IMUS Should have never....

[scoop4you]

Apologized!

plain and simple. He should have said, F U and No when asked.

its pathetic! He did nothing wrong...its nothing anyone else on radio let alone himself has done a hundred times. And it wasn't racist. That's the insane part. Saying someone has nappy hair while you are making fun of the way they look is NOT RACISM!

Al Roker is a fat baldy! Is that racist? Lots of black guys shave their heads. Does that make the statement "Al Roker is a fat baldy" a racist statement? Of course not.

This is ONLY NEWS because it happened in NYC and the news stations picked it up and kept pushing it into everyone face until it was news.

Imus..take back the apology. Its your job!

 

[mostb1]

Apologized!

plain and simple. He should have said, F U and No when asked.

its pathetic! He did nothing wrong...its nothing anyone else on radio let alone himself has done a hundred times. And it wasn't racist. That's the insane part. Saying someone has nappy hair while you are making fun of the way they look is NOT RACISM!

Al Roker is a fat baldy! Is that racist? Lots of black guys shave their heads. Does that make the statement "Al Roker is a fat baldy" a racist statement? Of course not.

This is ONLY NEWS because it happened in NYC and the news stations picked it up and kept pushing it into everyone face until it was news.

Imus..take back the apology. Its your job!

You are as bad as he is. Another Archie Bunker. Yes, what he said was sexist and racist against POWERLESS INNOCENT women of color. And one of the women on the Rutgers basketball team said she has been scared for life because of this. You need racial sensitivity training BADLY.

You also don't have a clue as to how this story has played out from day one. And you're repeating what Howard Stern said in the press today (that Imus should have done).

I will agree that Imus has played this whole thing out badly. Learn some lessons from us in Hollywood: shut up, hire spin doctors, publicists and lawyers and immediately dissapper for awhile. He's done the WORST job I've ever seen of trying to get out of this. It will go down in history as the way NOT to do things. And he was still doing it today, apologizing too much and challenging Rev. Al Sharpton on the Today show. JUST PLAIN STUPID. IMUS is an idiot.

 

[LinoNYC]

"And one of the women on the Rutgers basketball team said she has been scared for life because of this."

Do you mean scarred?

Please, what gets said today both in black music and face-to-face is far worse than anything that Imus or any of the others on these mouth-breather shows could get away with.

Howard stern's quotes were far more vicious and personal than this.

Be it "scarred" or "scared" it probably came with lawyer-inspired dreams of a fat check from NBC corporate or Imus.

Imus' remarks were doubly wrong because he picked on "civilians" instead of Pols or media types. The firestorm over this is more the result of a slow news cycle and important spring ratings period.

-Lino

 

[Knowsnews2]

If the nappy haired ho comment had been part of a long diatribe, or part of some hate filled monologue, then, yes it would have been racist.

It was a joke that was not funny. Part of a 10 minute sports segment. Why doesn't anyone mention that he also complimented the Tennessee women, who are predominately black? You mean he was racist when he was talking about the Rutgers players, then, suddenly, decided the black women on UT were ok?? Context is important, and it's been lost here.

The people who are making so much of this are more of a problem than Don Imus, people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Don Imus is far from racist, because he attacks all people equally, regardless of race. But the Reverend Al and the others will stand silent when a black man makes a racist comment, but search out the spotlight when they can denounce a white man.

 

[talkjim]

Don Imus is far from racist, because he attacks all people equally, regardless of race.

Oh really? When was the last time he did a "white" joke? And by the way, I'm a white guy asking that question. And I'm not talking about a joke about a white person--I'm talking about a joke that includes racial stereotypes, as he did in the now-infamous Rutgers incident. What he does is attack minority group members, and by the way he doesn't do that equally. Blacks are by far his most frequent target.


But the Reverend Al and the others will stand silent when a black man makes a racist comment, but search out the spotlight when they can denounce a white man.

Wrong again. Al Sharpton has led a continuing campaign against gangsta rap, and its racist stereotypes, in the black community. You may not be aware of it, but that doesn't mean it isnt going on.

 

[radiolover78]

Yes, what he said was sexist and racist against POWERLESS INNOCENT women of color. And one of the women on the Rutgers basketball team said she has been scared for life because of this. You need racial sensitivity training BADLY.

