It looks like they have all formats covered in that city now. 2 hip hop, 2 top40, 1 dance station, Jackfm, The new oasis, a few alternative stations, some spanish stations except superestella. Vegas has come a long ways in radio. I remember they had boring stations before. Props to vegas radio. I'm liking 104.3 now, 94.5 the vibe, 93.1 the party and 105.7 the oasis.
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I'm thinking Vegas has better radio stations
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I just returned from a Vegas Vacation and also took notice of the variety of listenable stations there.socamex26 said:
* Have always been impressed with MIX 94.1, which is better than Star 98.7 here ever was, and is better IMHO than our My104.3.
* The Alternative 107.9 is better and not as hard rocking as KXTE 107.5, but is not as good as it was a couple years back when it was much more indie oriented. This is similar to LA where we have 2 alt rockers slogging it out
* The new Q at 106.9 has an unusual mix of music (simulcast on AM 670 on weekends). That is a new station that is still finding itself, so for now it makes for an interesting listen as it has not yet found a cookie cutter format to occupy. Closest thing we have to a station in search of itself is Jill 92.7
* Dance music is quite well represented with 93.1 (the former KOOL oldies), 94.5, and KVEG 97.5 (one of the top stations in the market). KHHT is the closest LA has (with a partial nod to KPWR), but we have been without real dance options since Movin, KBIG, and KDL jettisoned their formats.
* NOW 104.3 is giving heritage CHR KLUC 98.5 a good challenge. KAMP here launched the 2 CHR per market trend that Las Vegas is now following.
* KJUL 104.7 means that Las Vegas is one of the few markets that still has a Standards station on FM - would be nice if KGIL here was available on FM (besides the side HD channel it is currently on - that reaches a tiny sliver of the intended audience)
* The Point at 97.1 is a former AAA station that is now deeply married to its classic rock approach, similar to KSWD's recent evolution
* Jack 100.5 (KKJJ) has been in format for a few years - replacing what had been a second tier AC in the market - Magic 100.5. Rumors swell about how long Jack will remain in format there, unlike Jack 93.1 here which is one of LA's strongest stations
* KKLZ 96.3 is doing quite well with its Classic Hits format, similar to the healthy nature of KRTH
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musicman3355
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The radio in LA and Vegas is kinda the same pretty much, but yeah I wish we had a dance station here... at least Las Vegas and Seattle had their dance stations do great. Besides, LA radio could've been worse... it could be like Boston radio, they only have 1 top 40 and 1 rhythmic station, thats pretty much it. The rest are news/talk/sports/alternative (not saying thats bad, but there's way too much of it).
I agree with you right there. Power 106 got pretty lame now, it just sounds like another top 40 and it doesn't go hardly urban unlike their sister Hot 97 in NYC. KIIS-FM is much better than AMP IMO, AMP is boring since they don't let their DJs talk and don't have mixes.
socamex26 said:
I agree with you right there. Power 106 got pretty lame now, it just sounds like another top 40 and it doesn't go hardly urban unlike their sister Hot 97 in NYC. KIIS-FM is much better than AMP IMO, AMP is boring since they don't let their DJs talk and don't have mixes.
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ericdxx
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What you don't have in Las Vegas is the big star morning shows Bill Handel and Ryan Seacrest and you don't have influential stations like KROQ and KIIS. You do have a great menu of formats though.
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musicman3355
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ericdxx said:
Ryan Seacrest does air on local station 93.1 The Party... only he's on from 3-6pm instead of mornings.
Neel Mehta said:
KROQ is "preventing" others from trying alternative because they've been dominating the market and the format for such a long time, and the only company willing right now to spend the money and effort necessary to present a full-on attack to such an entrenched station is Clear Channel on 98-7, and over the past few months, KROQ and 98-7 have been fairly neck and neck in cume with 98-7 occasionally coming out on top. Previous competitors like Y107 and Indie 103.1 were hindered by signal issues.
There is a difference between alternative and active rock, and KROQ is a good example of a typical alternative station, but to be quite honest, I'm not seeing huge glaring differences between KROQ's playlist and KXTE's playlist right now with the exception of some titles and artists here and there. I appreciate the fact that KROQ isn't all Mudvayne/Disturbed/Avenged Sevenfold all the time. While the format has a few different flavors, KROQ shares a lot of its playlist and sound with many stations across the format like 91X in San Diego, The End in Seattle, Live 105 in San Francisco, X96 in Salt Lake City, FM 102/1 in Milwaukee and The Edge in Phoenix, just to name a few. (Not that sounding different from other stations is a bad thing.)
If you want an example of a good active rock station, you should check out KBPI in Denver, KUPD in Phoenix, WAAF in Boston, WRIF in Detroit or 98 Rock in Tampa or Baltimore. If you want to hear the difference between alternative and active rock, keep flipping between KXTE and KOMP in Vegas.
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ericdxx
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musicman3355 said:
Yea that's not the same show, that's not the "real thing".
You're right, and my music tastes are move toward the avenged/mudvayne/slipknot sound so I've never been completely satisfied with KROQ's playlist....but I guess i'm in the minority when it comes to that in LA (although I really think there could be an audience out there, it just hasn't been tried in years).
What confused me is X103.9 calls it itself the "IE's alternative" but they are really a hybrid of alternative and active rock and I've always compared the two stations with each other.
What confused me is X103.9 calls it itself the "IE's alternative" but they are really a hybrid of alternative and active rock and I've always compared the two stations with each other.
Neel Mehta said:
Like I said, the Alternative format has a few different flavors, and what flavor shows up in which city depends on the market makeup and the competitive landscape. While there are lighter-leaning Alt stations like KROQ (which is actually pretty middle of the road -- super-light-leaning Alt stations include KNRK in Portland and WEQX in Albany, NY), there are also heavier-leaning ones like X103.9, WRZX in Indianapolis, The End in Charlotte or The Edge in Dallas. X103.9 has to compete against KCAL, plus there's bleed-in from KROQ and 98-7, so the PD (and consultant, if they have one) probably decided to lean the station harder in order to compete better in that situation.
What you need to look at are not just the currents, but also the recurrents and gold. An Active Rock might share a fair amount of titles with an Alternative, but after playing a Three Days Grace or Breaking Benjamin current (which are top 10 at both formats right now), an Active Rock might play a Rush, Van Halen, Motley Crue or Ozzy Osbourne track, while an Alternative would go into an older Weezer, Alanis Morissette, Jimmy Eat World or Sublime track.
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