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IMHO, What's wrong and right with Jack

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954

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What's wrong and right with Jack

The fact that the Jack format is popular is
basically a testament to the gullability of the
American public and its innate need to be popular.

The way I understand it, Jack is for people who
don't care what genre of music is played, as long
as it was a hit. In other words, they have no
taste, no personal preferences, no favorite genre,
no experience. They just want to listen to songs
that are popular with everyone else, according
to the word of testers and consultants.

There's nothing wrong with a mix of different
genres, if that's what you want. I've transferred
all my CDs to my PC so I can listen to a random
mix of oldies, classical, jazz, country, big band,
folk, reggae, opera, and comedy, with no effort.
But they're all songs I picked before uploading
them.

I once had a girlfriend who probably would have
loved the Jack format. We'd go to a restaurant and
she's ask the waitress what's popular. She
wouldn't look for something she liked on the menu.
She'd defer to public opinion to choose what she
would eat.

That's the type of consumer who likes Jack. Maybe
that's ultimately good for advertisers, because
listeners with no minds of their own will be
especially receptive to their messages. Just
remember stress how everybody likes your product
or service!

Hey, if you're making money in the jack business,
good for you. Congratulations!! But if I meet
someone on the street and she says her favorite
station is Jack, you know my first impression
will be "airhead!"

73s from 954
 
I'd like to respond to your thoughts:
> What's wrong and right with Jack
>
> The fact that the Jack format is popular is
> basically a testament to the gullability of the
> American public and its innate need to be popular.

I would tend to agree with the gullability factor, but, I'd also like to point out a casual observation from when I was out of the business for a number of years: no one that I know of listens to just ONE genre of music. Not one single person in my whole life's experience listened to just ONE style of music. Not even my grandparents.
>
> The way I understand it, Jack is for people who
> don't care what genre of music is played, as long
> as it was a hit. In other words, they have no
> taste, no personal preferences, no favorite genre,
> no experience. They just want to listen to songs
> that are popular with everyone else, according
> to the word of testers and consultants.

To be contrary again, I think some could rightly argue that Jack is actually for people who care about the QUALITY of music played more than the genre. So, yes, there can be room for a station that plays (God forbid) George Jones and Peter Gabriel in the same hour (but it better be programmed right to carry it off)! Jack listeners do, they would argue, have taste AND personal preferences and musical experience. Their genre Jack proponents would argue is GOOD MUSIC, music that surpasses classification and artists that surpass genre (Johnny Cash is a great example).
>
> There's nothing wrong with a mix of different
> genres, if that's what you want. I've transferred
> all my CDs to my PC so I can listen to a random
> mix of oldies, classical, jazz, country, big band,
> folk, reggae, opera, and comedy, with no effort.
> But they're all songs I picked before uploading
> them.

I fear you have just noted the impetus to the Jack format and its derivatives. As a matter of fact, if there were a way to get statistical information about downloaded tunes for mp3 players and computers in my market and I were PD, I would subscribe to that data immediately if I knew it was accurate and not tampered with by publishers/distributors.

>
> I once had a girlfriend who probably would have
> loved the Jack format. We'd go to a restaurant and
> she's ask the waitress what's popular. She
> wouldn't look for something she liked on the menu.
> She'd defer to public opinion to choose what she
> would eat.

Some Jack listeners, yes. But I think if you did the research, you'd find the same to be true of some of the Stern listeners, some of the Rick and Bubba listeners, even some of the listeners to your very own station. Why else would we do promotions to get people talking about our station?
>
> That's the type of consumer who likes Jack. Maybe
> that's ultimately good for advertisers, because
> listeners with no minds of their own will be
> especially receptive to their messages. Just
> remember stress how everybody likes your product
> or service!
>
> Hey, if you're making money in the jack business,
> good for you. Congratulations!! But if I meet
> someone on the street and she says her favorite
> station is Jack, you know my first impression
> will be "airhead!"

And thank God we live in a nation in which you can say it, and in which she can respond "geezer." :)
>
> 73s from 954
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by gregdymon on 02/09/06 12:08 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> I'd like to respond to your thoughts:
> > What's wrong and right with Jack
> >
> > The fact that the Jack format is popular is
> > basically a testament to the gullability of the
> > American public and its innate need to be popular.
>
> I would tend to agree with the gullability factor, but, I'd
> also like to point out a casual observation from when I was
> out of the business for a number of years: no one that I
> know of listens to just ONE genre of music. Not one single
> person in my whole life's experience listened to just ONE

What about the married ones?

