Independent stations carrying daytime game shows back then

[spencerkarter85]

i know some independent stations that carried network daytime game shows in the past in which the network affiliates (like ABC, CBS, and NBC) didn't clear. Here's some I know so far:

Greenville, SC (my market): Then-Indie WAXA 40 (now WMYA MY40) carried Super Password with the late Bert Convy in which WYFF 4 didn't clear because they broadcast NewsCenter4 at Noon during it's entire run on NBC from 1984-1989. Sadly that same year as SP ended, WAXA 40 went off the air permantely (until 1991 when ABC station WLOS 13 used WAXA as similcast station for SC portion of the market until 1995) because of financial problems and the loss of its owner Frank Outlaw, and the loss of the FOX affiliation a year earlier to current one WHNS 21. WAXA first broadcasted SP in it's network pattern at Noon, and later broadcasted on one day delay basis at 11:30am. Also another NBC game show that WYFF also didn't clear was Time Machine in 1985 hosted by John Davidson (who would later become host of the 1980s Hollywood Squares revival), and it broadcasted at 11:30am during it's run.
Atlanta, GA: NBC programs like The Who What and Where? Game and the Art Flemming version of Jeopardy! wasn't cleared by then-NBC station (now ABC) WSB 2 because they were broadcasting local news or other programs, and it ended up on Ted Turner's indie (and still is, now WPCH) WJRJ/WTCG 17.
Cincinnati, OH: Same story for Who What and Where? and the 1964-75 Jeopardy!, not cleared by WLWT 5 and picked up by an indie in the market instead by the call letters WXIX 19 (now FOX).
San Francisco, CA: During the 1980s KPIX (then owned by Group W, and now CBS O&O) pre-empted The Price is Right for People Are Talking, and TPIR was shown instead on KOFY 20 (then KTZO).
Washington, DC: I've heard on this forums that ABC station WMAL/WJLA 7 picked up TPIR which was pre-empted by CBS station WTOP/WDVM/WUSA in the 1970s and 1980s.
Philadelphia, PA: When Let's Make a Deal was on NBC from 1963-68, one of the indies carried it in place of then-NBC/Group W owned (now CBS O&O) KYW 3. Also during the post-WKBS era, indie (now FOX O&O) WTXF 29 (then WTAF) carried the final years of Richard Dawson's Family Feud in place of WPVI 6 (now ABC O&O) I've heard.

Do you know any indepdendents that carried daytime network game shows that the network affiliates didn't clear?

 

[cd637299]

All I remember is WCIX-6 Miami (now WTVJ & NBC) carrying "Who, What or Where Game" & its replacement "Blank Check" (both hosted by Art James) when WCKT 7 NBC (now WSVN & Fox) would not clear it.

It's possible that WCIX also carried "Jackpot" w/ Geoff Edwards, if it replaced "Blank Check" at 12:30 ET. I would have to see the archives. I think I saw "Jackpot" listed as on ch 6, but I know that ch 7 had it at the start, when it originally aired at noon.

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[harrisburgpatv]

Philadelphia, PA: When Let's Make a Deal was on NBC from 1963-68, one of the indies carried it in place of then-NBC/Group W owned (now CBS O&O) KYW 3. Also during the post-WKBS era, indie (now FOX O&O) WTXF 29 (then WTAF) carried the final years of Richard Dawson's Family Feud in place of WPVI 6 (now ABC O&O) I've heard.

Do you know any indepdendents that carried daytime network game shows that the network affiliates didn't clear?

I mentioned it in the other thread, but 29 only carried Feud for the summer of '83 in daytime. Come fall, it was gone.

 

[Mario500]

In the designated market area of Mobile, Alabama-Pensacola, Florida, WJTC-TV, the local independent station, used to broadcast "Card Sharks", "Family Feud", "The $25,000 Pyramid", and the network version of "Wheel of Fortune" from CBS due to WKRG-TV, the local CBS affiliate, broadcasting syndicated programs instead of network programming between 9:00 AM and 10:00 AM (Central time) Monday through Friday. Even though WKRG-TV did not broadcast the network version of "Card Sharks", they broadcast the syndicated version produced at the same time as the network version.

 

[anotherguyTN]

Even though WKRG-TV did not broadcast the network version of "Card Sharks", they broadcast the syndicated version produced at the same time as the network version.

That sounds weird. Did someone there like Bill Rafferty better than Bob Eubanks? I never really saw the syndicated version much except for reruns on GSN, but I think it had some extra features that the CBS version didn't have that might have been better.

 

[chris12]

Milwaukee's WVTV 18 picked up a ton form 1980-83 from NBC such as Blockbusters, Wheel Of Fortune, Battlestars, Hit Man, Sale Of The Century, Vegas Gambit. Then 24 picked up Mtach Game-Hollywood Squares Hour, Super Password and Wordplay for a spell and 58 aired CBS Family Feud and NBC ones like Scrabble 93 and Scattegories and Family Secrets.

Also, Seattle aired a ton from CBS and NBC on 13, most everything NBC and CBS had in the 9-10 hour and also I've seen 11 doing likewise in the 70s including the CBS Joker's Wild and early Price Is Right.

