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Imus comentary

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truthsayer

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If the word "ho" is so offensive to some. they need to take a look at the music and culture around them. There seems to be a double standard that irritates the hell out of me.

Where this goes wrong is not with the word, but the double standard implied here.

The music that broadcast every hour on Rap formats nationwide is disgusting whether you are black, white, hispanic, or whatever. If you have any decency at all you know this is a fact. I do not agree the N- word is ok as long as it's used in a black to a black senerio. The word is wrong period! The word is all over rap stations, this is where the problem lies.

Words are not defined ok to use in certian racial groups. They are wrong or right to use period! It is the fault of poor standards this country has adapted. The time has come to change!

Mr. Imus made a stupid comment he has paid dearly for and has gracfully apoligized. Though as of ten minutes ago our airwaves are full of trash and smut lowering the standard more.

When Americans wake up and meet their neighbor we might just make friends. Broadcasters need to meet the people they serve and find the real soul that burns to acomplish and show pride. The hate from the past can't hold a people back in the future. People let's get it together.

Very Respectfully
 
Well said. Good luck getting any of the rap stations to change, unless a vocal advocate such as Jesse or Al take them on as well, and I don't see that happening.
 
The most interesting things about this whole controversy to me are:

Imus makes $14 million a year for his employers.

Imus contributes a good portion of his income to and raises more via his influence for the
Imus Ranch, a cancer retreat for children in New Mexico

His once a year radiothon raises nearly a million for charity.

SO, A HANDFUL OF BLACK GIRLS got their feelings hurt by his admitted stupid comment. They'll get over it.

Now here are the pressing questions:
1) How's the employer going to make its $14 million next year?

2) Where are the cancer children going to go when there is no funding for the Imus ranch?

3) How are the charities going to make up the shortfall next year when there's no radiothon?
 
Bill Cherry said:
The most interesting things about this whole controversy to me are:

Imus makes $14 million a year for his employers.

Imus contributes a good portion of his income to and raises more via his influence for the
Imus Ranch, a cancer retreat for children in New Mexico

His once a year radiothon raises nearly a million for charity.

SO, A HANDFUL OF BLACK GIRLS got their feelings hurt by his admitted stupid comment. They'll get over it.

Now here are the pressing questions:
1) How's the employer going to make its $14 million next year?

2) Where are the cancer children going to go when there is no funding for the Imus ranch?

3) How are the charities going to make up the shortfall next year when there's no radiothon?
There no bad words on Hip hop Stations ( Clean Version ) . If you dont like rap music, DONT BUY RAP MUSIC ! 75% Rap music buyers , are White People . 1 out of 3 C D's sold, are Rap C D's . When it come to Rap music, Come on,Come On, Love me for The Money , Money Talks .
 
rapking said:
Bill Cherry said:
The most interesting things about this whole controversy to me are:

Imus makes $14 million a year for his employers.

Imus contributes a good portion of his income to and raises more via his influence for the
Imus Ranch, a cancer retreat for children in New Mexico

His once a year radiothon raises nearly a million for charity.

SO, A HANDFUL OF BLACK GIRLS got their feelings hurt by his admitted stupid comment. They'll get over it.

Now here are the pressing questions:
1) How's the employer going to make its $14 million next year?

2) Where are the cancer children going to go when there is no funding for the Imus ranch?

3) How are the charities going to make up the shortfall next year when there's no radiothon?
There no bad words on Hip hop Stations ( Clean Version ) . If you dont like rap music, DONT BUY RAP MUSIC ! 75% Rap music buyers , are White People . 1 out of 3 C D's sold, are Rap C D's . When it come to Rap music, Come on,Come On, Love me for The Money , Money Talks .

That's what it's all about these days. Just because it makes money, and most of the customers are white, that makes it ok?! And, even though it is a "Clean" version, you still know what the words are. A lot of it just gets scratched over and you know what the lyrics are talking about. I've been doing Urban/Urban AC radio for almost 18 years now. I used to love Rap, when Kurtis Blow, Sugarhill Gang, Whodini and others were rapping, because it was actually music and the lyrics were PG/PG-13. Now they're just taking beats or old school songs and mixing and screwing them, and adding vulgar and violent lyrics. There are all sorts of studies and such, that say that most people who get caught up in the Hip-Hop lifestyle are more proned to arrested for drugs and violence. And, yes sometimes it IS racist cops, because I've seen it first hand. But as DL Hughley said not too long ago, "if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, it's an MF Duck." I'm not going to throw every rapper under the bus here in my assessment, but there is a huge problem in the Hip-Hop Community and it's not getting better, it's getting worse.

Why is Bill Cosby one of the only African-Americans outraged about the behavior of the teens and twenty-somethings in the Hip-Hop community?! Where is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson on trying to do something about it?! You can't be out there telling people how to clean up their house, if your house is a mess. And, it is! I'm tired of seeing young African-American men (and women) go to jail, because of this lifestyle. I'm tired of seeing these artists like Biggie Smalls, Tupac, and others die WAY TOO Young, because of this. I know a Mother, here in Houston, who lost both of her sons to senseless violence in the Hip-Hop community. "Because it makes money" That makes it right?! Imus's show made millions of dollars for CBS and NBC, it didn't make his comments right and he lost his job because of it. But, he didn't make up that phase either. As he pointed out, it was perpetuated in the movie "SCHOOL DAZE", by Spike Lee. If these African-Americans, who are outraged at Imus's comments (and others) want ignorant white people who use these comments, to stop saying them, then why don't you stop saying them yourself. It is a tremendous double standard of monumental proportions. Groups like Earth Wind & Fire, Isley Brothers, The O'Jays, Teddy Pendergrass and more didn't have to use salty language and slang to sell music. They did it with great music and great lyrics. Sure the times have changed, but real music is timeless. The Rap & Hip-Hop community can make these changes and still sell millions of records. It has to be EVERYONE'S responsibility to clean up our words and actions. I said it before, Imus was wrong, but so is the Hip-Hop community for perpetuating this. And, it's not just African-Americans, but it's Whites, Hispanics, and even Asian Americans who celebrate these stereotypes. It's wrong and it's time to change, before there are serious consequences down the road.
 