;-)

> style of music. Not even my grandparents.

Nor do I. (As mentioned further down, in bold.)
But I can't imagine anyone with half a brain
liking just EVERYTHING that's a hit -- from
any one genre or all of them -- and not
exercising any discrimination or judgement!

> > The way I understand it, Jack is for people who
> > don't care what genre of music is played, as long
> > as it was a hit. In other words, they have no
> > taste, no personal preferences, no favorite genre,
> > no experience. They just want to listen to songs
> > that are popular with everyone else, according
> > to the word of testers and consultants.
>
> To be contrary again, I think some could rightly argue that
> Jack is actually for people who care about the QUALITY of
> music played more than the genre. So, yes, there can be room

Popularity is not necessarily the same as quality.
You should have learned that bu your age.

> for a station that plays (God forbid) George Jones and Peter
> Gabriel in the same hour (but it better be programmed right
> to carry it off)! Jack listeners do, they would argue, have
> taste AND personal preferences and musical experience. Their
> genre Jack proponents would argue is GOOD MUSIC, music that
> surpasses classification and artists that surpass genre
> (Johnny Cash is a great example).
> >
> > There's nothing wrong with a mix of different
> > genres, if that's what you want. I've transferred
> > all my CDs to my PC so I can listen to a random
> > mix of oldies, classical, jazz, country, big band,
> > folk, reggae, opera, and comedy, with no effort.
> > But they're all songs I picked before uploading
> > them.
>
> I fear you have just noted the impetus to the Jack format
> and its derivatives. As a matter of fact, if there were a
> way to get statistical information about downloaded tunes
> for mp3 players and computers in my market and I were PD, I
> would subscribe to that data immediately if I knew it was
> accurate and not tampered with by publishers/distributors.

I like pizza and I like sundaes. But that doesn't mean
I want them on the same plate at the same time.

> > I once had a girlfriend who probably would have
> > loved the Jack format. We'd go to a restaurant and
> > she's ask the waitress what's popular. She
> > wouldn't look for something she liked on the menu.
> > She'd defer to public opinion to choose what she
> > would eat.
>
> Some Jack listeners, yes. But I think if you did the
> research, you'd find the same to be true of some of the
> Stern listeners, some of the Rick and Bubba listeners, even
> some of the listeners to your very own station. Why else
> would we do promotions to get people talking about our
> station?
> >
> > That's the type of consumer who likes Jack. Maybe
> > that's ultimately good for advertisers, because
> > listeners with no minds of their own will be
> > especially receptive to their messages. Just
> > remember stress how everybody likes your product
> > or service!
> >
> > Hey, if you're making money in the jack business,
> > good for you. Congratulations!! But if I meet
> > someone on the street and she says her favorite
> > station is Jack, you know my first impression
> > will be "airhead!"
>
> And thank God we live in a nation in which you can say it,
> and in which she can respond "geezer." :)

Did I mention anything about age?

Opinionated old fart, maybe, but hardly geezer.

> > 73s from 954
 
>
> The way I understand it, Jack is for people who
> don't care what genre of music is played, as long
> as it was a hit. In other words, they have no
> taste, no personal preferences, no favorite genre,
> no experience. They just want to listen to songs
> that are popular with everyone else, according
> to the word of testers and consultants.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that...I'd say it appeals to people who may like individual songs, but are probably not into artists or just one genre. For example, rock radio is very artist-oriented, country music fans tend to be into the genre (witness how many country songs are about being "country"). Jack is (ideally) more like CHR was until the 90s when it became a narrow genre into itself....aimed at listeners who like what they like, regardless of who does it.
 
> > And thank God we live in a nation in which you can say it,
>
> > and in which she can respond "geezer." :)
>
> Did I mention anything about age?
>
> Opinionated old fart, maybe, but hardly geezer.
>
> > > 73s from 954

I tried to listen to Jack in Central Indiana, but kept hearing "Sweet Child of Mine" by Guns'N Roses within 10 minutes of tuning in. Not that I don't like Axl and the boys, just not interested in hearing it that often on a station that's supposed to have a "wide variety" of music. Haven't really tried it lately. Originally thought it sounded like the experimental stations I would hear when I used to visit a friend in Los Angeles in the early 80s. "Black Dog" followed by "Stop in the Name of Love."

