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Oh yeah, I caught it. He probably would have apologized on the JC show, if he could have. I won't miss Imus a bit. Maybe he can come back with a "Not ready to make nice" song and win a grammy?
By the way, anyone catch how Birdman's post got edited? I think the word IRONY just imploded itself.
CFKane
Oh yeah, I caught it. He probably would have apologized on the JC show, if he could have. I won't miss Imus a bit. Maybe he can come back with a "Not ready to make nice" song and win a grammy?
By the way, anyone catch how Birdman's post got edited? I think the word IRONY just imploded itself.
CFKane
Charles Foster Kane said:
No,no,no,no...
They are as much at fault for the MEDIA FRENZY...you're misunderstanding me. No, it's not thier fault for being called that. They did nothing to deserve it....but that's not my point.
By Rutgers responding, I think they: (A) did themselves a disservice by refocusing the attention from thier accomplishments to Imus, and (B) legitimizing Imus' remarks. If they felt a response was in order, that's thier right, but I think it was the wrong call or at least handled VERY poorly. Imus did no better in his handling of it all, either.
Let's say you are right and they should have responded... wouldn't the better thing been to have called Imus's people, got booked on the show, and told him "Ya know, we didn't appreciate that", let him apologize (or not apologize and make an even bigger ass of himself), and talked some B-ball? They might have even gotten thier point across to him on live national TV.
On another note, It's cool that no one's offended here or doing the holier than thou thing... It's a civil discussion, unlike the other stuff going on out there, and THAT's what negative about all this. It didn't help a thing, even now that Imus is completely and utterly canned. If anything, the divide got wider. How is that a good thing?
I even caught BookerT's sarcasm, even though he's going to burn in Hell ;D
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Tenn Radio Boy
Guest
Now that Imus got his head chopped off for some really inappropriate remarks, let's start a movement to get rid of the inappropriate comments on hip hop and rap.
Who is going to clean this up? Sharpton said he was "looking into that" whatever that means.
The I-Man will be on XM or Sirius soon.
Would you let your daughters listen to Hot? For any reason? The lyrics are disgusting and distasteful and particularly offensive to women, whatever the color.
Who is going to clean this up? Sharpton said he was "looking into that" whatever that means.
The I-Man will be on XM or Sirius soon.
Would you let your daughters listen to Hot? For any reason? The lyrics are disgusting and distasteful and particularly offensive to women, whatever the color.
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lash
Guest
You are right on regarding the lyrics of rap and hip hop music. I believe the Imus firing will push a move towards more regulation. And its a shame. In the meantime, comedians like Chris Rock and others who use the same words against African Americans should also be banned from cable channels, movies etc. Rock has even apologized about the content of his own comedy. His apology was enough I guess??
Where does it end if open Pandora's Box?
Where does it end if open Pandora's Box?
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FMSales
Guest
Poor 990 KWAM has to find a new morning show less than two weeks after they started carrying Imus. 
Me thinks the Rusky's got it right.....
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/13-04-2007/89728-Don_Imus-0
makes about as much sense as most of the other rants.....
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/13-04-2007/89728-Don_Imus-0
makes about as much sense as most of the other rants.....
K
Keef59
Guest
Imus ''sucked'' yet billed 15 million a year for the radio show. His ''nappy headed ho's'' comment was certainly excessive. But how can the African - American community ask for tolerance and acceptance when they regularly use ''ho'' and the ''n'' word when talking to each other? And in music? A white man says ''ho'' and he loses his big, fat paying radio job. Snoop Dogg says ''ho'' and sells a zillion copies of the cd. Some s*@! just doesn't make much sense in this world. It's okay to have Black Entertainment Television. But what if somebody tried to launch White Entertainment Television? Can you imagine the uproar? Racism, in any form, from any group, only inspires more racism, separatism, and resentment. If corporate America (CBS) is going to stone Imus for his commentary, then it (Capitol Records) needs also to disavow racism from ALL corners, including the African - American community.
Imus ''sucked'' yet billed 15 million a year for the radio show.
If Imus indeed billed 15 million, being the sad hack he was, it makes me wonder how much they could have been billing since 1986, had 66 been smart enough to toss him then. 15 million isn't that huge in New York, anyhow. It might be considerable for an AM sports outlet, however.
His ''nappy headed ho's'' comment was certainly excessive
And apparently racist, sexist, and without merit, considering who he said it about, without provocation...
But how can the African - American community ask for tolerance and acceptance when they regularly use ''ho'' and the ''n'' word when talking to each other?
A bit of a generalization, don't you think? Do you really believe the ENTIRE African-American community speaks that way? I know quite a few folks that would take issue with that statement, and fight against that very stereotype.
A white man says ''ho'' and he loses his big, fat paying radio job. Snoop Dogg says ''ho'' and sells a zillion copies of the cd.