Why would you call these women 'powerless'? They're the ones who have the power and respect now. It's sad how badly this has affected the team, but it wasn't Imus' INTENT to hurt these women. It was a quick, bad joke.


I will agree that Imus has played this whole thing out badly. Learn some lessons from us in Hollywood: shut up, hire spin doctors, publicists and lawyers and immediately dissapper for awhile. He's done the WORST job I've ever seen of trying to get out of this. It will go down in history as the way NOT to do things. And he was still doing it today, apologizing too much and challenging Rev. Al Sharpton on the Today show. JUST PLAIN STUPID. IMUS is an idiot.
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No matter what, you'd be annoyed with Imus. You would probably be the type who says, 'why doesn't he come out and apologize like a man?' or something to that extent. Imus has apologized and he had the guts to go on Al Sharpton's show. He didn't have to do that.

 

[barnaby_wilde]

I agree that Mr. Imus' remarks were reprehensible, vile, rude, crude, socially unacceptable, and indefensable. He owes every player, parent, and coach of the Lady Rutgers basketball a full and honest apology. However, I do not believe that he owes Revs. Jackson and Sharpton, or me a thing. If anything, those gentlemen whose self-professed first alliegence is to Jesus Christ, should take a page from His life. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive our sins. As Christians, we should do no less than forgive.

If Mr. Imus' confession and repentance is insincere, the Lord doesn't need Revs. Jackson and Sharpton or us to help determine punishment. Rev. Sharpton stated that he deplores similar degrading language of gangsta rap artists, yet he has not been nearly so outspoken on that matter. Has he demanded that their record companies refuse to record gangsta rap or fire any and everyone on radio who play such music?

I don't listen to Imus or Sharpton. It really matters not to me whether either stay or go on the airwaves. What bothers me is that Rev. Sharpton has tried to take a very bad situation and extrapolate it to include totally unrelated issues under the same umbrella, with a little bit of shameless self-promotion added. If a white guy wrecked a taxi, I guess he would demand more black cab drivers.

I hope that the Lady Rutgers coach and team will focus on the statements made by Mr. Imus and his personal remarks to them and keep the dignity that they have so far exemplified during this mess. For, ladies I am on your side so far.


However, if Revs. Jackson and Sharpton are so certain that humankind must punish Mr. Imus for his wrongdoings, I would respectfully request that they ask the Lord for the permission to cast the first stone.

 

[raydofan]

If the nappy haired ho comment had been part of a long diatribe, or part of some hate filled monologue, then, yes it would have been racist.

heh, heh-read this:

http://www.onthemedia.org/yore/transcripts/transcripts_081801_imus.html

It was a joke that was not funny. Part of a 10 minute sports segment. Why doesn't anyone mention that he also complimented the Tennessee women, who are predominately black? You mean he was racist when he was talking about the Rutgers players, then, suddenly, decided the black women on UT were ok?? Context is important, and it's been lost here.

No, it hasn't. Perhaps some people lack a certain subtlety of mind...so 'nappy hair' is OK if followed by 'some of my best friends are...'?

The people who are making so much of this are more of a problem than Don Imus, people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Don Imus is far from racist, because he attacks all people equally, regardless of race. But the Reverend Al and the others will stand silent when a black man makes a racist comment, but search out the spotlight when they can denounce a white man.

Well, actually going to these self-appointed 'anointers' of the black community to beseech forgiveness proves that he IS a racist, plain and simple. If he is without guilt, he would have called them out for their past transgressions, rather than going and kissing Sharpton's feet, He knows his past (see above), accounts about his behaviour at NBC also abound. Don Imus is due to retire anyway, and we'll see after this 'suspension' where his barely intelligible mouth lands if not back at the Ranch on CBS.

And, for the record, these 'voices of the black community' are opportunists who can sniff out money at the drop of a hat. It ain't necessarily black, but GREEN. Frankly, I don't think they care so much about 'the community' as they do about capital. And with that, they join some of the better white politicos rabble-rousing for a buck.

 

[raydofan]

...you're repeating what Howard Stern said in the press today (that Imus should have done).

For the record, that statement is an out-of-context quote of an ACTUAL LONG DIATRIBE by Stern about Imus. He was not defending Imus, but he was giving an idea of what he would do in that situation.

 

[mostb1]

Yes, what he said was sexist and racist against POWERLESS INNOCENT women of color. And one of the women on the Rutgers basketball team said she has been scared for life because of this. You need racial sensitivity training BADLY.