( 954--glad you're back on the wagon.)
>
 
> What's wrong and right with Jack
>
> The fact that the Jack format is popular is
> basically a testament to the gullability of the
> American public and its innate need to be popular.
>
> The way I understand it, Jack is for people who
> don't care what genre of music is played, as long
> as it was a hit. In other words, they have no
> taste, no personal preferences, no favorite genre,
> no experience. They just want to listen to songs
> that are popular with everyone else, according
> to the word of testers and consultants.
>
> There's nothing wrong with a mix of different
> genres, if that's what you want. I've transferred
> all my CDs to my PC so I can listen to a random
> mix of oldies, classical, jazz, country, big band,
> folk, reggae, opera, and comedy, with no effort.
> But they're all songs I picked before uploading
> them.
>
> I once had a girlfriend who probably would have
> loved the Jack format. We'd go to a restaurant and
> she's ask the waitress what's popular. She
> wouldn't look for something she liked on the menu.
> She'd defer to public opinion to choose what she
> would eat.
>
> That's the type of consumer who likes Jack. Maybe
> that's ultimately good for advertisers, because
> listeners with no minds of their own will be
> especially receptive to their messages. Just
> remember stress how everybody likes your product
> or service!
>
> Hey, if you're making money in the jack business,
> good for you. Congratulations!! But if I meet
> someone on the street and she says her favorite
> station is Jack, you know my first impression
> will be "airhead!"
>
> 73s from 954
>


I'm curious if you have ever heard a JACK station before? I know there are no VH stations in South Florida (or anywhere in Florida for that matter?). I have a total different take on the format and it's listeners. I would never think anyone listening to JACK is an airhead, I think it's cool that they enjoy such a wide variety of genres and decades of hit music.
Your analysis misses one of JACKS greatest assests...playing songs that haven't been heard on the radio for years. I love hearing songs like "Sweetheart" by Frankie and the Knockouts, "Drivers Seat" by Sniff N the Tears or "Please Don't Go" by KC just to name a few examples. I punch out of JACK when I hear songs that can be heard on other stations and songs that have been played out through the years, "Sweet Child O Mine" or anything at all from John Mellencamp for example. Although I understand why they play those songs and artists, all spice and no "meat and potatoes" would burn out very very quick.

As for variety of hits Vs. "true variety" of music. Variety Hits is a musical adventure, Variety non-Hits would be a ratings disaster, far too unfamiliar to attract a mass audience. It's fine for someone's personal music collection but not viable as a radio format.
 
> So where's what's right with Jack? I guess nothing?

Uh... I really don't know.

Nothing that I am aware of, except...

My theory is that listeners who choose Jack
have not yet developed any strong preferences
and are highly susceptible to advertisers'
messages. That's good!

OTOH... It kind of reminds me of an
almost-forgotten episode of some sitcom in
which someone is referred to as "shallow as
a saucer". It may have been a friend of
Mindy's on Mork & Mindy.

If you have no preference of genre and you're
only prerequisite for songs is that they must
be popular ... you can't get much more shallow
than that.

That's like someone who only eats hamburgers.
If you only eat the most popular foods, you're
missing out on a lot.

When I listen to an oldies station and hear
a song I haven't heard in 30 or 40 years I am
happily surprised. It's been many years since
I've heard a surprise on what passes for oldies
around here today. Their hits playlist is so
narrow I probably have a better selection in
my record collection. And I probably haven't
listened for more than 15 minutes at a time
in years! Bor-ing!

Anyone who has an MP3 player -- or even just a
PC with sound card -- can make up a much better
playlist with his own CDs without listening
to all the commercials on a Jack station.

Bob Marley, Frank Sinatra, Helen Kane, Devo,
Johnny Cash, Allan Sherman, Glenn Miller,
Bob Wills, and Billie Holiday all recorded
hits. I have all but Devo represented on
my PC or in my record collection. How many
of them are featured on your friendly
neighborhood Jack station?
 
> I'm curious if you have ever heard a JACK station before? I
> know there are no VH stations in South Florida (or anywhere
> in Florida for that matter?). I have a total different take

No. I'm basing this on the concept.

> on the format and it's listeners. I would never think anyone
> listening to JACK is an airhead, I think it's cool that they
> enjoy such a wide variety of genres and decades of hit
> music.
> Your analysis misses one of JACKS greatest assests...playing
> songs that haven't been heard on the radio for years. I love

Why can't an oldies station or a country
station do this then?