Not always the case. Steve Carelle (sp?) said "ho" in "40 year old virgin", and "Rollin' wit Bob Saget", (very funny Jamie Kennedy music video.) or "Malibu's most wanted", can show how at least some comedians can do it, and be as white as wonder bread.
The difference here, is Imus didn't have parody in mind, at all. His motives, were not nearly as humorous, it seems. It also doesn't help that Imus ceased to be funny sometime in the early 1980's. Him calling his detractors "b*stards" in his supposed apology phase, probably didn't help, either.
Snoop Dogg, however wrong it truly is, in all aspects, is "going where the food is", for him. It really is that simple. When the records stop selling with those words in it, he'll change his tune. He knows how to play whatever game makes him money, see "Starsky & Hutch" for example. He's no monument to morality, but neither are some of his detractors, like say, Bill O'Reilly. Rap is big business, and so is speaking out against it, which is why, folks like snoop and O'Reilly will dry their eyes with 100 dollar bills for months to come. That's where the food is. It's not right, but it is, what it is.
If corporate America (CBS) is going to stone Imus for his commentary, then it (Capitol Records) needs also to disavow racism from ALL corners, including the African - American community.
So Capitol records will single handedly change people's minds? That's really what it will take to fix this. When the public starts buy gazillions of singles like Bobby Womack's "Across 110th street" and less of the "Gin & Juice", will real change happen because of the record industry.
If Capitol Records, or anyone can accomplish that, we'll be better off. Ultimately "Corporate America" is difficult to hold accountable. They are simply going "where the food is". They cannot solve the very problem they had a hand in. They'll never know how, until there is money in it. Money is truly the root of all evil, isn't it? Sure seems that way. And when folks like Sharpton can gain influence, money, and power, by increasing the "victim" mentality, they are feeding the much larger problem, too.
Imus, and his stupid comments, never really hurt anyone, other than himself, and the credibility of those who gave him a microphone. It's when comments like that, and "black cable channels" become something other than talking points, for those who make money spreading the separatism, that's when we'll see the real resolve.
When we ALL stop seeing each other as "White" and "Black", we can end some of the racism. This utopia has yet to surface. CFKane
If Imus indeed billed 15 million, being the sad hack he was, it makes me wonder how much they could have been billing since 1986, had 66 been smart enough to toss him then. 15 million isn't that huge in New York, anyhow. It might be considerable for an AM sports outlet, however.
His ''nappy headed ho's'' comment was certainly excessive
And apparently racist, sexist, and without merit, considering who he said it about, without provocation...
But how can the African - American community ask for tolerance and acceptance when they regularly use ''ho'' and the ''n'' word when talking to each other?
A bit of a generalization, don't you think? Do you really believe the ENTIRE African-American community speaks that way? I know quite a few folks that would take issue with that statement, and fight against that very stereotype.
A white man says ''ho'' and he loses his big, fat paying radio job. Snoop Dogg says ''ho'' and sells a zillion copies of the cd.
Not always the case. Steve Carelle (sp?) said "ho" in "40 year old virgin", and "Rollin' wit Bob Saget", (very funny Jamie Kennedy music video.) or "Malibu's most wanted", can show how at least some comedians can do it, and be as white as wonder bread.
The difference here, is Imus didn't have parody in mind, at all. His motives, were not nearly as humorous, it seems. It also doesn't help that Imus ceased to be funny sometime in the early 1980's. Him calling his detractors "b*stards" in his supposed apology phase, probably didn't help, either.
Snoop Dogg, however wrong it truly is, in all aspects, is "going where the food is", for him. It really is that simple. When the records stop selling with those words in it, he'll change his tune. He knows how to play whatever game makes him money, see "Starsky & Hutch" for example. He's no monument to morality, but neither are some of his detractors, like say, Bill O'Reilly. Rap is big business, and so is speaking out against it, which is why, folks like snoop and O'Reilly will dry their eyes with 100 dollar bills for months to come. That's where the food is. It's not right, but it is, what it is.
If corporate America (CBS) is going to stone Imus for his commentary, then it (Capitol Records) needs also to disavow racism from ALL corners, including the African - American community.
So Capitol records will single handedly change people's minds? That's really what it will take to fix this. When the public starts buy gazillions of singles like Bobby Womack's "Across 110th street" and less of the "Gin & Juice", will real change happen because of the record industry.
If Capitol Records, or anyone can accomplish that, we'll be better off. Ultimately "Corporate America" is difficult to hold accountable. They are simply going "where the food is". They cannot solve the very problem they had a hand in. They'll never know how, until there is money in it. Money is truly the root of all evil, isn't it? Sure seems that way. And when folks like Sharpton can gain influence, money, and power, by increasing the "victim" mentality, they are feeding the much larger problem, too.
