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Imus in the Morning

My local cable network just recently added the Fox Business Channel which also airs the "Imus in the Morning Show."

Besides looking like he has one foot in the grave, this program hasn't changed one bit since Imus was fired from MSNBC for making racial remarks.

After two days of listening to Imus inform his audience how rich he is, plus airing lame segments with his cadre of less than stellar comedians, I decided enough was enough and no longer watch the show.
 
Are you saying:

(a) Didn't like him then; don't like him now?
(b) Didn't listen then; don't like him now?
(c) Did like them; don't like him now?

Me: I did like him then. Don't like him as much now. He has hung on too long and lacked the good sense and good grace to go out on top. Same can be said of Rush. And if Howard is really thinking of making a comeback, I hope he is paying attention.

Imus at the top of his game would not have crawled to the Reverend Al or gone to the team and apologized. The old Imus would have ridden the bucking bronco.
 
The Voice of Reason said:
My local cable network just recently added the Fox Business Channel which also airs the "Imus in the Morning Show."

Besides looking like he has one foot in the grave, this program hasn't changed one bit since Imus was fired from MSNBC for making racial remarks.

After two days of listening to Imus inform his audience how rich he is, plus airing lame segments with his cadre of less than stellar comedians, I decided enough was enough and no longer watch the show.

It took you two whole days of listening to come to that conclusion?
 
Talk_Dude said:
The Voice of Reason said:
My local cable network just recently added the Fox Business Channel which also airs the "Imus in the Morning Show."

Besides looking like he has one foot in the grave, this program hasn't changed one bit since Imus was fired from MSNBC for making racial remarks.

After two days of listening to Imus inform his audience how rich he is, plus airing lame segments with his cadre of less than stellar comedians, I decided enough was enough and no longer watch the show.
It took you two whole days of listening to come to that conclusion?

I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I thought Imus might of had a bad day. But when he was doing the same routines the second day I watched I said the hell with it.
 
As a former radio newscaster I found it somewhat amusing that (now three) cable TV networks had to resort to airing a radio program in an attempt to garner ratings.

For years I loathed the idea of some radio stations opting to air local TV news just so they didn't have to hire radio newscasters.
Granted there are some stations that can't afford, nor desire, to have a person, or persons, to write, gather, and broadcast local news. So I figured that "Imus in the Morning" was radio's revenge on the dismantling of numerous local news departments throughout the country.

As for the Imus show itself; I have to agree that the show does become a bit 'stale' after a while.

How many times must the listening audience be made aware that Mr. Imus is a millionaire who is driven around New York City in a limousine; has an Ipad which can pick up satellite television; and charters private jets to fly him to his ranch in New Mexico?

Yet one must give Mr. Imus credit for battling his personal demons, overcoming controversial (and quite honestly racist ) remarks, and lasting as long as he has in a major market.
 
Mark_Giardina said:
As a former radio newscaster I found it somewhat amusing that (now three) cable TV networks had to resort to airing a radio program in an attempt to garner ratings.

I'm not sure the main motivation was to garner ratings. Think of all the money they save in not staffing their own show. And it's at a time when viewership for cable is pretty low. Fox Business Channel is on maybe 20% of the cable systems, and usually in an out-of-the-way location. Some cable channels might run movies or re-runs. They get original and live content at a bargain price. I'm surprised more don't do it.
 
The Voice of Reason said:
My local cable network just recently added the Fox Business Channel which also airs the "Imus in the Morning Show."

You're here on TWC Rochester, aren't you, Voice? It's carried FBN from the first day it was on the air...not that anyone's much noticed.
 
Scott Fybush said:
The Voice of Reason said:
My local cable network just recently added the Fox Business Channel which also airs the "Imus in the Morning Show."

You're here on TWC Rochester, aren't you, Voice? It's carried FBN from the first day it was on the air...not that anyone's much noticed.

It is on channel 119. But I just upgraded to digital recently and never noticed that FOX business was even carried by TW.
 
As a daily viewer of "Imus In The Morning", I agree with some of what's been posted, and take issue with other items.......

Sure...after decades, Imus is staying within his comfort zone, and, yes, some of the bits have become stale. I still find much of Rob Bartlett's work quite funny. Tony Powell can be funny.