Why would you call these women 'powerless'? They're the ones who have the power and respect now. It's sad how badly this has affected the team, but it wasn't Imus' INTENT to hurt these women. It was a quick, bad joke.


I will agree that Imus has played this whole thing out badly. Learn some lessons from us in Hollywood: shut up, hire spin doctors, publicists and lawyers and immediately dissapper for awhile. He's done the WORST job I've ever seen of trying to get out of this. It will go down in history as the way NOT to do things. And he was still doing it today, apologizing too much and challenging Rev. Al Sharpton on the Today show. JUST PLAIN STUPID. IMUS is an idiot.

No matter what, you'd be annoyed with Imus. You would probably be the type who says, 'why doesn't he come out and apologize like a man?' or something to that extent. Imus has apologized and he had the guts to go on Al Sharpton's show. He didn't have to do that.
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Get out of the clouds. These women had NO POWER when Imus made the remark. It was his INTENT to hurt them. This joke was expanded on. Not just made once. He hurt ALL women of color with his racist, sexist remark.

Imus apology was not that he is sorry what he did and has been doing. It's that he got caught at it. And now his career and show will change FOREVER.

Attacks on me mean nothing. It's silly on your part. Stick to the subject at hand.

 

[Anyacat]

The Rutger's Women's basketball team won.
Imus' comments did not negate that victory.
The basketball team was not suppose to win.
Imus's comments did not change that upset.
According to reports, the women who play on the team maintain respectable grade averages.
Imus' comments did not in any way change their grades.

A woman at Rutger's who claims that she has been scared for life by something said by a radio host is either incredibly thin skinned, or has an ego so fragile that it can be harmed by the remarks of a total stranger or has been coached to assume the role of victim, which she most certainly is not.

The team was not effected, nor was it victimized, until it was told so by, surprise, surprise, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

 

[mostb1]

The Rutger's Women's basketball team won.
Imus' comments did not negate that victory.
The basketball team was not suppose to win.
Imus's comments did not change that upset.
According to reports, the women who play on the team maintain respectable grade averages.
Imus' comments did not in any way change their grades.

A woman at Rutger's who claims that she has been scared for life by something said by a radio host is either incredibly thin skinned, or has an ego so fragile that it can be harmed by the remarks of a total stranger or has been coached to assume the role of victim, which she most certainly is not.

The team was not effected, nor was it victimized, until it was told so by, surprise, surprise, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

The team was harmed. One of the players publicly said she was scarred for life yesterday. The rest of the team and faculty that have spoken have said it has deeply hurt them. For the coach, it brought back a racist remark that affected her for life.

Al Sharpton nor Jesse Jackson, at least through yesterday morning, had not spoken with ANYONE on the Rutgers team (per the team news conference). It was the Black Journalists Association, some bloggers and the New York Times that got this story out NOT Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. Please get your facts correct.

 

[radiolover78]

You need to get your facts correct too.

It was not Imus' intent to hurt the feelings of the Rutgers team. He was joking. It doesn't excuse what he said, but he is not a racist nor is he a bigot.

At least give him credit for being willing to directly talk to Al Sharpton and the Rutgers team. He is at least trying to heal an open wound he unintentionally created.

 

[jvparent]

If you must judge, then judge Don Imus on not just what he's done on the air, but his work for charities and philanthropic organizations of almost every sort. Sure, it was facilitated by his radio career -- but people who've made more money in this line of work have surely done fewer good deeds with it.

If you must brand Imus sexist or racist, then you must also lump a lot of other people into those categories -- people who use hurtful words or slang expressions in ANY context. And yes -- I mean radio hosts, rap artists, athletes -- we could make a long list.

The national dialog should not be about Don Imus -- it should be about the impact of three little words. Everyone -- myself included -- has said or done something in jest that unintentionally hurt another person. Learning from it and advocating for change is how we heal the damage.

If all this controversy doesn't lead to a greater understanding of words, their use and their impact, then this entire debate is a waste of time. Let Imus do his penance, let's all take the lesson...and get on with life.

 

[Anyacat]

The Rutger's Women's basketball team won.
Imus' comments did not negate that victory.
The basketball team was not suppose to win.
Imus's comments did not change that upset.
According to reports, the women who play on the team maintain respectable grade averages.
Imus' comments did not in any way change their grades.

