A day or two ago, it was at 5:57:26. Bad lamptimer!
 
Kinda interesting how the 15~Ten'ers get power change right half the day. Local sunrise in November at 7am and they go from 100w to 22kw with no problems. But at the other end of the day, local sunset at 5:30p and they wait until their paid programming is over at 6pm to power down. How do they do it? For the Buckeye Boyz answer, hold your monitor in front of a mirror.



T A E H C Y E H T
 
Speaking of illegal power aliens, what's up with our friends over in Mesa near the cemetery and KMIK? Apparently KMIK is throwing out a monster "Mickey Mouse" signal to the southwest, so much so that they are getting picked up as far away as, get this, Australia! :eek:

What is this all about? I knew 1580 had a good signal, but is it really good enough to be picked up in Australia? Congrats to KMIK for being one of the first Phoenix area radio station to be picked up on the other side of the Pacific.

You can see the discussion on the DX board here:

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=179512.10
 
asugeorge1 said:
Speaking of illegal power aliens, what's up with our friends over in Mesa near the cemetery and KMIK? Apparently KMIK is throwing out a monster "Mickey Mouse" signal to the southwest, so much so that they are getting picked up as far away as, get this, Australia! :eek:

What is this all about? I knew 1580 had a good signal, but is it really good enough to be picked up in Australia? Congrats to KMIK for being one of the first Phoenix area radio station to be picked up on the other side of the Pacific.

You can see the discussion on the DX board here:

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=179512.10
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Totally legal. Here is their nighttime pattern. Great signal to San Diego, Rocky Point, and Australia. Not so great to parts of Glendale, north Snobsdale, and south Chandler.
 
Come Wednesday 12/01, the KFuNNsters can keep that 22kw illegal undocumented power setting on a full 45 minutes after local sunset at 5:15pm. hmmmm...one of these days they're gonna get caught :eek:
 
At 7:00:02 this morning, the KayFuNN signal went from inaudible to...audible,
so one has to guess they powered up half an hour early.
 
The fez-wearers at the Media Hut guessed correctly--the KayFuNNsters were indeed
45 minutes late with power down this first day of December, at 6:00:06 PM.

KayFuNN's (fake) response:
"But Moe Money is as crucial to us as high school football games are to daytimers
in Tennessee. Moe is practically EAS-worthy. We're sure the FCC won't mind." ::)
 
So today the folks over at KFNN had a legitimate reason to stay on day-time power until 6:00 P.M. For whatever reason, the Coyotes hockey game against the New York Rangers was moved from 910 AM to KFNN, and that extra 45 minutes of 22,000 watts came in handy so us Coyotes fans could hear the first period of the game. Funny enough, once KFNN powered down to their night-time authorization of 100 watts, the Coyotes hockey game was not listenable throughout most of the valley, especially the East Valley where a majority of their fan base is.

Hopefully having Coyotes games on KFNN does not become a regular thing or else the Coyotes may end up moving to Hamilton, Ontario after all! ;D
 
At 5:23 PM today there was no KayFuNN to be heard on 1510. :eek: I'm not sure if they
for once switched to night power/pattern on time (or reasonably close to on time) or
if the station is off the air. Hard to tell in the 'Tuke; I'm hearing at least two signals
fighting it out through the ether--one sounds like music, the other jock talk. Probably
KSPA Ontario and KCKK Littleton.

Did they finally get a visit from the men in dark suits and fedoras, driving a black '51
Ford "Fordor" sedan with a loop antenna on the roof?

Still no evidence of the KayFuNNsters at 5:55. Wow, good thing this didn't occur on a
weekday--Moe Money would be livid his entire show wasn't delivered with 22 gallons.
He might even look for a new Phoenix market affiliate. No, stay away from our beloved
Lumberyard! (Never mind. I think the Goldmine is safe, since they do dump carrier at
the lamptimer's version of 5:15 PM.)
 
oldiesfan6479 said:
At 5:23 PM today there was no KayFuNN to be heard on 1510. :eek: I'm not sure if they
for once switched to night power/pattern on time (or reasonably close to on time) or
if the station is off the air. Hard to tell in the 'Tuke; I'm hearing at least two signals
fighting it out through the ether--one sounds like music, the other jock talk. Probably
KSPA Ontario and KCKK Littleton.

Did they finally get a visit from the men in dark suits and fedoras, driving a black '51
Ford "Fordor" sedan with a loop antenna on the roof?

Still no evidence of the KayFuNNsters at 5:55. Wow, good thing this didn't occur on a
weekday--Moe Money would be livid his entire show wasn't delivered with 22 gallons.
He might even look for a new Phoenix market affiliate. No, stay away from our beloved
Lumberyard! (Never mind. I think the Goldmine is safe, since they do dump carrier at
the lamptimer's version of 5:15 PM.)
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Nurse Jeff was washing the Gremlin behind the Media Hut HQ Saturday afternoon and confirms that KFuNN waited until 6pm to power down. Even though Moe Money doesn't air on 15~Ten weekends, The Motley Fool is just as worthy to risk an FCC fine. We'll try to listen around 6pm on Monday to find out if this was an anomaly, or the black Fordor paid the KFuNNsters a visit.
 
The KayFuNNsters sure like that 6 PM power down--even if it's not "Moe Money"
on the air. Those weekend shows must be just as crucial as ol' Moe in terms of
"needing" the 22 gallons. ::)

Today's (January monthly) 5:45 PM power down was at 5:59:51.
 
I find it so funny people actually care and will make note of when they power down. Wow wish I had that much time on my hands ;-)
 
Some people freak out over power up/power down times, others freak out if
there's no "dance station" in their market. ;)
 
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