But the main reason I watch the show is for Imus' interviews, especially when he gets lucky with a booking, like earlier this week with Fred Dicker the day after he became national news, or N.Y. Gov. Patterson in the midst of his scandal. Imus still asks more of the questions I would like answered than most interviewers, and he's not afraid to call out "B.S.!" when he senses a con job.

It should also be remembered that many of his most entertaining guests fled in April, 2007, never to return, and it has been difficult to find steady replacements. I thought when the Rev. Jesse Jackson phoned in to "Imus" on Martin Luther King's birthday to reflect, a notice of sentence served had been issued....but that wasn't the case.

The FBN simulcast is far superior than the trite, at times cheap look of the MSNBC effort - much less the product shown on RFD-TV.

The notion that FBN is saving tons of cash, however, doesn't make a lot of sense to me.....the show currently features two FBN anchors providing frequent live business updates during spot blocks as well as within the content, plus there's a full tech and stage crew operating. I don't see much savings.

But the one point I have to ask is this: does someone out there really think that Rush is so past his prime that he's outdated? While there may be some truth to the argument that Rush is not quite as fresh as he once was, he's a national focal point, a buzzword in and of himself. Sure...when you provide 90% or more of the content of three live hours five times a week, you're gonna have some weak spots or off days....but who else out there is bringing in his numbers?

Hell, even a Clear Channel in the midst of sucking all the profits out while deconstructing under its massive debt - a story some author should really explore, considering how so many of their stations were virtual money printing operations for years - thought it prudent to give Rush a huge extended contract to lock him up as long as possible.

Who's gonna replace him - Hannity? Nope.

What it all comes down to is this: Leave the old pro alone....if he bothers you, if his stuff isn't amusing or doesn't make you think, shut the damn radio off, kill the WABC stream.

And, a parting shot: many times, in this hypersensitive world of 2010, we think a comment is, or might be, "racist", when, in fact, it is "racial", or a reflection of perceptions. I do hope Imus brings back Dick Gregory and other social commentators to continue the dialog on racial issues in America that Imus pledged to explore upon his return to the airwaves. I'm certain that probably doesn't help his ratings a bit, but, in some ways, it goes back to what radio was supposed to do - serve in the public interest. Plus, Gregory can be a scream.
 
BurnedOutOnTheBoards said:
Hell, even a Clear Channel in the midst of sucking all the profits out while deconstructing under its massive debt - a story some author should really explore,

Huh? "Some author?" Do you know how many books have been written on this subject? And for what purpose? Do you think the government is going to intervene? Writing a book today makes less impact than being on the air at a 1 share station.

Rush gets money because he makes money. That's very simple. Same with most highly rated morning shows at CC. It's still very common to have top-rated morning guys making high six figure salaries. Sure, the rest of the day is VT. But as the Imus show says every day in its closing credits, that's the revenue generating portion of the broadcast day.

Same thing with Imus. Say what you will about CC, but the I-man works for a company that actually filed for bankruptcy. Yet they made sure that his contract was continued, and he didn't take a cut.
 
TheBigA said:
Think of all the money they save in not staffing their own show. And it's at a time when viewership for cable is pretty low...

It should be noted that Fox Business actually still does a business news program at the same time Imus is on the air, "Fox Business This Morning" - which is streamed exclusively on Fox Business' website, however. I've seen FBN run promos for the show. Though I'm not sure how much of a difference of the production costs there is between the Internet-only business show, and Imus' FBN predecessor, "Money For Breakfast."
 
As far as I know, BigA, there have only been two books covering Clear Channel in depth, and one of those was bought and paid for by CC. I'd love to see the chronological details of how that mega-corporation managed to take several mini-monopolies, suck the life blood out of them, then started shedding and shredding itself for sale bait, and still have billions in debt.

And, I must disagree......many books do tend to be a bit more influential than a 1 share station. Not that there is anything wrong with small share stations...I've worked for one that has failed to hang on to a 1 share, and I worked for a heritage station and cluster that remains near #1 in my market.

You see, I believe that given America's and the world's economic situation, the classic commercial radio model may just be somewhat profitable in the short term, since - if my guess is accurate - some bright businessperson could market radio as a cheap or "free" alternative....and that biz whiz could sure learn a lot about how to - or not to - f*** up radio by studying CC's rise and beleaguered recent past.

True, Clear Channel's over-expansion - and its almost deadly effect on localism, the development of talents from local markets, and their profits-now-over-long-term-viability - is really an old story.....so many corporations have a burst of success, then think they can expand everywhere, until their massive debt kills the company.