The only time our country stations played Johnny
Cash was the day he died.

One would think that a genre station could also play
songs that haven't been heard on the radio for years --
even more so.

But people like Dave always say that you can't do that.

73s from 954
 
Jack

What you're missing is when it comes to business, the goal of any company is to fulfill the needs and expectations of it's customers. There was an obvious demand for a hit-based format not constrained by typical radio boundaries, Jack answered and, in a majority of it's launches, is successful.

Your characterization of people who like Jack/VH format is like saying because McDonald's food is designed to be relatively cheap, fast and for mass consumption that anybody that eats there must be less than worthy. They may not have the greatest quality food, the best atmosphere or teriffic service but they fill an expectation for a place you can get in & out of quickly without killing your budget and the food's somewhat acceptable.

I'll tell ya- this whole anti-Jack thing can be puzzling at times but usually it crystalizes really easy for me: those who hate it have always been the first to piss & moan about assembly-line, cookie-cutter radio; then, Jack comes along with a really different package and these same people whine because it isn't what radio "is supposed to be". It's outside of their thought process, therefore it must be a bad thing (plus, the fact most have no jocks so far, I believe, contributes about 50% of the ill will toward Jack- insecure or frustrated jocks see their chances at getting or staying in the biz as diminished).

And you wonder why radio has been losing listeners to alternative sources.

> What's wrong and right with Jack
>
> The fact that the Jack format is popular is
> basically a testament to the gullability of the
> American public and its innate need to be popular.
>
> Hey, if you're making money in the jack business,
> good for you. Congratulations!! But if I meet
> someone on the street and she says her favorite
> station is Jack, you know my first impression
> will be "airhead!"
>
> 73s from 954
>
 
Jack

This whole "gullability factor" is a bunch of smoke.

So, you're all saying that any product that's really different and unusual that gets consumers to use it must have nothing but gullible customers?

You're way overthinking all of this- Jack is another new radio format and a lot of people like it. What's wrong with that (other than the fact that, for a miriad of reasons, you don't get the format and therefore don't like it)?
>
> I would tend to agree with the gullability factor, but, I'd
> also like to point out a casual observation from when I was
> out of the business for a number of years: no one that I
> know of listens to just ONE genre of music. Not one single
> person in my whole life's experience listened to just ONE
> style of music. Not even my grandparents.
> >
> > The way I understand it, Jack is for people who
> > don't care what genre of music is played, as long
> > as it was a hit. In other words, they have no
> > taste, no personal preferences, no favorite genre,
> > no experience. They just want to listen to songs
> > that are popular with everyone else, according
> > to the word of testers and consultants.
>
> To be contrary again, I think some could rightly argue that
> Jack is actually for people who care about the QUALITY of
> music played more than the genre. So, yes, there can be room
> for a station that plays (God forbid) George Jones and Peter
> Gabriel in the same hour (but it better be programmed right
> to carry it off)! Jack listeners do, they would argue, have
> taste AND personal preferences and musical experience. Their
> genre Jack proponents would argue is GOOD MUSIC, music that
> surpasses classification and artists that surpass genre
> (Johnny Cash is a great example).
> >
> > There's nothing wrong with a mix of different
> > genres, if that's what you want. I've transferred
> > all my CDs to my PC so I can listen to a random
> > mix of oldies, classical, jazz, country, big band,
> > folk, reggae, opera, and comedy, with no effort.
> > But they're all songs I picked before uploading
> > them.
>
> I fear you have just noted the impetus to the Jack format
> and its derivatives. As a matter of fact, if there were a
> way to get statistical information about downloaded tunes
> for mp3 players and computers in my market and I were PD, I
> would subscribe to that data immediately if I knew it was
> accurate and not tampered with by publishers/distributors.
>
> >
> > I once had a girlfriend who probably would have
> > loved the Jack format. We'd go to a restaurant and
> > she's ask the waitress what's popular. She
> > wouldn't look for something she liked on the menu.
> > She'd defer to public opinion to choose what she
> > would eat.
>
> Some Jack listeners, yes. But I think if you did the
> research, you'd find the same to be true of some of the
> Stern listeners, some of the Rick and Bubba listeners, even
> some of the listeners to your very own station. Why else
> would we do promotions to get people talking about our
> station?
> >
> > That's the type of consumer who likes Jack. Maybe
> > that's ultimately good for advertisers, because
> > listeners with no minds of their own will be
> > especially receptive to their messages. Just
> > remember stress how everybody likes your product
> > or service!
> >
> > Hey, if you're making money in the jack business,
> > good for you. Congratulations!! But if I meet
> > someone on the street and she says her favorite
> > station is Jack, you know my first impression
> > will be "airhead!"
>
> And thank God we live in a nation in which you can say it,
> and in which she can respond "geezer." :)
> >
> > 73s from 954
> >
>
 