A woman at Rutger's who claims that she has been scared for life by something said by a radio host is either incredibly thin skinned, or has an ego so fragile that it can be harmed by the remarks of a total stranger or has been coached to assume the role of victim, which she most certainly is not.

The team was not effected, nor was it victimized, until it was told so by, surprise, surprise, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

The team was harmed. One of the players publicly said she was scarred for life yesterday. The rest of the team and faculty that have spoken have said it has deeply hurt them. For the coach, it brought back a racist remark that affected her for life.

Al Sharpton nor Jesse Jackson, at least through yesterday morning, had not spoken with ANYONE on the Rutgers team (per the team news conference). It was the Black Journalists Association, some bloggers and the New York Times that got this story out NOT Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. Please get your facts correct.

Imus' comments a stupid and ill-conceived as they are are no worse than anything said about African-American women in a rap song. Had Chris Rock made those comments, no one would have cared. And nowhere did I say that Jackson or Sharpton got the story out--what I said, and what I mean is that no one has profited from this more than Jackson and Sharpton and I suppose I should go on to add that I do not mean in cold hard cash). Jackson and Sharpton have not spoken to anyone but they have made themselves very clear. These women, instead of enjoying their victory, must now feel shame and degradation, because victimhood is what keeps Jackson and Sharpton in the news.

I repeat, Imus is a jerk, his comments were stupid, had Chris Rock said the same thing no one would have cared--but, the victory remains as does the ability of the Rutgers team to place itself above such nonsense and celebrate or to buy into the crap that they are victims instead of victors.

 

[TowerBuzz]

You need to get your facts correct too.

It was not Imus' intent to hurt the feelings of the Rutgers team. He was joking. It doesn't excuse what he said, but he is not a racist nor is he a bigot.

At least give him credit for being willing to directly talk to Al Sharpton and the Rutgers team. He is at least trying to heal an open wound he unintentionally created.

Dude you dont get it. It doesnt matter if it was not his intention to hurt the feelings of th Rutgers team, the point it; HE DID. Sorry that logic gets in teh way of yoru argument but the whole "it was only a joke" argument is wearing really thin. He blew it, period and the problem is that if it were just a one time thing he probably would get off the hook. But it's not, as Ive said behind the scenes to all who have ever worked with him, his feelings are known, he's a bigot, he's an old man from the old school, doesnt that say enough?. Again I dont care if he's a bigot, that is entirely his choice, his life, but he brought it on the air and shot himself in the foot. Heal the wound? DOn Imus wants to save his own ass and career as anyone in this position would. I dont falut him for that at all but please save the sob story about how poor Imus isnt bgetting credit for trying to make things right, he was the one at fault,......the least he could do is to try to apologize and explain. Do you think that CBS isnt pushing him to try to apologize to the Rtgers team? he's a cottage industry that they have a lot of money tied to, in both revenue and image. Imus doing all this soul searching has more to do with harsh economic reality than his wounded spirit, I honestly belive that. And that is not to say I think he's an evil man, I just think he's an old man from another America that he is unhappy that no longer exists.

He blew it, it is NOBODY ELSES FAULT< NOBODY. Grow up! You gotta be a man and take the consequences of your actions on air no matter who yo are.

 

[radiosaur]

This has changed from entertaining to tiring.

Just how weak-kneed are these college players and some of you on this board? So some idiot disk jockey called someone a bad name. Get over it. There’s a saying that if you let somebody upset you then they control you. That’s exactly right. Imus is one person with a radio show. What do you care what he says or thinks? I think he’s an idiot and have for a while, but my response is to turn off his show and move on.

The Rutgers team has allowed – ALLOWED – this non-story to ruin their accomplishments by buying into the hype. One apparently says she is ‘scarred for life”.

Are you kidding me? That’s all it takes to scar you for life? If that’s true, ma'am, you need to find a good shrink or a plastic bubble to live in. How can a team full of such fragile folks ever win a competitive sport? I think I’m embarrassed for the UT team for getting beaten by this team.

Mostlyb1, you’ve been online every time I’ve looked blathering about racial sensitivity and how Imus should be drawn and quartered. You’ve posted on every board you can find.