I could be wrong, but I believe the streaming "Fox Business This Morning" was dropped a while back, shortly after the on-air version disappeared in early May, 2010. I know I haven't heard a mention of it in a long time during "Imus", and that used to be promoted constantly.
 
BurnedOutOnTheBoards said:
As far as I know, BigA, there have only been two books covering Clear Channel in depth, and one of those was bought and paid for by CC.

Nope. Quite a few more. Most of them focus on the Minot incident. Do a search on Minot and you'll come up with a few.

BurnedOutOnTheBoards said:
I'd love to see the chronological details of how that mega-corporation managed to take several mini-monopolies, suck the life blood out of them, then started shedding and shredding itself for sale bait, and still have billions in debt.

It's all in the public record. Every purchase was approved by the FCC, the Justice Department, and the FTC. So they all have records of the transactions.

I think your view ignores the 25 years of changes in radio laws that weakened the value of stations, coupled with the changes in TV programming, leading to increased audience for TV in key dayparts, coupled with a generational change from boomers raised on radio to Gen Xers who sought out more personalized content. CC didn't operate in a vacuum. The overall changes in the media environment led to the changes they made.
 
TheBigA said:
I think your view ignores the 25 years of changes in radio laws that weakened the value of stations, coupled with the changes in TV programming, leading to increased audience for TV in key dayparts, coupled with a generational change from boomers raised on radio to Gen Xers who sought out more personalized content. CC didn't operate in a vacuum. The overall changes in the media environment led to the changes they made.

Joke in Robert Feder's column this morning:
What's the difference between Clear Channel and the drive-through window at McDonalds?
The kid at the drive-though window is live and local.

@BigA: Which is the chicken and which is the egg? Did Clear Channel respond to the changes you mention or did it contribute to them? Baby boomers grew up with both radio and TV but who cares? Most have left the money demos. Was the audience drawn to other options or was it no longer drawn to radio? Did Gen Xers seek more personalized content because radio lacked the personality and personalities it once had? Clear Channel was focused on cutting costs, not on showmanship (and selling).
 
MattParker said:
@BigA: Which is the chicken and which is the egg? Did Clear Channel respond to the changes you mention or did it contribute to them? Baby boomers grew up with both radio and TV but who cares? Most have left the money demos. Was the audience drawn to other options or was it no longer drawn to radio? Did Gen Xers seek more personalized content because radio lacked the personality and personalities it once had? Clear Channel was focused on cutting costs, not on showmanship (and selling).

That's a good question, and obviously depends on specific markets. But generally speaking, CC didn't really make any significant programming changes at local stations until after 2004. In the early years of their ownership, the stations remained with the same air staffs. Gen X grew up during the 80s and early 90s, which pre-dates the 96 Act. At that time, rock radio was ignoring the grunge movement, which was big with Gen X. So I'd say, generally speaking, Gen X made its mind up about radio before 1996.
 
MattParker said:
Joke in Robert Feder's column this morning:
What's the difference between Clear Channel and the drive-through window at McDonalds?
The kid at the drive-though window is live and local.

I don't find it funny. There are lots of kids at that same level working at virtually every CC station in the country. Hiring a high school kid just because he's live & local may work for McDonalds, but you don't want to put that same kid on the air, not do you want him dealing with community leaders, or handling sales clients. Feder shows his lack of actual broadcasting experience in making that analogy.
 
Well.....we've all done it again - and I was partly to blame.....

This is an "Imus In The Morning" thread, and we all moved way off base......

I'll start a new thread, "The CC Debate", where we really should continue this conversation.....
 
Getting back to Imus, I wonder how much longer he's going to continue with his show? After all the guy is going on 71 years old.
 
As long as he wants to. He's still 17 years younger than Betty White.
Mike Wallace retired at 88. Paul Harvey made it to 90.
The guy still draws an audience. I admit he plays better on radio these days.
 
I think Imus will go as long as he can....if for no other reason than funding The Imus Ranch.

Actually, where I live I have the option of either listening to Imus live on a local AM or watching the FBN broadcast, and I much prefer the TV show....unlike MSNBC or RFD, FBN has added considerably more production value to the presentation.

MattParker - You're, as usual, spot on - let's not dip into any of that politically incorrect age discrimination.....but I have to admit, I sure wish Imus could do something about that damn cough of his....
 
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