Hit The Road, Jack

> What you're missing is when it comes to business, the goal
> of any company is to fulfill the needs and expectations of
> it's customers. There was an obvious demand for a hit-based
> format not constrained by typical radio boundaries, Jack
> answered and, in a majority of it's launches, is successful.

Could it possibly be at least partly because existing
formats have been screwed up so badly?

> Your characterization of people who like Jack/VH format is
> like saying because McDonald's food is designed to be
> relatively cheap, fast and for mass consumption that anybody
> that eats there must be less than worthy. They may not have
> the greatest quality food, the best atmosphere or teriffic
> service but they fill an expectation for a place you can get
> in & out of quickly without killing your budget and the
> food's somewhat acceptable.

Lousy analogy. Many people go to McD because
of either time or financial constraints that
prevent going elsewhere. What's the similar
excuse for Jack?

> I'll tell ya- this whole anti-Jack thing can be puzzling at
> times but usually it crystalizes really easy for me: those
> who hate it have always been the first to piss & moan about
> assembly-line, cookie-cutter radio; then, Jack comes along
> with a really different package and these same people whine
> because it isn't what radio "is supposed to be". It's

Jack is the ultimate cookie-cutter radio.

> outside of their thought process, therefore it must be a bad
> thing (plus, the fact most have no jocks so far, I believe,
> contributes about 50% of the ill will toward Jack- insecure
> or frustrated jocks see their chances at getting or staying
> in the biz as diminished).

Ahhh...blow it out your amplifier.

> And you wonder why radio has been losing listeners to
> alternative sources.

IMHO, shallow deejay-less radio with no personality
is reason #1. Radio with either no personality or
no local content isn't half as good as my record
collection.

> > What's wrong and right with Jack
> >
> > The fact that the Jack format is popular is
> > basically a testament to the gullability of the
> > American public and its innate need to be popular.
> >
> > Hey, if you're making money in the jack business,
> > good for you. Congratulations!! But if I meet
> > someone on the street and she says her favorite
> > station is Jack, you know my first impression
> > will be "airhead!"
> >
> > 73s from 954
 
So I guess you're deal is that you're superior because ypou listen to all different genres of music at once. If only the great unwashed shared your tastes..I'm not suree what would happen. Like it or not, the vast, vast, vast majority of a radio audience is not made up of music geeks, people who listen to a CD once and only once then throw it out the car window, or others who hate all the hits and only listen to their personal collection of non-hits. Jack does fill a need for a little broader playlist of hits, not stiffs. And, yes, a lot of the complaints are the jockless presentatioj because maybe your or my dulcet tones can't be on these stations.
 
Hit The Road

All of your responses smack of a sour grapes anti-corporate radio mentality.
It's really obvious you hold great disdain for the approach, therefore there isn't anything we can say to you that you'd even consider objectively. This whole fake radio snob "anybody who likes Jack must be an airhead"- GAG ME!

Your initial SUBJ line was pretty misleading, since all you'll do is diss the format.

(and I'll be the earlier post is right- you've probably never spent much time listening to a Jack/VH station anyway, so your opinion is quite uninformed).
 
Re: Hit The Road

> All of your responses smack of a sour grapes anti-corporate
> radio mentality.

Considering the negative tone of 99% of your
postings, I think that's kind of funny from you.

> It's really obvious you hold great disdain for the approach,
> therefore there isn't anything we can say to you that you'd
> even consider objectively. This whole fake radio snob
> "anybody who likes Jack must be an airhead"- GAG ME!

That's not what I said.

But why should that stop you?

> Your initial SUBJ line was pretty misleading, since all
> you'll do is diss the format.

Wrong. You must read more carefully. I've said twoce
recently that it's good for advertisers, because of
the impressionable audience.