 

[anotherguyTN]

I wish that either WPTY 24 or WLMT 30 in Memphis could have carried all the NBC game shows that were pre-empted by WMC NBC 5. They carried almost nothing from NBC in the morning except Wheel of Fortune and possibly one other NBC show to fill out the hour in the 80's and early 90's, and it would have made a good AM line up for 24 or 30, but they didn't do that much if any.

 

[ShawnHill1]

Milwaukee's WVTV 18 picked up a ton form 1980-83 from NBC such as Blockbusters, Wheel Of Fortune, Battlestars, Hit Man, Sale Of The Century, Vegas Gambit. Then 24 picked up Mtach Game-Hollywood Squares Hour, Super Password and Wordplay for a spell and 58 aired CBS Family Feud and NBC ones like Scrabble 93 and Scattegories and Family Secrets.

Milwaukee, in particular WTMJ, were pretty notorious for not clearing network daytime game shows. WITI only bumped off an hour in the mornings (9am CT), usually for Phil Donahue, and WISN didn't pre-empt too many ABC daytime shows (probably just one--either one of the half-hour soaps). 12 aired All My Children on a day-delay at 11am for years, followed by the news at noon, and a syndicated half-hour program at 12:30.

 

[crainbebo]

Seattle

KSTW 11 cleared The Joker's Wild in the '70s when KIRO had different programs on.
KCPQ 13 had the 1980s run of Tattletales (3PM on KIRO was Hour Magazine) as well as Wheel of Fortune's daytime run (KING had Northwest Today) in the early 1980s. They also ran Ray Combs Family Feud in the early 1990s when KIRO passed it on for syndicated programs.

-crainbebo

 

[hipman2]

I remember XETV 6 carrying Match Game '74/'75 when the CBS affiliate KFMB ran the afternoon movie at 2:30 for a while. It also carried the last months of the first incarnation of Jeopardy! at noon from NBC in 1974.

Then-independent KTTY 69 (now KSWB a FOX affiliate) carried Sale of the Century, Blockbusters, and reruns of Family Ties from 9-10am in the 1986-87 season.

 

[Ultimajock]

Milwaukee's WVTV 18 picked up a ton form 1980-83 from NBC such as Blockbusters, Wheel Of Fortune, Battlestars, Hit Man, Sale Of The Century, Vegas Gambit. Then 24 picked up Mtach Game-Hollywood Squares Hour, Super Password and Wordplay for a spell and 58 aired CBS Family Feud and NBC ones like Scrabble 93 and Scattegories and Family Secrets.

Milwaukee, in particular WTMJ, were pretty notorious for not clearing network daytime game shows. WITI only bumped off an hour in the mornings (9am CT), usually for Phil Donahue, and WISN didn't pre-empt too many ABC daytime shows (probably just one--either one of the half-hour soaps). 12 aired All My Children on a day-delay at 11am for years, followed by the news at noon, and a syndicated half-hour program at 12:30.

...in December 1971, TV Guide listed WVTV carrying only two daytime network offerings, both ABC items (That Girl reruns and All My Children) that WITI passed on in order to carry the 90-minute version of The Mike Douglas Show and a Noon local newscast...

 

[Ultimajock]

Philadelphia, PA: When Let's Make a Deal was on NBC from 1963-68, one of the indies carried it in place of then-NBC/Group W owned (now CBS O&O) KYW 3. Also during the post-WKBS era, indie (now FOX O&O) WTXF 29 (then WTAF) carried the final years of Richard Dawson's Family Feud in place of WPVI 6 (now ABC O&O) I've heard.

Do you know any indepdendents that carried daytime network game shows that the network affiliates didn't clear?

I mentioned it in the other thread, but 29 only carried Feud for the summer of '83 in daytime. Come fall, it was gone.

...WKBS/48 also carried whatever version of The Pyramid (sometimes on a two- or three-day delay) that ABC ran but WPVI/6 passed on; considering Dick Clark's local prominence over Channel 6 in the '50s and '60s, that struck me as somewhat odd. In fact, wasn't it a WKBS delayed rebroadcast of The Pyramid or some other ABC daytime show that contained Frank Reynolds' first ABC News bulletin about the Three Mile Island nuke mishap? That made the wire services because it led some viewers in Philadelphia to panic in the belief that TMI had actually melted down completely a few days after the disaster actually occurred...

 

[harrisburgpatv]

I don't ever remember hearing anything about TMI, but you are right about WKBS. Starting in January '78, once the $20,000 Pyramid was moved ahead from its 2pm slot (to make room for the expansion of OLTL an GH to an hour each from 45 minutes), to noon, WPVI-6 no longer carried it (Action News at noon). It aired on I believe either a 1 or 2 week delay on WKBS-48 at 10am, followed by another ABC castoff, Edge of Night at 10:30. WKBS continued the Pyramid fun in 1981 for the short lived $50,000 Pyramid, oddly enough airing at noon.

WPVI, however, did carry the first syndicated Pyramid ($25,000 Pyramid) Monday nights at 7:30pm.

 

[Ultimajock]

...about WKBS rebroadcasting the Three Mile Island news a week after the fact: http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=179930.0 ...