Imus, and his stupid comments, never really hurt anyone, other than himself, and the credibility of those who gave him a microphone. It's when comments like that, and "black cable channels" become something other than talking points, for those who make money spreading the separatism, that's when we'll see the real resolve.
When we ALL stop seeing each other as "White" and "Black", we can end some of the racism. This utopia has yet to surface. CFKane
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AllHart
Guest
Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson need lessons in tact and proper communications. Ooops! Did I offend them? Both are some of the most opportunistic people I've even witnessed.
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littlebigradio
Guest
The firing of Don Imus is a blow to the radio industry and artistic freedom......and all because two race baiters, Rev Al and Rev Jessie fanned the fire with their tired rhetoric and caught a foothold in the mainstream of society who, by and large, had no idea who Don Imus was or knew the genre of show that he hosted. Talk about your scapegoats.....
the I-man has been hung out to dry big time. I'm hoping he'll return soon on XM or Sirius and will make it his mission to expose Sharpton and Jackson for the frauds that they truly are.
the I-man has been hung out to dry big time. I'm hoping he'll return soon on XM or Sirius and will make it his mission to expose Sharpton and Jackson for the frauds that they truly are.
There's an article in the WSJ online edition in which the author claims the George Soros machine geared up to get Imus, and that the media was not paying attention to the story until Soros crew started an e-mail and fax campaign. The story is that they hated Imus even though he was fairly liberal just because he let conservative guests on his show.
Not saying I beleive one way or the other, just pointing out the article....but even if it's true he sure made it easy.
Not saying I beleive one way or the other, just pointing out the article....but even if it's true he sure made it easy.
The WSJ story is crap.
Look, we all KNOW that he was sacked for a pattern of behavior that had happened for years, and that culminated when the American people put faces to the insult after the Rutgers presser. had he said that about a political figure, he would have gotten away with it.
People looked at these innocent young women who had achieved so much and recoiled in horror. unfortunately for Imus, so did the advertisers, and he is gone, or at least until after the Xm/Sirius merger is done and they can hire him.
he screwed up, he got what was coming to him, and that's that. Since he adn't really been that funny for several years, maybe it will give him time to come up with new material.
Look, we all KNOW that he was sacked for a pattern of behavior that had happened for years, and that culminated when the American people put faces to the insult after the Rutgers presser. had he said that about a political figure, he would have gotten away with it.
People looked at these innocent young women who had achieved so much and recoiled in horror. unfortunately for Imus, so did the advertisers, and he is gone, or at least until after the Xm/Sirius merger is done and they can hire him.
he screwed up, he got what was coming to him, and that's that. Since he adn't really been that funny for several years, maybe it will give him time to come up with new material.
> The fact that Rev. Al is calling for the FCC to regulate speech is indeed chilling...
... and clearly violative of the 1st Amendment. I won't discuss this too much further, as I did several posts back; but remember, the Supreme Court has made clear that content-based regulations must be "narrowly tailored to serve a compelling state interest" (that's "strict scrutiny" for the legal fans in the audience). For the FCC to stick its nose into this won't satisfy that standard. The 1st Amendment was FIRST for a reason.
That being said, I find it simply odd that a talk show host -- as Rev. Sharpton is -- would advocate government regulation of talk show hosts. Freedom of speech is his stock-and-trade, just as it is for Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and even Imus. Should the FCC get into the business of regulating the merely offensive or provocative, Rev. Sharpton may find himself on the wrong end of a Commission action.
But, what do I know, Hmmmm?
DE
... and clearly violative of the 1st Amendment. I won't discuss this too much further, as I did several posts back; but remember, the Supreme Court has made clear that content-based regulations must be "narrowly tailored to serve a compelling state interest" (that's "strict scrutiny" for the legal fans in the audience). For the FCC to stick its nose into this won't satisfy that standard. The 1st Amendment was FIRST for a reason.
That being said, I find it simply odd that a talk show host -- as Rev. Sharpton is -- would advocate government regulation of talk show hosts. Freedom of speech is his stock-and-trade, just as it is for Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and even Imus. Should the FCC get into the business of regulating the merely offensive or provocative, Rev. Sharpton may find himself on the wrong end of a Commission action.
But, what do I know, Hmmmm?
DE
You know...
I am on the air right now, and read of the death of "The Hawaiian Elvis," Don Ho. May I discuss Mr. Ho without fear of an FCC inquiry?
Oh, one unrelated aside. I saw Al Green last night at the Cancer Society ball. OMG. 'Never seen him before. Defies description. One of the best live shows I have ever seen. What a Memphis treasure!
DE
I am on the air right now, and read of the death of "The Hawaiian Elvis," Don Ho. May I discuss Mr. Ho without fear of an FCC inquiry?
Oh, one unrelated aside. I saw Al Green last night at the Cancer Society ball. OMG. 'Never seen him before. Defies description. One of the best live shows I have ever seen. What a Memphis treasure!
DE
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