How do you possibly survive in your daily life? I can imagine you stepping off a curb and being yelled at by a cabbie, then collapsing in a sobbing heap on the sidewalk because you were offended. I’ve been called a lot of things in my life, just like everyone else. Never has bothered me, especially if it’s someone I don’t know. This hypersensitivity is amazing.

Tell me, are you also going to rant against all the racist lyrics in Rap, comics and entertainers of other races who commonly make comments about whites, Asians, and Hispanics?

If nothing else, this has been entertaining watching those of you with common sense try to reason with those without. If the marketplace determines Imus should go by his listeners leaving, so be it. But for now, he shouldn’t have to apologize to every street lamp. Enough is enough.

 

[mostb1]

This has changed from entertaining to tiring.

Just how weak-kneed are these college players and some of you on this board? So some idiot disk jockey called someone a bad name. Get over it. There’s a saying that if you let somebody upset you then they control you. That’s exactly right. Imus is one person with a radio show. What do you care what he says or thinks? I think he’s an idiot and have for a while, but my response is to turn off his show and move on.

The Rutgers team has allowed – ALLOWED – this non-story to ruin their accomplishments by buying into the hype. One apparently says she is ‘scarred for life”.

Are you kidding me? That’s all it takes to scar you for life? If that’s true, ma'am, you need to find a good shrink or a plastic bubble to live in. How can a team full of such fragile folks ever win a competitive sport? I think I’m embarrassed for the UT team for getting beaten by this team.

Mostlyb1, you’ve been online every time I’ve looked blathering about racial sensitivity and how Imus should be drawn and quartered. You’ve posted on every board you can find.

How do you possibly survive in your daily life? I can imagine you stepping off a curb and being yelled at by a cabbie, then collapsing in a sobbing heap on the sidewalk because you were offended. I’ve been called a lot of things in my life, just like everyone else. Never has bothered me, especially if it’s someone I don’t know. This hypersensitivity is amazing.

Tell me, are you also going to rant against all the racist lyrics in Rap, comics and entertainers of other races who commonly make comments about whites, Asians, and Hispanics?

If nothing else, this has been entertaining watching those of you with common sense try to reason with those without. If the marketplace determines Imus should go by his listeners leaving, so be it. But for now, he shouldn’t have to apologize to every street lamp. Enough is enough.

From Entertaining to Tiring? A discussion about a racist remark, a pattern of racism and RACISM in America in general?

The saddest and silliest post I've seen on this, period. You really need to get a grip on life and understand racism.

A discussion is already going on about rap lyrics. And, as I've said if you've been reading my posts which you appear to be, the only good thing that might come about because of this is a national discussion on racism in America. And that includes song lyrics. But right now, Imus is the one who is in the hot seat. And that isn't going to change until CBS Radio and NBC FIRE HIM.

This isn't about me. it's about Imus and racism so stop trying to "change the subject". And for the record, can you point out EVERY BOARD I've posted on as you claim? You'll be able to list two, New York City, his home market and National TV. Makes your comments look all the more silly.

 

[MarcR]

Wrong again. Al Sharpton has led a continuing campaign against gangsta rap, and its racist stereotypes, in the black community. You may not be aware of it, but that doesn't mean it isnt going on.

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Reverend Al has indeed spoken out against the misogynistic and violent lyrics that permeate most rap songs today, but I don't recall he and his minions ever protesting outside the studios of either Hot 97 or Power 105 for playing such vile trash.

 

[radiosaur]

From Entertaining to Tiring? A discussion about a racist remark, a pattern of racism and RACISM in America in general?

The saddest and silliest post I've seen on this, period. You really need to get a grip on life and understand racism.

A discussion is already going on about rap lyrics. And, as I've said if you've been reading my posts which you appear to be, the only good thing that might come about because of this is a national discussion on racism in America. And that includes song lyrics. But right now, Imus is the one who is in the hot seat. And that isn't going to change until CBS Radio and NBC FIRE HIM.

This isn't about me. it's about Imus and racism so stop trying to "change the subject". And for the record, can you point out EVERY BOARD I've posted on as you claim? You'll be able to list two, New York City, his home market and National TV. Makes your comments look all the more silly.

Yes, it's tiring, and you have certainly opened up a national dialog about this, at least on this board. Unfortunately, it lets everyone see how ultra senstive and rabid you are...and frankly, it's done more harm to your cause than good, regardless of what happens to Imus.