> (and I'll be the earlier post is right- you've probably
> never spent much time listening to a Jack/VH station anyway,
> so your opinion is quite uninformed).

Wow... you got something correct, Cat!

I've already said that I've never heard it, and my
comments are based on the concept. It's not heard
in this market.

WJNA does what it calls "adult hits" -- mixing
good stuff with songs that make me switch the
station -- and I'm confident that jack is worse.

Or aren't I entitled to have an opinion, Cat?
 
> So I guess you're deal is that you're superior because ypou
> listen to all different genres of music at once.

Weren't you the one who said that most people like
more than one genre? So how does this translate into
being superior?

>If only the
> great unwashed shared your tastes..I'm not suree what would
> happen.

Then there would never be another oldies or jazz
or classical station. Not good.

> Like it or not, the vast, vast, vast majority of a
> radio audience is not made up of music geeks, people who
> listen to a CD once and only once then throw it out the car
> window, or others who hate all the hits and only listen to
> their personal collection of non-hits. Jack does fill a need

You are definitely weird.

Besides, my old car has a cassette player.

> for a little broader playlist of hits, not stiffs.

Oh, so anything not in the top 40 of the year is a stiff?
Nope.

> And, yes,
> a lot of the complaints are the jockless presentatioj
> because maybe your or my dulcet tones can't be on these
> stations.

Like I said, without a person there and some
local content, it's no better than my record
collection -- or Muzak.

73s from 954, listening to jazz of the 1920s
 
Re: Hit The Road

> > All of your responses smack of a sour grapes
> anti-corporate
> > radio mentality.
>
> Considering the negative tone of 99% of your
> postings, I think that's kind of funny from you.
>
> > It's really obvious you hold great disdain for the
> approach,
> > therefore there isn't anything we can say to you that
> you'd
> > even consider objectively. This whole fake radio snob
> > "anybody who likes Jack must be an airhead"- GAG ME!
>
> That's not what I said.
>
> But why should that stop you?
>
> > Your initial SUBJ line was pretty misleading, since all
> > you'll do is diss the format.
>
> Wrong. You must read more carefully. I've said twoce
> recently that it's good for advertisers, because of
> the impressionable audience.
>
> > (and I'll be the earlier post is right- you've probably
> > never spent much time listening to a Jack/VH station
> anyway,
> > so your opinion is quite uninformed).
>
> Wow... you got something correct, Cat!
>
> I've already said that I've never heard it, and my
> comments are based on the concept. It's not heard
> in this market.
>
> WJNA does what it calls "adult hits" -- mixing
> good stuff with songs that make me switch the
> station -- and I'm confident that jack is worse.
>
> Or aren't I entitled to have an opinion, Cat?
>
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This started on the National board

> > Or aren't I entitled to have an opinion, Cat?

> you are entitled to have an opinion but if you diss the
> format on its board it is pathetic

Agreed.

When I started the thread it was on the national
board.

I mentioned good and bad points of Jack.
My opinions.

I didn't think this board was an appropriate
place for it, assuming there would be mostly
Jack fans here. So I was correct.

I didn't move it here.

Should I just ignore other people's personal
attacks on me because some moderator decided to
move it here?

Or isn't there any place for my point of view?

What do you think?
 
The Road

Of course you are- but your reasoning sometimes doesn't make sense. You'll sort of intimate that it's good for advertisers but in the next breath make fun of the format or its listeners. None of that matters- if consumers like it, it should be accepted (even if we may not like it or agree with it).

My posts are 100% honest- many who email me privately would not agree I'm 99% negative, just not afraid to call them as I see them and call out others when I think they're being misleading or full of it.

>
> Or aren't I entitled to have an opinion, Cat?
>
 
Re: The Road

> Of course you are- but your reasoning sometimes doesn't make
> sense. You'll sort of intimate that it's good for
> advertisers but in the next breath make fun of the format or
> its listeners. None of that matters- if consumers like it,

Not inconsistent with each other.

Listeners who have no preferences are the
most receptive to advertising.

> it should be accepted (even if we may not like it or agree
> with it).
>
> My posts are 100% honest- many who email me privately would
> not agree I'm 99% negative, just not afraid to call them as
> I see them and call out others when I think they're being
> misleading or full of it.

Honesty and negativity are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

Anyway ...

Thank you ... for a friendly, straight-forward, and
non-negative answer!

73s from 954

> > Or aren't I entitled to have an opinion, Cat?
 
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