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I'm a part-timer how do I convince the boss to put me on Full-time?

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I'm a weekender looking for a full-time gig.
What's the best way to convince my boss to give me a chance at a full-time gig?
 
Young Grasshopper said:
I'm a weekender looking for a full-time gig.
What's the best way to convince my boss to give me a chance at a full-time gig?

1. Ask for it.
2. Prove why you deserve it.
3. If the opportunity doesn't exist at your station, might be time to mail out packages and find a full-time gig.
 
Aircheck.

Every day.

Try to get your boss to critique at least one aircheck a week. Be eager to learn, and follow direction to the best of your ability.

In short, make your boss your mentor.

Remember, the boss is always right - at least until you get a new boss.

PS - Learn how to write without creating a run-on sentence like the one in your subject line.
 
Young Grasshopper said:
I'm a weekender looking for a full-time gig.
What's the best way to convince my boss to give me a chance at a full-time gig?

Kiss ass. Find a weak full timer. Get dirt on said weak full timer. Stab said weak full timer in the back.

At least that's how we did it in the good ole days.
 
Australian Whine said:
Young Grasshopper said:
I'm a weekender looking for a full-time gig.
What's the best way to convince my boss to give me a chance at a full-time gig?

Kiss ass. Find a weak full timer. Get dirt on said weak full timer. Stab said weak full timer in the back.

At least that's how we did it in the good ole days.

How immature. :(

R
 
Young Grasshopper said:
I'm a weekender looking for a full-time gig.
What's the best way to convince my boss to give me a chance at a full-time gig?

Tape everything, listen to it and have others listen and critique you. Be ready, and take advantage of every opportunity.
 
Rico's response is perfectly succinct. Take the advice. =)

Best of Luck,

Matt =)
 
Prove yourself. I'm not saying to necessarily kiss ass, but I am saying... prove yourself.

Be that one guy willing to drop his plans at a moments notice when somebody is needed to do something for the station, and be that one guy who doesn't bitch when your duty is to take out the trash. Do all assigned tasks promptly, and with pride. How you act means alot to a PD.
 
go across the street and get a full time gig there......most programmers have such a hard time finding good part time talent, they never promote from within.
 
Robert Bass said:
Australian Whine said:
Young Grasshopper said:
I'm a weekender looking for a full-time gig.
What's the best way to convince my boss to give me a chance at a full-time gig?

Kiss ass. Find a weak full timer. Get dirt on said weak full timer. Stab said weak full timer in the back.

At least that's how we did it in the good ole days.

How immature. :(

R

I agree. So's this. If the full timer you've targetted for the kill is single, divorced, or just horny as hell, find a phone pig with a really sexy voice, and pay her to work the schlub for dirt about his personal life - opinions about co-workers - anything you can use to help quicken the kill. With three way calling, you can get the dirt on tape and play it for the PD.
 
Kiss ass. Find a weak full timer. Get dirt on said weak full timer. Stab said weak full timer in the back.

At least that's how we did it in the good ole days.


How immature.

It would be if he were serious, for criminy's sake. It was a joke...and a funny one. People with a sense of humor are too friggin' few and far between in this miserable world. Lighten up, Francis.
 
Young Grasshopper said:
I'm a weekender looking for a full-time gig.
What's the best way to convince my boss to give me a chance at a full-time gig?

My advice to you is to work your ass off. Ask for any type of work. Work, Work, Work. Paid or Unpaid. You will be building your resume and showing your PD or OM that you are a hard worker etc... Plus, offer to voicetrack for other stations in your cluster (If there are any). Offer to work on the station website (If you have the knowledge). Whatever you think you can do for the station... offer to do it. I was part-time for a about a year and a half before getting on full-time. I was making NO MONEY... so I got two other jobs. However, I was lucky becuz the other two jobs knew that if I had an opportunity to work for the station...pick up a shift, do a remote etc... I needed to take it. Now I am full-time. I am APD for one station...where I also do a full shift during the week... plus all the station imaging, website design etc... and I pull a weekend shift another station.


If you want it... you have to do whatever it takes to get it.
 
That's a GREAT reference!

Thanks, Jeff. Yeah, while I was typing that post, Warren Oates' face suddenly popped into my head. It just seemed so apropos.

Fozzie Bear's right on the money, Grasshopper. In fact, it sounds like our backgrounds are similar, which should give credibility to what we're saying. Go to your boss (don't wait for him to ask), let him know what you want, and volunteer for stuff. Anything. Even if it's breaking down cardboard boxes and making coffee (although it sounds like you might be past that point since you're already on the air, but you get the idea). Even if he politely declines your offer because he doesn't feel you're qualified to do what you're offering to do, volunteer anyway...he might say "yes," you never know. What you've gotta do is SHOW him/them (you'll doubtless get the GM's attention in the process) that you're a DOER, something this industry craves and needs. ESPECIALLY if you're willing to do whatever it is WITHOUT putting it on a timecard. NOTHING gets management's attention quicker and more effectively (and makes a good impression) than something (or, in your case, SOMEONE) that benefits his/her company and doesn't cost them a thin dime, or that doesn't charge for every second they're doing something for the station. When I started out in radio, I put in an entire YEAR of free work as an intern at the station in my hometown. Later on, when a shift opened up, they remembered how hard I was willing to work (and learn), and my PD (with whom I'm still good friends today) approached ME and asked if I was interested in it. After a coupla years doing that, I got a job offer from a top-rated AM station in a rated market, and within a year (7 months to be exact), parlayed THAT into a full-time gig on the FM sister. You just have to be persistent, don't wait for someone to ask you to do stuff, and put elbow grease and diligence where your mouth is.

And now, time for me to go watch "Stripes" again for the 9 billionth time...

Jeff: I'll give Sergeant Hulka your regards. ;D
 
OVERvaluable part-timers?

Can you be SO valuable as a PT that they wouldn't consider putting you on FT?

I mean, if you're the main go-to guy for overnights, fill-ins, holidays, could you be so valuable in that position the PD/APD wouldn't consider it? - asked the newbie, dusting off his resume.
???
 
PT, flexible=job security

Young Grasshopper said:
I'm a weekender looking for a full-time gig.
What's the best way to convince my boss to give me a chance at a full-time gig?

If you like working in radio, 'Hopper, you actually may be safer in a PT position (I know I'm kind of answering my own previous post here) given some shake-ups in our market.

The morning team at one of the local classic rock stations was just let go. Rumor is that management wasn't impressed with their numbers given that the other classic rocker, absent a morning show, was creeping up on them in the last couple of books. Even the ratings leader here just nuked a co-host, then instituted a hiring freeze.

Stay flexible, stay available and you'll be an invaluable asset, no doubt.

Now... where did I put that resume?
 
ok, everything that the previous posts have said are on target. If those things don't work, THEN and ONLY THEN tell the boss that if he will hire you full time you will quit sleeping with his wife and daughters. There is an old addage: If you haven't been fired in radio then you really don't have enough experience. I guarantee my suggestion will get you fired.. That means you can tell the PD accross the street that you are a real pro because you were fired for sleeping with your boss' wife and daughter. good luck to you
 
If the advise is:

Work for nothing in hopes you might be hired fulltime.
Work hard, knowing at any moment your position could be eliminated.
Stay flexible, stay available and expect LOW wages.

My advise would be, run Forest run!!!!!!!!!!!

Go back to school, get a degree in something worthwhile that pays well.
Do radio as a hobby.
 
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