Re: Imus comentary/reply to Rap king

You are making my point. The blame game seems to be the only defense from the otherside. I don't care who buys it. The stuff reeks with filth even the clean version. The word cherry is a nasty term found on the clean version!
I believe you are a good person. If your Grandma was in the same room with you would you still listen to the clean version?

If the music passes your smell test then you can not be offended by Imus. You can not have it both ways.

If your driving down the road listening to your IPOD or radio too this clean or nasty version then you have a taste for it and it must not bother you.

You must then agree with me that Imus was unfairly treated.

Listen to your Grandmother think about it my friend.

Your friend!
 
Truthsayer--- The "smell test" is a bad way to determine if a radio comment is good or bad. There are a lot of great movies I would not want to watch with my mom or my kids. But I'll watch them with my girlfriend and friends. Because I don’t watch a movie with my kids doesn’t make it a bad movies, just not appropriate for the situation.

This notion that everyone is riding around with their kids is ridiculous! Using your method we would all be listening to Radio Disney! I for one think that anyone who listens to Imus or Stern or even Bubba the Love Sponge needs to understand what the show is all about and determine if they should listen in front of kids, elders or anyone else who might be offended. I like having choices. Having a small group of people tell me that something is not appropriate for the radio does not fly. What’s next? Books?

Dave E. Crockett
www.dxsradio.com
 
Rap King. Any way you position it, Rap is crap!
If your honest with yourself..you'd admit it.
If your a fan of rap, which version do you listen to?
You'll buy the crap version, and listen to it on the air clean, knowing
what's been badly edited out.

How sad is it to see those living the lifestyle. Kids with pants hanging down,
caps sideways, sporting the attitude! Buying into the culture that is mainly
manufactured by media (videos, music, mtv).
The mood of the country is changing. The Imus incident is yet another
catalyst that will change how people feel about what is happening in this
country. When a large portion of the population begins to demand change in
life, be it governmental, attitudes, common decency..a change will be coming.
Rap, in years to come, will be similar to looking back at disco..what the heck
were we thinking?
 
When will society get tired of the rapper/gansta violent image and demand the videos stop promoting it? It's all fine make a guy like Imus adjust his attitude. but where is the moral compass when it comes to the hip-hop music industry? By the way, teh latest poll in NEWSWEEK cclaims 75% of those poled think Imus should NOT HAVE BEEN FIRED.

Clearly Al and Jessie do not prepresent the masses.


Dave Crockett
www.dxsradio.com
 
Recently, conservative black commentator Larry Elder said that a very small percentage of black Americans go along with Al and Jesse. There are many conservative black Americans you do not hear about because the mainstream media ignores them to concentrate on those who are on the 'left.' They want you to think all black Americans go lock step with those on the left.

As far as the way the so called 'thugs' wearing their pants without a belt, they look rediculous. They hold on to their crotch to keep their pants from falling down. Although, I have to say I enjoy it very much when I watch "COPS" and these thugs run from the police, only to be tripped up by their own pants.

I'm with you, Dave E. I'm tired of it, too. I am moving soon, because of the 'thug' activity in my complex. My wife and I have been confronted on seperate occasions by these unsavory characters. I got a crime report on this area which reflected about a 33% surge in crime, including murder, rape (several) aggravated assault, robbery and the all time favorite, breaking and entering. This so called 'culture' begats this type of behaviour.
 
So it didn't take long for this to start circulating over the Internet:

There will only be 49 states represented in this year's Miss America contest because no one wants to be Miss Idaho.
 
Re: Imus comentary/reply to Mr. Crockett

Thanks for your reply. You are correct it may not have been the best example. I hope it made a point anyway. I really am upset at what seems to be a double standard. Using the F word is a foul word for every race I think. There can not be a double standard. Oh yea let me check with Grandma! She said correct!


Note: You live in my neighborhood and the Pick Up you drive is sharp advertising. I hope you have all the best of luck!


Another thing quickly, all this talk about the word ho, then we find out the same week that don ho passed away.

Too much for me!
 
I loved Don Ho. And Tiny Bubbles.
And Idaho - both the state and indeed, the vegetable form.
Well, back to my regularly scheduled non-programming.
Edie
 
edie golightly said:
I loved Don Ho. And Tiny Bubbles.
And Idaho - both the state and indeed, the vegetable form.
Well, back to my regularly scheduled non-programming.
Edie
Interestingly not many people mentioned the passing of Don Ho. I thought that it was extremely ironic that he chose this particular week to have cashed his chips in.

Even more interesting is that Don fully admitted to being a Ho. Further, his wife was a Ho, and his daughters were a couple of the biggest Hos on the entire island...and he never minded them being called Hos. In fact, you could say that Don was proud to be a Ho, and was not offended in the least that Don Imus used the word.
 
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